NY 213 - Game Over!

[Ircher]

Day 4 VC #8

Dunnstral (6) - JarJarDrinks (4815), Creature (4817), PenguinPower (4819), Texcat (4829), Myloninja13 (4837), Gamma Emerald (4847)

Gamma Emerald (1) - Krazy (4859)
Tchill13 (1) - Ankamius (4756)
Texcat (3) - Dunnstral (4670), Scioness Sajj (4675), TehBrawlGuy (4710)

Scioness Sajj (6) - Golden Robster (4681), Skygazer (4717), Vaxkiller (4721), Wavemode (4854), Hopkirk (4857), Tchill13 (4863)

Not Voting (1) - Kublai Khan

Lynch Threshold

During day 4, it takes 10 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 4 ends on August 2, 2018 5:30 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-08-02 17:30:00).

Moderator Notes

If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
Golden Robster is V/LA until August 1.

You are expected to post at least once every 4 days.

Vaxkiller is V/LA until July 29.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Dunnstral: Texcat (4670)
Golden Robster: Scioness Sajj (4681)
Krazy: Texcat (4669) --> Gamma Emerald (4859)
Creature: Scioness Sajj (4665) --> Texcat (4745) --> Dunnstral (4817)
Hopkirk: Scioness Sajj (4672) --> (Null) (4848) --> Scioness Sajj (4857)
Gamma Emerald: Dunnstral (4847)
Tchill13: Scioness Sajj (4707) --> Dunnstral (4822) --> Scioness Sajj (4863)
Skygazer: Scioness Sajj (4717)
JarJarDrinks: Scioness Sajj (4674) --> Dunnstral (4815)
Ankamius: Tchill13 (4756)
Texcat: Dunnstral (4829)
TehBrawlGuy: Texcat (4710)
Vaxkiller: Scioness Sajj (4721)
Wavemode: Scioness Sajj (4854)
PenguinPower: Scioness Sajj (4713) --> Dunnstral (4819)
Myloninja13: Dunnstral (4837)
Scioness Sajj: Texcat (4675)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 3

* - Hammer vote
^ - Vote occurred after hammer

Dunnstral (2): Myloninja13 (3463) --> Texcat (4162)
Golden Robster (3): Dunnstral (3559) --> TehBrawlGuy (4208) --> Creature (4255)
Pine (0):
Krazy (3): Dunnstral (3978) --> Texcat (4161) --> Gamma Emerald (4392)
Creature (8): Texcat (3472) -->

Lalendra

(3681) --> Texcat (3744) --> Myloninja13 (4013) --> Texcat (4165) -->

Lalendra

(4213) --> Kublai Khan (4260) -->

Lalendra

(4284)
Kublai Khan (7): Creature (3511) -->

Lalendra

(4033) --> TehBrawlGuy (4184) --> Creature (4240) -->

Lalendra

(4308) --> Gamma Emerald (4416) -->

Lalendra

(4557)
Hopkirk (3):

Lalendra

(3661) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4339)
Gamma Emerald (3):

Lalendra

(3913) --> (Null) (3954) --> Myloninja13 (4073)

Ausuka

(4): Myloninja13 (3640) -->

Lalendra

(3677) --> Myloninja13 (4010) -->

Lalendra

(4286)

Lalendra

(3): TehBrawlGuy (3719) --> Myloninja13 (4130) --> Creature (4384)
Tchill13 (3):

Lalendra

(3690) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4215)
Frozen Angel (0):
Skygazer (1):

Lalendra

(4564)
JarJarDrinks (5): Creature (3616) --> (Null) (3694) -->

Lalendra

(3695) --> Dunnstral (3704) -->

Lalendra

(3721)
Ankamius (3):

Lalendra

(3801) --> (Null) (4044) --> Creature (4239)
Texcat (1): Myloninja13 (3637)
TehBrawlGuy (4): JarJarDrinks (3466) --> Texcat (3790) --> Creature (4245) --> Gamma Emerald (4421)
Vaxkiller (3): Kublai Khan (4004) --> Myloninja13 (4214) -->

Lalendra

(4220)
Wavemode (2): TehBrawlGuy (3468) -->

Lalendra

(3716) --> _{Ankamius (4600^)}
PenguinPower (3): Texcat (3473) --> Myloninja13 (3643) -->

Lalendra

(3678)
Myloninja13 (2): Dunnstral (3765) --> Creature (4252)
Scioness Sajj (3): Texcat (3756) --> Creature (4338) -->

Lalendra

(4577*)

Day 2

Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral (4): Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206) --> PenguinPower (3242) --> TehBrawlGuy (3248)
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) -->

WhemeStar

(2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2642) --> (Null) (2783) --> PenguinPower (2979) -->

WhemeStar

(3099) --> (Null) (3284) -->

WhemeStar

(3286)
Pine (1): Andriod18 (1936)
Creature (3): Myloninja13 (1941) --> PenguinPower (2835) -->

WhemeStar

(3453*)
Kublai Khan (5):

Flavor Leaf

(1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) --> PenguinPower (2899) -->

WhemeStar

(3027)

WhemeStar

(4): Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2542) --> PenguinPower (2930)
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) -->

WhemeStar

(3008)
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) --> PenguinPower (2990) -->

WhemeStar

(3318)

Ausuka

(7): PenguinPower (1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023) -->

WhemeStar

(3293)

Lalendra

(7): Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2657) --> (Null) (2705) --> PenguinPower (2809) -->

WhemeStar

(3097)
EspeciallyTheLies (1): PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2327) --> (Null) (2612) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) -->

WhemeStar

(3030)
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) -->

WhemeStar

(3062) --> (Null) (3118) -->

WhemeStar

(3165) --> (Null) (3196) -->

WhemeStar

(3233)
Vaxkiller (5):

WhemeStar

(2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) --> PenguinPower (3012) -->

WhemeStar

(3112) --> PenguinPower (3290)
Wavemode (6): Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2635) --> (Null) (2800) -->

WhemeStar

(2966) ==>

WhemeStar

(3115)
PenguinPower (7): Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) -->

WhemeStar

(2962)
Myloninja13 (1): PenguinPower (2437)
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 (2904) -->

WhemeStar

(3034) --> PenguinPower (3255)

Flavor Leaf

(5): JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) --> PenguinPower (2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) -->

WhemeStar

(2958)

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) -->

Lalendra

(1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> (Null) (1798)
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)

WhemeStar

(3):

Lalendra

(234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) -->

Flavor Leaf

(955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) -->

Lalendra

(279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) -->

Lalendra

(1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)

Lalendra

(3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)

Flavor Leaf

(1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[Golden Robster]

hi catching up

[Golden Robster]

Yes, I am still scum reading Mylo.

Looking at my wagon, I'm pretty sure either Krazy or Dunn is scum. I don't think both of them can be. I keep having my doubts about Creature, but I can't believe he's actually scum posting this much. I'm surprised by TBG. I thought he was more logical than to follow memes and cookies onto my wagon.

if you scumread mylo why aren't you voting him?

[Golden Robster]

TehBrawlGuy and because he has been awkward lately.

agree with this

[Golden Robster]

honestly out of all my SR's im the most sure about dunn. Dunn voting n the the competing wagon to sajj made me more sure of sajj scum. We can lynch dunn first then flip sajj though.

Dunn is scum. I'd like him lynched.

wait how are you getting these associations?

[Golden Robster]

Did GR actually replace or she just v/la?

v/la

am chilling

[Golden Robster]

4. Fumuki Golden Robster -- For such a smart player this slot has said a bunch of shit that makes no sense. Scum playing for endgame is my impression right now. The way he played up the wheme hammer also made my skin crawl, as did the unvote-vote like he was still thinking about it. The way that exchange went just reads fake to me.

why would scum!gr unvote and vote if she was bussing?

what have I said that doesn't make sense?

why does the exchange feel fake to you?

[Golden Robster]

On another note, Dunnwagon is abysmal and he's Town. Probably one of my strongest TRs, actually.

why tho

[Golden Robster]

OTOH, him not wanting to lynch Wheme on policy grounds after seeing me get raked for unvoting Wheme on policy grounds is very indicative of town!dunn. If he's Scum, he can just kill Wheme or wait the phase out, but actively coming in to take fire defending Wheme is dumb. I liked the way he responded to me after I questioned his vote on me as well.

I've found myself agreeing with him a lot over the last few days too - his view of the gamestate mirrors mine fairly well and I feel like I can follow his progression.

kind of understand what you're getting at from the first paragraph; tbg thinks scum bussed rather than defended (which is in line with his argument about JJD) but I disagree

wagon was being stalled/slowed and it probably dictates that the players who are hesitating or not voting/voting another wagon are mafia

I don't really see progression from dunn though?

[Golden Robster]

krazy has some good points about gamma
namely naked voting and sheeping other players and then voting some of my townreads without decent explanation (in line with sheeping others)

VOTE: myloninja
honestly all the actual content I've seen from him has been terrible
I'm done beating around the bush here

VOTE: Kublai Khan
I think this is a good case, and think that the points brought up are valid points.

[Golden Robster]

Or we can just flip dunn. Dont like u selling a gamma lynch as informational.

Rest if the case was actually ok but there's scummier people than gamma rn.

yeah I agree with this

[Golden Robster]

I think that the wagon in a vacuum has merit, but the people pushing it and the fact that it was running against Tex gives me a bad feeling. It's very similar to how I felt about Lala. I'd rather see a lynch elsewhere, although if it ends up being her v Dunn or someone else I TR, I at least don't hate her wagon.

hesitating

Why is scion wagon giving you bad vibes?

What makes it similar to how you felt about lala?

[Golden Robster]

these two wagons are fine and happy to swap between both of them if needed

[Skygazer]

Guys, texcat's progression onto dunn is pretty sus, he goes from townreading to suddenly scumreading for a single reason (4315), laid pretty low for most of his wagon, and then hopping on with the naked vote right when the Dunn wagon actually starts to pick up (4819) while his wagon is dying down.

VOTE: texcat

(Sorry for not really participating, I'm going to actively try to change that. I'm technically caught up but just feel so far behind and I kind of feel super out of my element considering I'm one of the newest people here and probably one of the worst scum hunters here. I'll actively work to change my activity levels)

[Golden Robster]

Guys, texcat's progression onto dunn is pretty sus, he goes from townreading to suddenly scumreading for a single reason (4315), laid pretty low for most of his wagon, and then hopping on with the naked vote right when the Dunn wagon actually starts to pick up (4819) while his wagon is dying down.

VOTE: texcat

(Sorry for not really participating, I'm going to actively try to change that. I'm technically caught up but just feel so far behind and I kind of feel super out of my element considering I'm one of the newest people here and probably one of the worst scum hunters here. I'll actively work to change my activity levels)

do you townread dunn then?

[Skygazer]

JJD's presence alone is making me very skeptical about it for some reason

Are you scumreadin jjd now?

It's more paranoia tbh

Considering you hopped on to the Dunn wagon when JJD was the only voter, is this paranoia gone or is your scumread on Dunn strong enough to overlook it?

[Skygazer]

Guys, texcat's progression onto dunn is pretty sus, he goes from townreading to suddenly scumreading for a single reason (4315), laid pretty low for most of his wagon, and then hopping on with the naked vote right when the Dunn wagon actually starts to pick up (4819) while his wagon is dying down.

VOTE: texcat

(Sorry for not really participating, I'm going to actively try to change that. I'm technically caught up but just feel so far behind and I kind of feel super out of my element considering I'm one of the newest people here and probably one of the worst scum hunters here. I'll actively work to change my activity levels)

do you townread dunn then?

ehhh depends. I mean bussing is a thing. I don't really trust myself to do associations before either player flips, though, I just find texcat scummy so I voted

[Golden Robster]

the wagon on tex are players that are pretty debatable and leaning towards mafia if anything

still have the impression that texcat, mylo and similarly lal are lynchbaity players who are lost sheep

[Golden Robster]

similarly lal were*

[Skygazer]

oh zamn that wagon composition is actually highly questionable

UNVOTE:

[Scioness Sajj]

going on voting strike, since my vote is of no use anyway
VOTE: unvote
texcat still scum

dunn is 'eh okay' kind of vote, don't have a read on him really

will probably catch up later today

[Tchill13]

honestly out of all my SR's im the most sure about dunn. Dunn voting n the the competing wagon to sajj made me more sure of sajj scum. We can lynch dunn first then flip sajj though.

Dunn is scum. I'd like him lynched.

wait how are you getting these associations?

Not associations. I individually scum read both players and dunn just so happens to be on the competing wagon to scionn

[Dunnstral]

oh zamn that wagon composition is actually highly questionable

UNVOTE:

Why not look at how the wagin formed yesterday and how the lalendra wagon took off

[Tchill13]

I think Krazy's case on gamma is great btw but gamma would still be at the back of my SRs

[Tchill13]

I'll sink my teeth into this tonight if everyone is going to stand around with their hands in their pockets.