Open 731: Twin Trap (Game Over)

[Inferno390]

Oho
Burger has scumslipped in an attempt to get rid of me
He doesn’t know that the only scumgame I’ve ever played is one of the marathon games from last month. (A fact that both drives me crazy and I am very proud of because it gives me very good townmeta)
I have never been scumpartners with Manatee, not have I been partners with anyone else in the regular style of game.
VOTE: Burger

Join me, brothers. I have found the true scum!

[Egg]

Egg have you played with inferno before?

Yes.

__________

Fromage, why does eragons fluff outweigh his content?

_________

Inferno how is that a scum slip?

[LastManStanding]

Votecount 1.4

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

Inferno390

(3): Almost50, ManateeDude, Poseidon

Eragon

(1): Fromage

ManateeDude

(3): Eragon, Egg, BuJaber

GameNBurger

(1): Inferno390

Not Voting

(1): GameNBurger

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-08-14 08:00:00)

[BuJaber]

Conflicted about burger. On the one hand it does seem like he's jumping to conclusions based on little evidence but that's slso a whole lot of effort just to build a case on inferno who is lynchbait frankly.

[Almost50]

I can't stand this indecision
Married with a lack of vision
Everybody needs to state a case
(and I mean a real one now if you want me to follow your vote).

[Almost50]

@Burger: So you think Inferno is scum? If so, what's keeping you from voting him?

[BuJaber]

Vote for manatee. Bad posts, lack of action, and the other 2 on his wagon seem townie to me on first impression.

Do you have a response to inferno?

[Almost50]

I stopped paying attention to Inferno's posts already. I would appreciate it if he put Manatee @L-1 though and would state intent myself.

[Inferno390]

Guys
Just realized A50 is hunting for the PRs.

@Egg: because GameNBurger is using a non-existent scumteam pairing from a previous game to try and make it look like Manatee and I have experience playing with each imo. We don’t. This is a case of Lynch All Liars.

[Almost50]

Just realized A50 is hunting for the PRs.

Yes. Exactly. I even said BuJ was likely "VT".

[GameNBurger]

I really wanted him to adress me more directly and see how he responds to the pressure before turning up the heat with an L-1

His response was super bad and has stayed constant to his behavior this game

HOWEVER

He is right that I screwed up reading the 1868 game, the mod used red text for replaced players in that game and inferno was replaced
Inferno was not scum but manatee was, I didn’t look deep into the game since manatee replaced out relatively easily

So I am very sorry about that and that’s my bad but it doesn’t contribute or take away anything from my reads on inferno since it was null anyways

Someone sell me on the case of manatee being a safer bet than inferno for lynch

I know out there is the possibility inferno being just a bad player flailing badly but I feel like this bad play is bad scumplay rather than bad town play

Manatee makes me uncomfortable with his posts and is definitely my number 2 but I could still chop it up to mindlessness and playstyle more than I could chop up Infernos action to bad town play


Anyways my vote stands with inferno unless I feel like suddenly manatee is a safer bet

VOTE: inferno

I’m out and about but I’ll take any questions, it just might take a while for me to respond

[GameNBurger]

I stopped paying attention to Inferno's posts already. I would appreciate it if he put Manatee @L-1 though and would state intent myself.

Question: why not vote manatee yourself?

[Almost50]

I stopped paying attention to Inferno's posts already. I would appreciate it if he put Manatee @L-1 though and would state intent myself.

Question: why not vote manatee yourself?

Well, because I firmly believe in lynching a VT claim on D1. This will force the Scum to claim a PR (the PR they're immune to) as a last resort before they eat rope. I am already on Inferno though, so can't do that to him, but if Manatee is @L-1 and claims VT I'm going to hammer him.

[Inferno390]

Woah stop
How am I being flaily, exactly?

[GameNBurger]

I think your reactions are entirely reactionary rather than logical jumps or any sort of serious thought

You don’t have coherent scumreads but OMGUS anyone that seems to seriously hold an accusation against you

I read this as panicky flailing rather than believe your bad enough (read: delusional) to seriously beleive all of the people you think are scum are still scum, so you read more reactionary rather than someone who has a coherent idea of what’s going on

That being said:

Your reaction to my mistake was justified, I think it’s reachy since I read the entire game as null to anything and dimssed it but I do understand your response there

[Fromage]

Fromage, why does eragons fluff outweigh his content?

Careful. I didn't say Eragon's fluff outweighs his content. I said I don't like his fluff. I'm not even sure if I scumread him.

[Fromage]

@GameNBurger: Are you fine if Inferno dies right now?

[Fromage]

I'm not even sure if I scumread him.

Read: I don't (seriously) scumread eragon.

[Eragon]

Ok I don’t have time rn but I was skimming and I saw

We are at L-1 on inferno

[Fromage]

force the Scum to claim a PR

(the PR they're immune to)

Iirc, you said yourself that discussing PRs is anti-town. I agree and think the same applies to discussing optimal scum tactics. Do you disagree?

[Fromage]

I personally always feel uneasy with fast lynches Day 1

Have you changed your mind?

[Inferno390]

I think your reactions are entirely reactionary rather than logical jumps or any sort of serious thought

You don’t have coherent scumreads but OMGUS anyone that seems to seriously hold an accusation against you

I read this as panicky flailing rather than believe your bad enough (read: delusional) to seriously beleive all of the people you think are scum are still scum, so you read more reactionary rather than someone who has a coherent idea of what’s going on

That being said:

Your reaction to my mistake was justified, I think it’s reachy since I read the entire game as null to anything and dimssed it but I do understand your response there

So your entire read on me is an Attack on Playstyle then.
I see how it is.

I also have only seriously stated three people are scum and redacted one of those reads, so to call into question my reads like you just did is ridiculous.

[Almost50]

force the Scum to claim a PR

(the PR they're immune to)

Iirc, you said yourself that discussing PRs is anti-town. I agree and think the same applies to discussing optimal scum tactics. Do you disagree?

This isn't just "optimal", it's a rule (unless they really really don't know how to play the game).

But the reason I said that is to alert the

TPRs

that's what's gonna happen, so if we get a PR claim they

do not CC

(and if they flip overnight we will know whom to lynch anyway). The TPR will now take that claim and avoid targeting that person becasie they know this is the scum that is IMMUNE to their action.

With some luck the TPR may catch the OTHER scum overnight and then they can claim on D2 leading to a town win with 2 successive lynches.

[Almost50]

I just sometimes take things for granted, so I

assumed

what I said was enough for the TPRs to get my point.

[Inferno390]

Okay
And on the off chance we actually are running up the given TPR?
See, this looks like an attempt to throw WIFOM into any claim we get off the lynch. We get a PR claim and no CC, and then scum intentionally leaves the PR alive to throw confusion into town and perhaps grab a mislynch.

Also reads like an excuse to run up people to get claims.