NY 213 - Game Over!

[Golden Robster]

it's not hammer tchill unvoted

[TehBrawlGuy]

yawn VOTE: Dunnstral

can we lynch this yet??

like anyone but dunn is good but I like this one

[Krazy]

it's not hammer tchill unvoted

shhhh

[wavemode]

i am town aligned

[Ircher]

Day 4 VC #13

Dunnstral (9) (L-1) - JarJarDrinks (4815), Creature (4817), PenguinPower (4819), Texcat (4829), Gamma Emerald (4847), Skygazer (4973), Golden Robster (5019), Myloninja13 (5059), Wavemode (5071)

Golden Robster (1) - Hopkirk (5062)
Krazy (1) - Ankamius (5049)
Gamma Emerald (1) - Krazy (4859)
Tchill13 (0) -
Texcat (2) - Dunnstral (4670), TehBrawlGuy (4710)
Vaxkiller (0) -
Scioness Sajj (1) - Vaxkiller (4721)
Not Voting (3) - Kublai Khan, Scioness Sajj (4895), Tchill13 (5064)

Lynch Threshold

During day 4, it takes 10 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 4 ends on August 2, 2018 5:30 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-08-02 17:30:00).

Moderator Notes

If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
Golden Robster is V/LA until August 1.

You are expected to post at least once every 4 days.

If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Dunnstral: Texcat (4670)
Golden Robster: Scioness Sajj (4681) --> Dunnstral (5019)
Krazy: Texcat (4669) --> Gamma Emerald (4859)
Creature: Scioness Sajj (4665) --> Texcat (4745) --> Dunnstral (4817)
Hopkirk: Scioness Sajj (4672) --> (Null) (4848) --> Scioness Sajj (4857) --> Vaxkiller (4992) --> Golden Robster (5062)
Gamma Emerald: Dunnstral (4847)
Tchill13: Scioness Sajj (4707) --> Dunnstral (4822) --> Scioness Sajj (4863) --> Dunnstral (4988) --> (Null) (5064)
Skygazer: Scioness Sajj (4717) --> Texcat (4888) --> (Null) (4894) --> Dunnstral (4973)
JarJarDrinks: Scioness Sajj (4674) --> Dunnstral (4815)
Ankamius: Tchill13 (4756) --> Texcat (5002) --> Krazy (5049)
Texcat: Dunnstral (4829)
TehBrawlGuy: Texcat (4710)
Vaxkiller: Scioness Sajj (4721)
Wavemode: Scioness Sajj (4854) --> Dunnstral (5071)
PenguinPower: Scioness Sajj (4713) --> Dunnstral (4819)
Myloninja13: Dunnstral (4837) --> Gamma Emerald (4965) --> Dunnstral (5059)
Scioness Sajj: Texcat (4675) --> (Null) (4895)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 3

* - Hammer vote
^ - Vote occurred after hammer

Dunnstral (2): Myloninja13 (3463) --> Texcat (4162)
Golden Robster (3): Dunnstral (3559) --> TehBrawlGuy (4208) --> Creature (4255)
Pine (0):
Krazy (3): Dunnstral (3978) --> Texcat (4161) --> Gamma Emerald (4392)
Creature (8): Texcat (3472) -->

Lalendra

(3681) --> Texcat (3744) --> Myloninja13 (4013) --> Texcat (4165) -->

Lalendra

(4213) --> Kublai Khan (4260) -->

Lalendra

(4284)
Kublai Khan (7): Creature (3511) -->

Lalendra

(4033) --> TehBrawlGuy (4184) --> Creature (4240) -->

Lalendra

(4308) --> Gamma Emerald (4416) -->

Lalendra

(4557)
Hopkirk (3):

Lalendra

(3661) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4339)
Gamma Emerald (3):

Lalendra

(3913) --> (Null) (3954) --> Myloninja13 (4073)

Ausuka

(4): Myloninja13 (3640) -->

Lalendra

(3677) --> Myloninja13 (4010) -->

Lalendra

(4286)

Lalendra

(3): TehBrawlGuy (3719) --> Myloninja13 (4130) --> Creature (4384)
Tchill13 (3):

Lalendra

(3690) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4215)
Frozen Angel (0):
Skygazer (1):

Lalendra

(4564)
JarJarDrinks (5): Creature (3616) --> (Null) (3694) -->

Lalendra

(3695) --> Dunnstral (3704) -->

Lalendra

(3721)
Ankamius (3):

Lalendra

(3801) --> (Null) (4044) --> Creature (4239)
Texcat (1): Myloninja13 (3637)
TehBrawlGuy (4): JarJarDrinks (3466) --> Texcat (3790) --> Creature (4245) --> Gamma Emerald (4421)
Vaxkiller (3): Kublai Khan (4004) --> Myloninja13 (4214) -->

Lalendra

(4220)
Wavemode (2): TehBrawlGuy (3468) -->

Lalendra

(3716) --> _{Ankamius (4600^)}
PenguinPower (3): Texcat (3473) --> Myloninja13 (3643) -->

Lalendra

(3678)
Myloninja13 (2): Dunnstral (3765) --> Creature (4252)
Scioness Sajj (3): Texcat (3756) --> Creature (4338) -->

Lalendra

(4577*)

Day 2

Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral (4): Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206) --> PenguinPower (3242) --> TehBrawlGuy (3248)
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) -->

WhemeStar

(2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2642) --> (Null) (2783) --> PenguinPower (2979) -->

WhemeStar

(3099) --> (Null) (3284) -->

WhemeStar

(3286)
Pine (1): Andriod18 (1936)
Creature (3): Myloninja13 (1941) --> PenguinPower (2835) -->

WhemeStar

(3453*)
Kublai Khan (5):

Flavor Leaf

(1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) --> PenguinPower (2899) -->

WhemeStar

(3027)

WhemeStar

(4): Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2542) --> PenguinPower (2930)
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) -->

WhemeStar

(3008)
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) --> PenguinPower (2990) -->

WhemeStar

(3318)

Ausuka

(7): PenguinPower (1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023) -->

WhemeStar

(3293)

Lalendra

(7): Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2657) --> (Null) (2705) --> PenguinPower (2809) -->

WhemeStar

(3097)
EspeciallyTheLies (1): PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2327) --> (Null) (2612) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) -->

WhemeStar

(3030)
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) -->

WhemeStar

(3062) --> (Null) (3118) -->

WhemeStar

(3165) --> (Null) (3196) -->

WhemeStar

(3233)
Vaxkiller (5):

WhemeStar

(2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) --> PenguinPower (3012) -->

WhemeStar

(3112) --> PenguinPower (3290)
Wavemode (6): Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2635) --> (Null) (2800) -->

WhemeStar

(2966) ==>

WhemeStar

(3115)
PenguinPower (7): Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) -->

WhemeStar

(2962)
Myloninja13 (1): PenguinPower (2437)
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 (2904) -->

WhemeStar

(3034) --> PenguinPower (3255)

Flavor Leaf

(5): JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) --> PenguinPower (2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) -->

WhemeStar

(2958)

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) -->

Lalendra

(1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> (Null) (1798)
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)

WhemeStar

(3):

Lalendra

(234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) -->

Flavor Leaf

(955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) -->

Lalendra

(279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) -->

Lalendra

(1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)

Lalendra

(3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)

Flavor Leaf

(1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[Ankamius]

Pushing against lynching the neighbourhood I liked.
Doctor fakeclaim doesn't survive long. Like in 3568. I can semi buy why he was off the wagon.

Something feels off about the slow rate of d1/d2/d3 wagons compared to Dunn's wagon today (and Scion's). There have been so many wagons this game that've that just hung for ages without any more pushing and something feels off.

I love you

[Ankamius]

Purge the Dunn wagon

Thanks

[Krazy]

Ank you put Dunn below 50%?

Like just because there's scum on the wagon (there is) doesn't mean this isn't another bussing day.

[Hopkirk]

It feels like too many wagons aren't going anywhere. Mylo got like 7 votes earlier then hasn't been discussed since.

-Playing to scum meta. Heavily beetlejuicing. Got worse after he was accused of it like he wasn't doing it super intentionally initially, but after a point it feels forced/intentional. Especially given there's plenty of people arguing against lynching him because of it.
-Off the scum lynch wagon and on the counterwagon.
-Hammer posturing. Says 'oh i could hammer wheme' without having a read on him before then or doing it.
-Would fit the slow wagons.

Something else I'm very concerned about is that his use of meta is horrible. He keeps saying things are based on meta when I'm not convinced he's actually seen that player play before (or if he's been looking at it this game, he's been doing it but not posting here).

Not sure if I believe in Scioness!Scum... I might have to do a fancy schmancy meta-check-up read on them.

Not completely sure about texcat!scum either, but I'd be fine to also vote for Gamma.

There's no way that a guy who isn't definitely reading the thread was ever planning to do meta on Scion.

He also allegedly had a meta read on Penguin despite the fact he's literally never used the word Penguin while on mafiascum. Hasn't played with him before, so either he did meta this game and didn't mention it (and did it instead of actual posting) or stumbled across it some time. This feels like it also applies to his other uses of 'meta'.

On the same note, Mylo can you go over briefly which games you looked at from Lelandra and Dunn that made them lean town/scum?
When did you look at Lalendra's meta given you haven't played together before?
Have you played more than one game with Gamma?

[Krazy]

But Hopkirk do you really want to do the scum bossfight today?

[Ankamius]

Ank you put Dunn below 50%?

Like just because there's scum on the wagon (there is) doesn't mean this isn't another bussing day.

Scum aren't going to want to bus in this chaotic of a gamestate, are you crazy?

[TehBrawlGuy]

Ank you put Dunn below 50%?

Like just because there's scum on the wagon (there is) doesn't mean this isn't another bussing day.

Scum aren't going to want to bus in this chaotic of a gamestate, are you crazy?

*krazy

[Ankamius]

Thanks I don't know what came over me

[Krazy]

Ank you put Dunn below 50%?

Like just because there's scum on the wagon (there is) doesn't mean this isn't another bussing day.

Scum aren't going to want to bus in this chaotic of a gamestate, are you crazy?

[Hopkirk]

Looking back briefly at Mylo's previous posts on meta:
-Talks about his own meta a lot but not other people's (though also seems very concerned with his meta as scum. To paraphrase 'I don't care about my meta as town'.
-As far as I can tell, he hasn't tried to use meta reads on people before, at one point saying he didn't think they were very useful.

He's thrown like 5 reads down this game - including his Dunn scumread- based on meta. It kind of feels like he's just... pretending to have meta reads as it's an easy way to justify a read and hoping nobody calls him out on it (if Mylo flips scum, slight townpoints to Scion here I guess though).

[Ankamius]

Ank you put Dunn below 50%?

Like just because there's scum on the wagon (there is) doesn't mean this isn't another bussing day.

Scum aren't going to want to bus in this chaotic of a gamestate, are you crazy?

You're wrong

[Krazy]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree Ank. What do you think about Hopkirk's FoS on Mylo? Is Mylo truly too lazy to do meta?

[Ankamius]

Mylo is too lazy to do a lot of things

Or something

I don't ever remember having much of an impact in any game I've ever seen him in and he was always wagoned for it

[Golden Robster]

on one hand inclined to say mylo is scummy just by content but at the same time he's been sheeping me a lot

so I'm fine with him doing his own thing right now

[Golden Robster]

But Hopkirk do you really want to do the scum bossfight today?

Gamma wagon has the best memes. Join us, Mylo! Embrace the lulz!

when did you scumread mylo?

[Golden Robster]

so I'm fine with him doing his own thing right now

and when I say own thing I really mean sheeping me

[Krazy]

GR you have always been the scum bossfight.

[Kublai Khan]

I'm ready to hammer Dunn.

[Ankamius]

I give up

Hard lurking really was the best choice

[Golden Robster]

GR you have always been the scum bossfight.

why though