micro 816-II: pokemon go (open game) (gambe over)

[northsidegal]

with all of that discussion over my minor comment regarding profii, i don't want my scumread on kokichi to go understated.

[Aronis]

NSG is town

At least one scum in

{Shoshin / Stungun / Aronis }

Probably Aronis


Hard stance there for you.

Oh god your reads are awful
I second thought just go back to weak stances on everything please

[profii]

Profii, why is NSG town?

I liked the way she sorted my slot. There was a balance of paranoia which seemed genuine

I also like the Koki scum read which is getting lost and imo deserves more attention

[Shoshin]

Would Kokichi not play that way as town, NSG?

i would think that kokichi as town would at least be voting someone already or trying to sort people.

Why do you think this?

[profii]

NSG is town

At least one scum in

{Shoshin / Stungun / Aronis }

Probably Aronis


Hard stance there for you.

Oh god your reads are awful
I second thought just go back to weak stances on everything please

I would say 80% of the time you are the scum in that lynch pool and 10% to the other 2

[northsidegal]

Profii, why is NSG town?

I liked the way she sorted my slot. There was a balance of paranoia which seemed genuine

I also like the Koki scum read which is getting lost and imo deserves more attention

(just to be clear - i haven't "sorted" you as town at all. i just saw something which i wasn't sure was a reason to townread you for and wanted to hear others' thoughts.)

Would Kokichi not play that way as town, NSG?

i would think that kokichi as town would at least be voting someone already or trying to sort people.

Why do you think this?

personal history with him?

what other answer would you expect?

[Shoshin]

You weren't clear if it was just an assumption or based on actual experience. What's he usually like as town?

[profii]

Profii, why is NSG town?

I liked the way she sorted my slot. There was a balance of paranoia which seemed genuine

I also like the Koki scum read which is getting lost and imo deserves more attention

(just to be clear - i haven't "sorted" you as town at all. i just saw something which i wasn't sure was a reason to townread you for and wanted to hear others' thoughts.)

Would Kokichi not play that way as town, NSG?

i would think that kokichi as town would at least be voting someone already or trying to sort people.

Why do you think this?

personal history with him?

what other answer would you expect?

Maybe i should have said tried to sort my slot combined with paranoia

Combined with your post about being a hard player list and me making a mess of that newbie game we were in, I assume I contributed to you making that comment

So you seem genuine for those reasons

[Shoshin]

I'm also curious why GiF still townreads Koki since I'm pretty sure GiF has experience there too. And if Koki's town/scum meta is that easy to distinguish, why would Koki express preference for scum?

[profii]

Where did Koki express that preference ?

[northsidegal]

I'm also curious why GiF still townreads Koki since I'm pretty sure GiF has experience there too. And if Koki's town/scum meta is that easy to distinguish, why would Koki express preference for scum?

what makes you say that it's "that easy to distinguish"? just because it's something that i can already point out? i can't really put my finger on it, but something about that line of reasoning as a reason to not scumread him feels fallacious. there have been plenty of games that kokichi has survived long in as scum. there have been games where kokichi has been widely scumread by many day one and yet wasn't lynched.

but yes, i am interested to hear what gif has to say about kokichi.

Where did Koki express that preference ?

if he were scum, the preference would be implicit in him taking the scum role pm over the town one (assuming their pair didn't get two scum PMs)

[profii]

But Koki said he got sloppy seconds (I know he could lie)

[northsidegal]

But Koki said he got sloppy seconds (I know he could lie)

well, after all, i did hear that he

is

the ultimate liar.

[profii]

I say let’s wagon him. We need to shake the game up to find associations

VOTE: Koki

[Kokichi Oma]

I also have Kokis PM explaination in my mind that he got the reject PM which could be a scum sign

Question. What's a reject PM?

Your partner managed to get first choice, therefore the PM you ended up with was rejected by them

Um? We got both? And I said it didn't matter which game so he chose

[Kokichi Oma]

Like we got both together? So I dont get what Profil is saying

[profii]

Still doesn’t make sense that you let Gamma choose one of 2 pms and then thought you’d be masons. Something not right

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: creature

Creature doesn't post this much this early as scum, so hes likely town. Even if he isnt he will be easy to find out if hes scum

[profii]

Same - before I say what happened to me I’ll check with Schadd I can say what I want here

[Kokichi Oma]

i want to know why people are townreading kokichi. from what i've read so far i think he's probably my strongest scumread (relatively speaking) - his play kind of reminds me of mini normal 2005.

This has actually funny. Last time you said you could meta read me, you hard TR me and I was scum. The fact you try to use meta again is a bit weird

[Kokichi Oma]

Same - before I say what happened to me I’ll check with Schadd I can say what I want here

Yeah that's why I was being vague. I didn't wanna get in trouble. But basically we saw the roles at the same time. I said didn't matter which role. So he chose

[northsidegal]

yeah, i remember that game distinctly. but hey, i've never been one to give up (as i think the ending of that game proves). besides, simply misapplying one method once isn't reason to never use that method again.

[stungun0404]

@kokichi: i’m kinda curious, what did nsg hard townread for you in that game where you were scum?

[stungun0404]

*townread you for

[northsidegal]

(also - i didn't "hard tr you". it was the first 10 pages or so if i recall correctly, and then i wasn't around very much for the rest of the day.)