No, there were just multiple points where my top fos defended the confirmed scum before they faked commitment to the wagon before backtracking again and seeing if maybe the lynch might be cancelled.
It is a defense, it doesn't make Gamma any better though.
It seems like a lot of your defense of Gamma hinges on a game you played where they were not like they are in this game. Have you looked at more games beyond that one?
It also seems like you think Gamma is town because he is "indecisive" and "aggressive" -- in what sense has gamma been aggressive for the last two days? It seems like he has been straight up active lurking while sheeping leading wagons for the whole last two days. As for indecisive... Gamma has voted like, maybe 6 people this game? Of which includes Lalendra (with a weak sheep vote) and PP (who is confirmed town). There's also Mylo, which reads to me as opportunism on lynchbait town. Where is the scumhunting? Where is this aggressiveness that makes Gamma town? Because frankly I just don't see it. It seems more like Gamma is perfectly happy to throw his vote on the leading wagon and sit there until it results in a mislynch. How is that indecisive?
If you want to really meta Gamma, then let's meta Gamma. I'm not the biggest fan of meta, but yolo.
Vanilla town -- look at the frequency of vote movement and the different pushes --> this is town Gamma:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
Town Gamma -- look at frequency of vote movement and different pushes, again town Gamma:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
TPR, still more pushing and vote frequency than here:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
If you wanted to make the counter-argument, Gamma this game is playing a bit closer to this:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
So town Gamma CAN be passive, but USUALLY is aggressive with frequent pushes and high vote change frequency. To that extent, meta in this case leans NAI but suggest Gamma is not playing to his town meta in any clear or discernible way.
Scum Gamma -- kind of an unusual game tho so not sure if helpful, but it does line up with more unvotes, fewer pushes:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
Scum Gamma -- slightly fewer votes, and also noticeably less explanation behind the votes or associated pushing:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
So let's review:
Gamma is not obviously town from a meta reading. There is one game where Gamma plays a bit similarly to this, but most of his town games look pretty different. Additionally, from a meta reading, Gamma could be plausibly scum. This is not significantly different from Gamma's scum play in previous cases.
So if your argument is that I am scummy because I think Gamma is scummy because of your meta read that Gamma is town, I strongly encourage you to look at a wider sample size of Gamma's games than just the one you were in. At the very least, you should recognize that another participant in this game is not going to look at Gamma and say "Oh yes, based on meta this person is town." People in this game are first going to look at what people in this game are doing.
Beyond that, meta is weak. Look at Gamma's reads, votes, and overall portfolio in this game. The votes on Lalendra and Dunn had little reasoning and were largely opportunistic. Beyond that, the slot is mostly active lurking while occasionally casting shade or goading me. If you really believe Gamma would not bus Wheme, I can respect that. That's a critical decision point, but don't assume that I'm scum if we disagree on that matter.
As for Gamma being wishy washy while Wheme was up... yeah, I think Scum-Gamma would have been willing to get off the wagon if he could have done so and it not look shady if someone else hammered.
-I think he tested the wagon by asking for its reasoning while on PP
-He recognized PP had stalled and Wheme was probably the lynch for the day, so he bussed to active lurk for a few more game days while probably not getting lynched
-When there were some delays on Wheme, he thought maybe he could throw some shade and get off without ever actively defending Wheme, only questioning other people's reasoning for suspicion. He never argues Wheme is town after the bus. It's testing the waters to see if he could get off, so yeah, I don't really see it as defending that much. Look at how TBG and Ank defend Dunn yesterday. They argue that the slot is TOWN. They don't say, "well, your reasons for voting this person seem kinda NAI." It looks more like Gamma was setting up a rationale to leave the wagon without ever actively defending Wheme. This seems more passive and cautionary than aggressive, which fits Gamma's scum profile more than his town profile.
It is possible I'm wrong. If you think texcat is just a way better wagon, let me know why.
