NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Jingle]

Did a hollow voice say fool yet?

[Skygazer]

We have a death pool of myself, profii, HWS, a50, and xyzzy

(still think xyzzy is a stupid lynch)

[Jingle]

I recognize three of those people from games and one from sitechat.

Is A50 playing the game or lurking?

[Skygazer]

Gamma slot claimed an investigative who stated that tw tried to kill someone last night and tw admitted to the dram shot

MoI claimed odd-night loyal fruit vendor, Ausuka claimed loyal fruit vendor, their targets were Nos and Rask respectively

Nos slot claimed an inno on chicka without full claiming

Inferno claimed visitor i think??? Was that a thing? Or am I being dumb?

Chicka claimed vengeful

Brass claimed activated bp who activated last night

A50 claimed VT unprompted and then spread a ton of wifom around it

Am I missing any?

[Ausuka]

A50 is playing yes.

I want to respond to Skygazer rn but i don't have the time or energy in me right now. sorry.

VOTE: HWS seems more viable than any other good lynch rn.

don't get why MOI saw me ask not to make comments like "actually you could be scum too!!!" and then did that anyway unless he's scum who prioritizes looking like he has conviction in his push over actually helping town.

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Also, I feel it's only fair to warn you all. Pine gave me explicit permission to troll this game.

Just looked at A50's ISO. Making plans looks like town, plans seem stupid. Needs more context to sort.

Can confirm I visited someone last night. Will not confirm whom or what I visited, mostly because I've already closed that PM and it's all the way in my inbox. Like, two whole clicks. That's never gonna happen.

My guess from setup spec perspective is Gamma is probscum, but should definitely be left alive til late as he's a source of valuable valuable lunchmeats regardless of alignments.

Do you have a reason for thinking the zzzyzaxus lynch is bad, or is it just a bad mouthfeel thing?

[Jingle]

Are any of the deathpool actually cased, or is this consensus based shenaynaygans?

[the worst]

we have an obscene number of town clears

[the worst]

MoI is an even night loyal fruit vendor who cleared Andrius!slot
Ausuka is a full loyal fruit vendor who cleared Raskolnikov
I'm obvtown
Andrius hasn't fullclaimed but says he cleared Chickadee last night

[Ausuka]

the lynchpool is literally Taly's scumpool from earlier and he's made a lot of caselike posts so probably iso him.

[the worst]

oh yeah Taly's epic scumhunting wallposts. BTW I have a small reason to think Taly is town.

[Skygazer]

Taly made cases on myself/a50 slot/xyzzy, HWS has been super lurky and not really contributing, and profii did a bunch of sus stuff today, I can find my summary post on that

I think xyzzy's posts were pretty well reasoned and town yesterday and they lurked a bit today but also said that they were town in what was supposed to be twilight today

[Skygazer]

tw is probs a serial killer but possibly a vig so I think town is just going to push him to make protown kills for now

[the worst]

oh yeah I'm vig outed clumsily by HitAlt

[Skygazer]

Spoiler: my case on tw and why we should leash him

[Jingle]

Aight, lemme get this straight. People suspect the existence of an SK because "Dram's role PM." Which, hilariously bad English in general, btw, and more indicative of multiball than 3rd party if that is indicative at all. Taly's ISO can answer all of my questions, but also makes my eyeparts bleed while trying to read it. The following is a list of claims/clears as understood by the thread at large.

Innocents:
10. Chickadee- Vengeful with an innocent result
14. Raskolnikov- Owns Fruit
16. Nos- Investimagative who owns fruit

Pos EV Roles (Assuming Town):
2. MagnaofIllusion- 1/2 Loyal FV
3. Ausuka- 2/2 Loyal FV
7. Gamma Emerald- Investimagative
4. brassherald- Activated BP
5. the worst- NK Immune Miller Vig

Neutral EV Roles (Assuming Town)
9. Jingle - Visitor
1. 49- Useless, boring role

The great unwashed, yearning to be free:
17. Profii-
8. Skygazer-
15. Taly-
11. xyzzy-
12. HeWhoSwims-

If all the claims are town, this game is breakable on Night 1. Therefore, not all the claims are town. The Gemerald is prolly a tracker of some sort, which makes sense with all of the visiting and fruit vending and whatnot. Quick question claim wise, did Gemerald claim that the worst killed dram or did the worst claim the kill after Gemerald claimed to know whodoneit?

HWS is a lurker seems like a shitty case, unless someone can provide me a reason why that makes him scum. I could maybe get behind the A50 wagon based on "Let's completely waste the utility of the FV roles" but I admittedly didn't read most of that ISO after checking to see if A50 was actually putting some thought into setup. I'd lynch the everliving fuck out of Taly given the opportunity, especially because through all of the shit I read the conclusion is apparently "Scum is in the unclaimed players other than me that haven't been cleared and the single VT claim". Skygazer is giving me slight townfeels based on the protection of zizzy, and the protection of zizzy means I don't particularly want to lynch there either. I should probably read some posts by profii at some point. We have a little less than two days to reach a consensus before Pine slams the door shut in our face.

Is this an accurate representation of the game state?

[Jingle]

My experience with SK TW is that he pledges his fealty to me and works in my favor, so down with leashing him btw. Especially since he's probably gonna eat a bullet anyway given that dram's buddies can't risk him killing them.

[the worst]

Jingle is well across my SK style.

Gemerald is a detective. I'll dig up HitAlt and my convo at sod2 because we both kinda? tried to soft it to each other and had an epic communication breakdown

[the worst]

Spoiler:

Guys, I know TWO people who did a thing at night.
One of them was so loud I couldn't help but hear it, and the other one killed a dude. Or at least tried to.

How should we proceed - I do not wish to out our Vig and I'm not sure that one person being so noisy means anything alignment-wise..

This could be spicy, but I could also be outing our vig.
Not willing to do that kind of a blunder just yet.

I'd also like to know something more about those bananas - who exactly got them? (apparently multiple people?)
And brass - can you give any more specifics on why / how you know your BP activated? (

PLEASE LET HIM ANSWER THIS BY HIMSELF - COULD BE IMPORTANT.

OK, with this in mind, I have a CRAZY idea that will likely backfire, so I'll skip that.
But.
I feel 75% sure I was protected last night AND I got a guilty on the scummie who tried to kill me.

TO BE CERTAIN WOULD REQUIRE OUR VIG TO STEP FORWARD AND CLAIM THE KILL THAT WENT THROUGH.

Opinions?

Hey Duck

- you satisfied with how your night went?
Did you receive a message of any kind?

@Taly we should jam when you're around

I think your scumread on me is pretty bad and I think you know it too, there's just not a lot of other reads to arrive at with me atm.

pedit: uuuhhhhhhh no
imo dram was obvscum so I was kinda just proceeding on that basis yday

getting off his wagon was literally because you and MoI strongarmed me for mechanical reasons. which were probably reasonable but still didn't change my reads.

Hey Duck

- you satisfied with how your night went?
Did you receive a message of any kind?

I was a little lonely last night : ( and no I didn't receive any messages

Assume I'm capable of doing the tango with the lingo.
And know that I'm not satisfied with your answer here, so...care to elaborate a bit more on how your night really was?

Hey Duck

- you satisfied with how your night went?
Did you receive a message of any kind?

I was a little lonely last night : ( and no I didn't receive any messages

Assume I'm capable of doing the tango with the lingo.
And know that I'm not satisfied with your answer here, so...care to elaborate a bit more on how your night really was?

goodness Hit~
what I get up to in the confines of my own bedroom is entirely my business.

are we really going down this path? because I greatly value my privacy.

We go down the path.

We go down the path.

claim for me then

We go down the path.

claim for me then

Oh Senór Duck - I think you could've satisfied my curiosity with your very first reply to me if you really wanted to..

I am absolutely not claiming myself

until you either fullclaim, or hint to me what you did last night/if anything.
You should be capable of either if you put your head to it.

oh I meant if you know what I did last night you can already guess what I'm gonna claim

obv you shouldn't full claim unless it's required to out a guilty

read my responses to you really carefully
if you want to go down this path it's 100% up to you but it's not my preference.

OK, I'm willing to take the blame then as I can't see what you might have hinted at there.

NO MORE HINTING (or hidden meanings):

I'm proposing that you did nothing last night, is that assumption correct?

no you're not. I did not do nothing last night

I did not do nothing last night

So you did what you wanted to do then? No problems?

I did not do nothing last night

So you did what you wanted to do then? No problems?

yup. :> Hbu?

excerpt, it's in our joined ISO at end of page 1+ lots of page 2.

[Jingle]

Introdasting. Virtually a hardclear on HA. I can dig it.

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Innocents:
10. Chickadee- Vengeful with an innocent result
14. Raskolnikov- Owns Fruit
16. Nos- Investimagative who owns fruit
7. Gamma Emerald- Investimagative


Pos EV Roles (Assuming Town):
2. MagnaofIllusion- 1/2 Loyal FV
3. Ausuka- 2/2 Loyal FV
4. brassherald- Activated BP
5. the worst- NK Immune Miller Vig

Neutral EV Roles (Assuming Town)
9. Jingle - Visitor
1. 49- Useless, boring role

The great unwashed, yearning to be free:
17. Profii-
8. Skygazer-
15. Taly-
11. xyzzy-
12. HeWhoSwims-

harold is the only claimed kill prevention and we're missing a kill. Have we explored the rabbit hole of who profits on his death yet?

[the worst]

That's pretty much all I've got on the lack of scum kill. It either splashed on Hazza's BP shot or there's an unclaimed roleblocker (who then should claim) or some kinda magical protection in the unclaimeds

[Jingle]

roleblocker (who then should claim)

:thorface:

We don't need more claims, TYVM.

Especially not potential protective/investigative claims.

I'm going to go to bed. And tomorrow I'll look at this again and throw down my vote. If someone wants to cut down on the amount of work I've gotta do, they can analyze bh's stances at EoD D1, write a towncase on Taly, or write coherent scumcases on any of the other potential lynch targets.

[the worst]

ya agreed no one should claim except someone with a guilty I'm SORRY I'm tired

[HeWhoSwims]

Finally someone who refers to me as Harold

I think it's a bad idea to count all innocents as "never lynch", won't there be 2 or 3 or even 4 innos a night if Gamma, Andrius, Ausuka and moi are all alive?