NY 213 - Game Over!

[Ankamius]

BTW, just so this is out there:

There's a confirmed town alive.
There's likely some sort of protection somewhere.
Yet scum killed the claimed VT.

That has a lot of significance, but I won't have a working theory until I can decipher the gamestate a bit more clearly. The biggest thing that it would most obviously indicate, is... shocker... that town is probably way off in its reads overall!

[TehBrawlGuy]

D3 Mislynch

Lalendra (11) (HAMMER @ 4577) - PenguinPower (3678), Wavemode (3716), JarJarDrinks (3721), Tchill13 (4215), Vaxkiller (4220), Creature (4284), Ausuka (4286), Hopkirk (4339), Kublai Khan (4557), Skygazer (4564), Scioness Sajj (4577*)

D4 Mislynch

Dunnstral (10) (HAMMER @ 5104) - JarJarDrinks (4815), Creature (4817), PenguinPower (4819), Texcat (4829), Gamma Emerald (4847), Skygazer (4973), Golden Robster (5019), Myloninja13 (5059), Wavemode (5071), Krazy (5104)


The subset of players on both mislynches is {Wavemode, JarJarDrinks,

PenguinPower

, Creature}. I think this is a pretty good place to start, and I'd prefer JJD or Wave. VOTE: JJD in particular has been pretty instrumental in our failed lynches. He even set up the awful Dunn lynch before Lala died.

Dunn is obviously next lynch after lala.

[Skygazer]

excuse me you left me out

[Ankamius]

Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (5) -

Hopkirk

(2346), Gamma Emerald (2488),

Flavor Leaf

(2499),

Ankamius

(2533),

PenguinPower

(2572)

Whemestar

(0) -

Hopkirk

(0) -
Tchill13 (0) -
JarJarDrinks (1) -

Dunnstral

(2206)

Ankamius

(1) - Krazy (1936)
Texcat (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (0) -
Vaxkiller (1) - Kublai Khan (2423)
Wavemode (1) - TehBrawlGuy (2690)

PenguinPower

(2) - Tchill13 (1996), Myloninja13 (2437)
Myloninja13 (4) - Creature (1941), Vaxkiller (2472), Texcat (2552),

Ausuka

(2574)
Scioness Sajj (0) -

Flavor Leaf

(5) -

Whemestar

(2542),

Wavemode

(2635),

JarJarDrinks

(2640),

Golden Robster

(2642),

Lalendra

(2657)
Not Voting (2) - Skygazer, Scioness Sajj

Golden Robster (2) -

Flavor Leaf

(2774),

PenguinPower

(2775)
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (2) - Gamma Emerald (2488),

Ankamius

(2533)

Whemestar

(0) -

Hopkirk

(0) -
Tchill13 (0) -
JarJarDrinks (1) -

Dunnstral

(2206)

Ankamius

(1) - Krazy (1936)
Texcat (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (0) -
Vaxkiller (1) - Kublai Khan (2423)
Wavemode (1) - TehBrawlGuy (2690)

PenguinPower

(2) - Tchill13 (1996), Myloninja13 (2437)
Myloninja13 (4) - Creature (1941), Vaxkiller (2472), Texcat (2552),

Ausuka

(2574)
Scioness Sajj (0) -

Flavor Leaf

(1) -

Whemestar

(2542)
Not Voting (7) - Skygazer, Scioness Sajj,

Lalendra

(2705),

JarJarDrinks

(2755),

Hopkirk

(2782),

Golden Robster

(2783),

Wavemode

(2800)

Golden Robster (0) -
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (1) -

Ankamius

(2533)

Whemestar

(3) -

Flavor Leaf

(2958),

PenguinPower

(2962),

Wavemode

(2966)

Hopkirk

(0) -
Tchill13 (0) -
JarJarDrinks (1) -

Dunnstral

(2206)

Ankamius

(3) - Krazy (1936), Scioness Sajj (2904),

JarJarDrinks

(2943)
Texcat (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (0) -
Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (1) - TehBrawlGuy (2690)

PenguinPower

(8) - Tchill13 (1996), Myloninja13 (2437),

Lalendra

(2809), Creature (2835), Kublai Khan (2899),

Whemestar

(2930),

Golden Robster

(2979), Gamma Emerald (2990)
Myloninja13 (3) - Vaxkiller (2472), Texcat (2552),

Ausuka

(2574)
Scioness Sajj (0) -

Flavor Leaf

(0) -
Not Voting (2) - Skygazer,

Hopkirk

(2782)

Something I found a bit interesting

[TehBrawlGuy]

excuse me you left me out

ok you can be in my lynchpool too

[Ankamius]

Well, I should probably go into what's interesting about this since I'm not sure it's entirely obvious:

1. There's three wagons. The Kublai wagon is (from my POV at least) almost all town. The Mylo wagon is mostly unknown and the Flavor Leaf wagon has three players that are unknown as well as a conftown and a confscum.
2. I assume that's when Flavor Leaf is outed as a mason, because all three unvote. Also interesting is that all three of the conftown on Kublai Khan unvoted at the same time. Mylo is not taken as the next wagon possibility for scum. Instead, all three unknowns of Flavor Leaf just unvote entirely.
3. All three end up on different wagons; Golden ends up on the now huge wagon on now conftown PP, JarJar ends up on the mini-wagon on my slot, and Wavemode votes for the flipped scum with two now known town.

This isn't too indicative of much right now, but with more info, it could be useful as an indicator of which of these three slots are scum if there's reason to believe more than one scum was voting Flavor Leaf while he was being wagoned.

[Ankamius]

Buuuuuuut

it does slightly increase the odds that Mylo is scum.

[Ankamius]

My brain isn't functioning tonight anymore so I'll stop analyzing for right now.

Don't quicklynch while I'm gone, thanks

[Tchill13]

Whyd u guys lynch dunn btw

BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK HE ACTUALLY BELIEVED WHEMES DOC CLAIM, didnt mean to caps lock that btw.

[Tchill13]

well apologies for having such bad reads, I began to back off dunn but the lynch went through. IK that looks scummy considering I pushed him most of the day if not all.

Hop said he was town though and he flipped town.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: vaxkiller

[TehBrawlGuy]

VOTE: vaxkiller

y

[Ankamius]

well apologies for having such bad reads, I began to back off dunn but the lynch went through. IK that looks scummy considering I pushed him most of the day if not all.

Hop said he was town though and he flipped town.

I said he was town first

[Tchill13]

well apologies for having such bad reads, I began to back off dunn but the lynch went through. IK that looks scummy considering I pushed him most of the day if not all.

Hop said he was town though and he flipped town.

I said he was town first

and you're not conftown and could actually KNOW he's town...

I think you're town though. I'm just saying.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: vaxkiller

y

good question.

VOTE: tehbrawlguy

[Ankamius]

I'll be blatantly obvtown by the time day ends barring a quicklynch (which would almost certainly be on town so)

So it will basically be true

[TehBrawlGuy]

VOTE: vaxkiller

y

good question.

VOTE: tehbrawlguy

that doesn't answer my question about what you see in vax

[Tchill13]

I'll be blatantly obvtown by the time day ends barring a quicklynch (which would almost certainly be on town so)

So it will basically be true

I hope you're town. Town need to step up and try to steer this in a good direction. I'm continuing to push logic i don't see making sense instead of Scum motivation. I do this from time to time. I'll try to reset. I definately need help though. I'm not doing well. I vehemently pushed lalendra and dunn.

what TBG has done makes sense from a scum motivation side imo. Vax has been avoiding the spot light imo. Trying not to bring any attention to himself.

[Tchill13]

What's wrong with you guys? I don't remember wheme being so scummy that we ignore good strategy and just lynch him through a doctor claim, I was under the impression that this was basically a lurker/lynchbait day.

Wheme isn't scummy around hammer, why would mafia claim dumb protect targets

If Wheme is mafia he gets caught later and we lynch him over any other doc claim if it comes to it

If we lynch doctor we lose our way to protect all these mason/ic that prematurely claimed (more bad town play but nothing I could do about it)

VOTE: PenguinPower

VOTE: tehbrawlguy

We can try

VOTE: penguinpower
Don't scumread tbg, nor do I want another claim.

Will switched if needed.

UNVOTE: Wheme

if wheme flips town you hardlynch PP with me

VOTE: whemestar

VOTE: penguin power

ladies and gentleman. There are the "stallers" there's at least 1 if not 2 scum there. All after the obvious doc fake claim.

[Ankamius]

I'll try to build a solve

[Tchill13]

dunn and vax both jumped off wheme (scum) to vote PP (town).

now that we know Dunn was town wouldn't it make vax's vote here more likely to come from scum piggybacking town?

[Tchill13]

I'll try to build a solve

I can't determine the play style of scum. IDK how they would have handled the wheme situation.

That is what has me messed up. Play that I tend to find odd is apparently the bees knees around here. Thats about as nice as I can put it.

[Ankamius]

I don't understand what you're referring to with Dunn+Vax moving off of Wheme onto PP

[Tchill13]

Remember who is stalling back and forth.

"BACK AND FORTH"

if I remember correctly Gamma and TBG would have been the biggest culprits of this. I may redirect my attention there.

[Tchill13]

I don't understand what you're referring to with Dunn+Vax moving off of Wheme onto PP

dunn voted PP just to get his vote off wheme, he immediately votes TBG afterwards (why I wanted dunn lynched)

Vax hopped off wheme and voted PP after Robster mentioned lynching PP if Wheme flips town.

I just think its odd that we have players that specifically hopped off scum and voted town FOR SURE.