Open 733: Grey Flag (Complete)

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

Formatting error The two posts I'm talking about are 471 & 474.

[ruru]

votecount

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Gosrir Elmer Odels (1):	the worst (503),
the worst (1):	Gosrir Elmer Odels (524),
Not voting (5):	ofrhz,	ceejayvinoya,	Skygazer,	Ircher (469),	Not_Mafia (496),

(expired on 2018-08-06 11:15:00) remain.

[the worst]

VOTE: the worst

I think it's fairly obvious. I can only reiterate myself: I've been TW's most prominent scumread since the very beginning of D1, yet he decided to hammer two other players in a row. That's anything but town.
BTW, neither the Saudade nor the Quick wagon was inevitable. Saudade might could've been sorted without him defending himself (it's not like NM's been defending himself, & people seem to be convinced he's town. À propos, @CJ: we're still doing the walking-you-through-the-NM-case-like-you-were-the-toddler-you-are routine, so answer my previous question.) Anyhow, I'm not salty about his lynch because he wouldn't have added anything useful anyway. But after his flip, Quick was essentially conftown.

is a scumslip. From a 3rd player's perspective there are two scenario's either I'm a primed mislynch primed by TW, or I'm not a primed mislynch at all. So TW's considering the former case is just lip service & dishonest. In [post]474 he warns me there aren't any more mislynches left. Well, yeah, no need telling me, as I haven't mislynched anyone in this game. Then he also tells me that my case on him is bad, as if he weren't the only person who had no say in that. These are attempts at trying to misdirect us from the fact that he's hammered two players so far instead of pushing his primary scumread.

What the hell is this? I'm sorry that I've had a consistent scumread on you and my reads on other players have changed. I do not believe that you actually think me seeing the Saudade lynch as a necessity and needing to know Quick's alignment is scum indicative. if anything you arrogantly tunnelling me and providing nearly no substantial content all game is scum indicative. Don't even give us this shit.

What part of Saudade's trajectory made you think he was suddenly going to become magically towny? He continuously got less and less towny as he got more and more bored of the game. If we didn't lynch him d1 odds are we would have ended up lynching him later. Like nothing about his ISO makes me think "ah yes my bad we could have easily realised he was town if he wasn't lynched". Do you have some useful meta tells on Saudade that you didn't mention or are you talking out of your ass?

How did town!Saudade ever = "essential conftown" Quick to you?

Trying to win last minute towncred because you haven't mislynched anyone (when that's the case because you haven't fucking done anything) is awful.

I'm never losing to lurk scum like this.

[the worst]

Sorry if I sound angry. I don't mislynch easy and I don't appreciate for a moment your suggestion that my position in our mislynches somehow makes me likely to flip scum. It's an absolute farce.

[ceejayvinoya]

Wtf @Gosrir I'm going to make it clear here. I completely disagree with your NM read. That's it and you can't walk me through it because that is how I see it. Of the two games you linked, this is more similar to his town game. I think what you're just trying to do here is justify an NM lynch...

[ceejayvinoya]

Plus I pretty much think Gosrir scumslipped when he said Quick is conftown when Saudade flipped. I don't see anything at all that connects those two. In fact, Quick barely mentioned Saudade at all...

VOTE: Gosrir

[ofrhz]

VOTE: gosrir

[ofrhz]

L-1

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: The worst

[Skygazer]

TW how do you feel about gosrir being taken to L-1 so quickly in lylo?

[Skygazer]

Also how do you feel about being placed at L-2 in lylo?

[Skygazer]

There has to be scum in {tw, gosrir}

[Skygazer]

VCA soonish

[Skygazer]

fact: gosrir was

never

on a mislynch wagon
fact: NM did not hammer gosrir so NM is town unless gosrir is scum

[Skygazer]

{tw, CJ, orfhz} have sort of a voting block thing going on with Saudade, Quick, and Gosrir

[Ircher]

VOTE: Gosrir

[Skygazer]

Hm

Guessing {Ircher, tw, CJ}??

[Skygazer]

Ircher r u scum

[Ircher]

No.

[Skygazer]

Gosrir r u scum

[Skygazer]

ruru help

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

Since there hasn't been a quickhammer on me yet, it's clear (to me) that the scumteam is TW, Loafers & CJ. I don't want to go into the details about all the possibilities from other players' PoV, but the bottom line is that today's lynch is either TW or me.

First of all, CJ's reaction to the NM is case hilarious. Yes, I wanted to justify an NM lynch, what else could've been my intention? I was presenting a case, presenting a case is justifying a lynch. Is Loafers's reason that I use letters in my posts?

In 527 TW blatantly lies that I've been tunnelling him.
Saudade was the arrogant newbie who thinks he's got some divine theory knowledge. It's a player trope, so even if there isn't proper meta about Saudade on-hand, we all still probably have enough experience with the type. I played a few games with Wake88 before my hiatus (not linking) in his early days, so I know the patterns to a degree.
I don't see how Saudade getting bored is supposed to do anything with his alignment.

Many people seem to be confused about my read on Quick, even though I put it in relatively clear terms. I was townreading him before the Saudade lynch, but that's irrelevant here. Here's what's relevant: Quick was voting me on D1, which was iirc the last major push on me that day (or if not, then one of them.) At this point everyone in the game was kind of okay with lynching me, which is a towntell on me to a certain degree. So let's go through these events assuming Quick is scum. Quick & I were the major lynch candidates at the time, so he wouldn't have made a move without checking with his buddies via daytalk. Say he doesn't notice the problem with him pushing me: that means his buddies didn't tell him either because they didn't notice or because they couldn't answer, weren't around. So the only possible scumteam with Quick in it is {Quick, Saudade Brandi (replaced by Skygazer)}. Saudade is town. So Quick must be town because scum!Quick couldn't have enough buddies. I want to reiterate this: nothing in this paragraph is new. I've already posted this before.
(Tomorrow I'll teach you how to breath through your noses. Class is over.)

PEDIT: Woh, Ircher, not cool. I'm town.

[ruru]

votecount

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Gosrir Elmer Odels (4):	the worst (503),	ceejayvinoya (530),	ofrhz (531),	Ircher (540),
the worst (2):	Gosrir Elmer Odels (524),	Not_Mafia (533),
Not voting (1):	Skygazer,

(expired on 2018-08-06 11:15:00) remain.

[ruru]

Gosrir Elmer Odels becomes the third majority suspect. He shakes his head and continues to point at the worst, but it does him no good; the decision is made. Gosrir, a rational type, glances at the broken-glass shivs, now covered in dried blood, and decides that attempting to fight the others would only increase his pain and suffering. After all, he reasons, nobody knows where the chute leads, and it can't be worse than this terrible room. Naturally, he is quite wrong.

Gosrir climbs into the chute, feet first, and gingerly begins to lower himself down in a controlled manner. Ircher, with a sadistic twinkle in his eyes, gives Gosrir an extra push. Gosrir loses his grip, and you can hear his uncontrolled downward sliding continue after he disappears from view.

Then it begins. The most horrific noise you've ever heard. Distorted in timbre by the chute's metal diaphragm, but perfectly clear in meaning, the shrieks and cries of someone instantly driven mad by physical pain echo upwards. Someone hurriedly slams the chute shut, but it only partially muffles the sound. You cover your ears with your hands, trying to make it stop, but it continues for several long minutes before eventually dying out.

You then notice that the open sleeping pods behind you have been slowly filling the room with gas. You find yourself lying on your side. The room starts to fade.

Now almost unconscious, you hear a click and the room's door flies open. Several men in hazmat suits shuffle in and begin dragging the unresisting ofrhz, Skygazer, and Not_Mafia away.

* * *

Hours later, the worst, ceejayvinoya, and Ircher regain consciousness. The door is still ajar. Ircher gets up and nervously tiptoes forward to inspect the situation, then quickly beckons the others to follow. All three red subjects break into a sprint and never look back.

The mafia of the worst, ceejayvinoya, and Ircher has won!

[Ircher]

Sorry Skygazer; I had to twilight troll you because I wanted you to wait for the mod to answer that.