Open 733: Grey Flag (Complete)

[the worst]

playing quiplash I promise I'll use full thoughts sentences l8r lol

[Quick]

I'm gonna refer back to Noir..... There's a fine line between a carried scumbuddy and obviously town.....

look I'll re-read and reconsider ofrhz but I'd put her at my strongest townread rn

IDK why you are talking about any Scum being carried at this point. Pretty much the opposite of what I was suggesting.

[the worst]

what were you suggesting then? Sounded to me like you were concerned about the fact she was universally townread

[Quick]

what were you suggesting then? Sounded to me like you were concerned about the fact she was universally townread

I wasn't "concerned" about them being TR. I just think they haven't really done a whole lot to impact the game and pretty much all their votes are naked sheep votes, essentially.

[ruru]

votecount

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Gosrir Elmer Odels (3):	Not_Mafia (319),	ofrhz (321),	the worst (322),
Quick (2):	ceejayvinoya (345),	Ircher (356),
Not_Mafia (1):	Gosrir Elmer Odels (377),
ofrhz (1):	Quick (389),
Not voting (1):	Skygazer,

(expired on 2018-08-02 00:00:00) remain.

[ofrhz]

ofrhz keeps saying I am Town but IIRC they are not really pushing anyone - at least not very hard. Their vote is on Gosir. I think it's pretty clear those two are not teamed. I have a Town Lean on Gosrir atm so don't really want to lynch there.

uhhhh i mean i did push saudade d1 but idk if i want that to be my claim to fame

[ofrhz]

I hacked her account and read her role pm. why is she not town?

Because their votes are bad and they aren't making any pushes.

Why are they Town?

how were my votes bad?

[ofrhz]

quick, why are you townleaning gosrir? you've been saying all game that gosrir has been pinging you.

[ofrhz]

Anyhow, I've "meta"-d NM, which means that I looked for a finished game of his in which he was scum, then a game before that in which he was town. Enter Open 808 & Open 725.

In the former he gets down to the nitty-gritty of the game, pieces of content after pieces of content.

In the

former

latter (?)

he's bouncy & intangible, the way I remember him from the two games I played with him previously. He's more like the former now, ie. more like when he was scum.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

....uh did we read the same game?

NM posted like no content in Micro 808 (NM's scumgame) until lylo that game. People complaining about his play:

Spoiler:

hmm, after reading through this thing again, I think the people we should put pressure on are definitely Jumble and Not Mafia. They seem to be adding very little to the game and we either need to get them involved or get rid of them; because they are either scum or going to hold the town back as I see it right now. So with that.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Not_Mafia, get in here and do something

useful

.

(from his scumpartner lol)(hey ircher is in this game too)

I wish I was in some other game where Not_Mafia actually shared thoughts concerning the game.

Yeah, I am really starting to lean more towards Not Mafia now that he is talking. He is avoiding giving reasons and examples for his reasoning and voting. I feel like he hopped onto Vulcan thinking Penguin would eventually hammer.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

This post was probably the most substantive post from NM pre-lylo

Not_Mafia, get in here and do something

useful

.

Microwave two bowls simultaneously by placing one on a cup

only slightly exaggerating here

Some towny posts for NM in this game:

Spoiler:

Why is ceejay town?

ok guys I had an idea
let's make this the shortest running of Grey Flag ever.

today we lynch {Quick, Gosrir}. they vengekill the other.

Nah Quick is town

He regularly actively refuses to play on games, in his mind he’s an unsung hero taking a noble stand against big bad Not_Mafia, that’s just how he is. Ridiculous =/= scum

oh shit, NM is explaining something, something he never did in Micro 808

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

@Loafers: People will complain about his play in every game, so that by itself means little. But my point isn't about him explaining things. I want to make this clear: I'm not trying to punish NM for playing good (or better.) I might be explaining it in the wrong way. My point is observing if NM's having only social interactions or in-game interactions as well.

In Normal 2016 (he was a mason) he quoted a book when asked about whether he can make long posts. This is a fine joke, but it has little consequence to the game itself. He told Garmr (his top scumread, communicated through a naked vote & maybe calling him scum with no further elaboration) that he'd vote his masonbuddy if Garmr did so (they hadn't claimed yet.) Garmr voted, NM voted, but even though it resulted in a vote, it's pretty clear it didn't bring anything substantial to the game. I could go into Open 725, but I'm less familiar with that game.

In Micro 808 (not Open, sorry, typo, I guess) there are plenty of instances of NM having in-game interactions. There's #128, #215, #292, #304, & I'm too lazy to list all of them. It's difficult to verbalise: he stays in contact, I guess, that could be a good term too.

[ceejayvinoya]

I'm still having a hard time understanding why you're scumreading NM. I don't get why that meta you're pointing out suggests he's scum this game.

[Ircher]

Still think Quick is a good lynch.

[Quick]

I hacked her account and read her role pm. why is she not town?

Because their votes are bad and they aren't making any pushes.

Why are they Town?

how were my votes bad?

Did I answer this?

[ofrhz]

Did I answer this?

if you think they're bad because i haven't made any pushes, i disagree like i said in 405

[ofrhz]

@gosrir, elaborate on some of your other scumreads?

[ofrhz]

Did I answer this?

if you think they're bad because i haven't made any pushes, i disagree like i said in 405

so yes, i do need you to elaborate further

[the worst]

Idk where to go next here.

[Quick]

Did I answer this?

if you think they're bad because i haven't made any pushes, i disagree like i said in 405

so yes, i do need you to elaborate further

K, here:

what were you suggesting then? Sounded to me like you were concerned about the fact she was universally townread

I wasn't "concerned" about them being TR. I just think they haven't really done a whole lot to impact the game and pretty much all their votes are naked sheep votes, essentially.

[Quick]

You can go ahead and combine my 417 with 395.

Now, who wants to actually analyze my case properly?

[ofrhz]

what were you suggesting then? Sounded to me like you were concerned about the fact she was universally townread

I wasn't "concerned" about them being TR. I just think they haven't really done a whole lot to impact the game and pretty much all their votes are naked sheep votes, essentially.

dude if you're just going to cherrypick posts that i voted in and not read anything else in my iso, then you're not going to walk away with an accurate read. like 389 was a bad post

[Quick]

what were you suggesting then? Sounded to me like you were concerned about the fact she was universally townread

I wasn't "concerned" about them being TR. I just think they haven't really done a whole lot to impact the game and pretty much all their votes are naked sheep votes, essentially.

dude if you're just going to cherrypick posts that i voted in and not read anything else in my iso, then you're not going to walk away with an accurate read. like 389 was a bad post

I can't believe you changed your avatar for this game. Hehehehehehehe.

[ceejayvinoya]

^darn. If I could vote Quick again, I would. I mean, there he goes debating with ofrhz seriously about how sus is ofrhz, and then Quick

suddenly answers with something that is not entirely related at all and says nothing else

.

[Quick]

Town is so going to lose this game.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: ceejay

[ruru]

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