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Post Post #5375 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:17 pm

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In post 5371, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 5369, TehBrawlGuy wrote:if you want to lynch me for the same reasons you lynched them, you've clearly learned nothing from their flips. lol
clearly not why i want to lynch you. I just added that.
I mean, it doesn't add a lot of credence to your case when your opinion of "valuable info" is something that caused us to mislynch two townies.

If your case on me was decent, you wouldn't need to add garbage to it to hammer the point home.
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Post Post #5376 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:44 pm

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so you had lalendra and dunn lock town?

if anything their town flips tell us we don't know how scum interacted with that wagon. So you can't lock scum someone or town clear someone for it.
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Post Post #5377 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:54 pm

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In post 5115, Krazy wrote:Apologies for shitty hammer. I will try not to vote when I'm not at home and actually double check the count 0.o

Hop, I meta'd Mylo, and I think this game fits his town meta more than his scum meta. Town meta is lots of lynchbaity short posts, scum meta is fewer longer posts.

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Post Post #5378 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:55 pm

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Day 5 VC #5Krazy (2) - Wavemode (), Hopkirk ()
Gamma Emerald (3) - Krazy (), Vaxkiller (), Scioness Sajj ()
JarJarDrinks (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (2) - Tchill13 (), Golden Robster ()
Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (2) - Ankamius (), Kublai Khan (), TehBrawlGuy ()
Not Voting (6) - JarJarDrinks, Creature, Texcat, Gamma Emerald, Skygazer, Myloninja13

Lynch ThresholdDuring day 5, it takes 9 votes to lynch a player.

DeadlineDay 5 ends on August 8, 2018 8:45 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-08-08 20:45:00).

Moderator NotesIf you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
Moderator is V/LA from August 10 to August 21. (Hopefully I'll be around during that time, but if not, I'm sure Not Known 15 will cover for me.)
Scioness Sajj is V/LA until August 6.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History
Golden Robster: TehBrawlGuy ()
Krazy: Gamma Emerald ()
Kublai Khan: Wavemode ()
Hopkirk: Krazy ()
Tchill13: Vaxkiller () --> TehBrawlGuy () ==> TehBrawlGuy ()
Ankamius: Wavemode ()
TehBrawlGuy: JarJarDrinks () --> Wavemode ()
Vaxkiller: Krazy () --> Gamma Emerald ()
Wavemode: Krazy ()
Scioness Sajj: Gamma Emerald ()

Spoiler: Previous Voting History
Day 4
* - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral
(1): Texcat ()
Golden Robster (2): Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
()
Krazy (3): Texcat () --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Dunnstral
(*)
Creature (3): Scioness Sajj () --> Texcat () -->
Dunnstral
()
Hopkirk (5): Scioness Sajj () --> (Null) () --> Scioness Sajj () --> Vaxkiller () --> Golden Robster ()
Gamma Emerald (1):
Dunnstral
()
Tchill13 (6): Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
() --> Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
() --> (Null) () --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Skygazer (4): Scioness Sajj () --> Texcat () --> (Null) () -->
Dunnstral
()
JarJarDrinks (2): Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
()
Ankamius (3): Tchill13 () --> Texcat () --> Krazy ()
Texcat (1):
Dunnstral
()
TehBrawlGuy (1): Texcat ()
Vaxkiller (1): Scioness Sajj ()
Wavemode (2): Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
()
PenguinPower
(2): Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
()
Myloninja13 (3):
Dunnstral
() --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Dunnstral
()
Scioness Sajj (2): Texcat () --> (Null) ()

Day 3
* - Hammer vote
^ - Vote occurred after hammer

Dunnstral
(2): Myloninja13 () --> Texcat ()
Golden Robster (3):
Dunnstral
() --> TehBrawlGuy () --> Creature ()
Pine (0):
Krazy (3):
Dunnstral
() --> Texcat () --> Gamma Emerald ()
Creature (8): Texcat () -->
Lalendra
() --> Texcat () --> Myloninja13 () --> Texcat () -->
Lalendra
() --> Kublai Khan () -->
Lalendra
()
Kublai Khan (7): Creature () -->
Lalendra
() --> TehBrawlGuy () --> Creature () -->
Lalendra
() --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Lalendra
()
Hopkirk (3):
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Gamma Emerald (3):
Lalendra
() --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 ()
Ausuka
(4): Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Lalendra
(3): TehBrawlGuy () --> Myloninja13 () --> Creature ()
Tchill13 (3):
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Frozen Angel (0):
Skygazer (1):
Lalendra
()
JarJarDrinks (5): Creature () --> (Null) () -->
Lalendra
() -->
Dunnstral
() -->
Lalendra
()
Ankamius (3):
Lalendra
() --> (Null) () --> Creature ()
Texcat (1): Myloninja13 ()
TehBrawlGuy (4): JarJarDrinks () --> Texcat () --> Creature () --> Gamma Emerald ()
Vaxkiller (3): Kublai Khan () --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Wavemode (2): TehBrawlGuy () -->
Lalendra
() --> Ankamius (^)
PenguinPower
(3): Texcat () --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Myloninja13 (2):
Dunnstral
() --> Creature ()
Scioness Sajj (3): Texcat () --> Creature () -->
Lalendra
(*)

Day 2
Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral
(4): Myloninja13 () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
PenguinPower
() --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk () --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() --> Scioness Sajj () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Creature () -->
WhemeStar
() --> Wavemode () --> Scioness Sajj () --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Pine (1): Andriod18 ()
Creature (3): Myloninja13 () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
(*)
Kublai Khan (5):
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
()
WhemeStar
(4): Vaxkiller () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Flavor Leaf
() -->
PenguinPower
()
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 () --> Kublai Khan () --> (Null) () ==> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan () --> Golden Robster () --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
()
Ausuka
(7):
PenguinPower
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 () --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
WhemeStar
()
Lalendra
(7): Vaxkiller () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
()
EspeciallyTheLies (1):
PenguinPower
()
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 () --> EspeciallyTheLies () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 () -->
WhemeStar
()
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks () --> Kublai Khan ()
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 () --> Myloninja13 ()
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat ()
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) () --> Wavemode () -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Vaxkiller (5):
WhemeStar
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
() -->
PenguinPower
()
Wavemode (6): Texcat () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
() ==>
WhemeStar
()
PenguinPower
(7): Myloninja13 () --> Kublai Khan () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> Myloninja13 () --> Golden Robster () --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Myloninja13 (1):
PenguinPower
()
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 () -->
WhemeStar
() -->
PenguinPower
()
Flavor Leaf
(5): JarJarDrinks () --> Kublai Khan () -->
PenguinPower
() --> Golden Robster () -->
WhemeStar
()

Day 1
Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral
(5):
Osuka
() --> Texcat () -->
Lalendra
() -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
Srceenplay
(0): (Null)
Performer
(5):
Osuka
() -->
TheRampage
() --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 () -->
Performer
()*
Joral
(0): (Null)
Almost50
(8): Hopkirk () --> Edosurist () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka
() --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 ()
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):
Almost50
() --> Wavemode () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka ()
--> JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Wavemode () --> (Null) () --> ArcAngel9 () --> Andriod18 () --> (Null) ()
Pine (2):
Osuka
() --> Andriod18 ()
Creature (6):
Performer
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
TheRampage
() -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 () -->
Performer
()
Kublai Khan (6):
Osuka
() -->
Almost50
() --> Scioness Sajj () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
WhemeStar
(3):
Lalendra
() --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Flavor Leaf
()
Hopkirk (9):
Osuka
() -->
Lalendra
() -->
Osuka
() --> (Null) () --> Wavemode () -->
Performer
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Edosurist (2): Texcat () -->
Almost50
()
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller () --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 () --> (Null) ()^
Ausuka
(9): JarJarDrinks () --> Creature () --> Myloninja13 () --> (Null) () -->
TheRampage
() --> Wavemode () -->
Performer
() -->
Lalendra
() --> Andriod18 ()
Lalendra
(3):
Almost50
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
()
EspeciallyTheLies (2):
Almost50
() -->
Performer
()
Lovebird (1): Edosurist ()
Davesaz (1): Wavemode ()
Frozen Angel (3):
Performer
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
()
JarJarDrinks (8):
Osuka
() -->
Almost50
() --> Charles510 () --> Edosurist () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka
() --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 ()
Osuka
(10): Wavemode () --> JarJarDrinks () --> ArcAngel9 () --> Pine () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
() -->
TheRampage
() -->
Performer
() --> Vaxkiller () -->
Performer
()
Texcat (4):
Osuka
() --> Wavemode () -->
Osuka
() --> Andriod18 ()
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan () --> Lovebird () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
()
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat () -->
TheRampage
() --> Texcat () -->
Performer
()
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) ()
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks () --> Scioness Sajj () --> Andriod18 () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Golden Robster () --> Wavemode () -->
TheRampage
() -->
Performer
()
Wavemode (5): Texcat () --> Charles510 () --> (Null) () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
TheRampage
(3): Creature () --> (Null) () -->
Osuka
()
PenguinPower
(1):
Performer
()
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Scioness Sajj (4):
Ausuka
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Flavor Leaf
(1): Andriod18 ()

Pre-Game
Dunnstral
(2): Texcat () --> Pine ()
Srceenplay
(1): Andriod18 ()
Pine (1):
Osuka
()
Kublai Khan (1): Pine ()
Hopkirk (1):
Osuka
()
Edosurist (1): Pine ()
Osuka
(2): Pine () --> Wavemode ()
Texcat (1): Pine ()
Wavemode (1):
Osuka
()
Last edited by Ircher on Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:12 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Post Post #5379 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:56 pm

Post by wavemode »

Krazy plays off the hammer as accidental but I believe he knew full well what he was doing:
In post 5077, Krazy wrote:
In post 5075, Golden Robster wrote:it's not hammer tchill unvoted

shhhh
In post 5079, Ircher wrote:
Day 4 VC #13
Dunnstral (9) (L-1) - JarJarDrinks (), Creature (), PenguinPower (), Texcat (), Gamma Emerald (), Skygazer (), Golden Robster (), Myloninja13 (), Wavemode ()

Golden Robster (1) - Hopkirk ()
Krazy (1) - Ankamius ()
Gamma Emerald (1) - Krazy ()
Tchill13 (0) -
Texcat (2) - Dunnstral (), TehBrawlGuy ()
Vaxkiller (0) -
Scioness Sajj (1) - Vaxkiller ()
Not Voting (3) - Kublai Khan, Scioness Sajj (), Tchill13 ()

Lynch ThresholdDuring day 4, it takes 10 votes to lynch a player.

DeadlineDay 4 ends on August 2, 2018 5:30 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-08-02 17:30:00).

Moderator NotesIf you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
Golden Robster is V/LA until August 1.
You are expected to post at least once every 4 days.

If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History
Dunnstral: Texcat ()
Golden Robster: Scioness Sajj () --> Dunnstral ()
Krazy: Texcat () --> Gamma Emerald ()
Creature: Scioness Sajj () --> Texcat () --> Dunnstral ()
Hopkirk: Scioness Sajj () --> (Null) () --> Scioness Sajj () --> Vaxkiller () --> Golden Robster ()
Gamma Emerald: Dunnstral ()
Tchill13: Scioness Sajj () --> Dunnstral () --> Scioness Sajj () --> Dunnstral () --> (Null) ()
Skygazer: Scioness Sajj () --> Texcat () --> (Null) () --> Dunnstral ()
JarJarDrinks: Scioness Sajj () --> Dunnstral ()
Ankamius: Tchill13 () --> Texcat () --> Krazy ()
Texcat: Dunnstral ()
TehBrawlGuy: Texcat ()
Vaxkiller: Scioness Sajj ()
Wavemode: Scioness Sajj () --> Dunnstral ()
PenguinPower: Scioness Sajj () --> Dunnstral ()
Myloninja13: Dunnstral () --> Gamma Emerald () --> Dunnstral ()
Scioness Sajj: Texcat () --> (Null) ()

Spoiler: Previous Voting History
Day 3
* - Hammer vote
^ - Vote occurred after hammer

Dunnstral (2): Myloninja13 () --> Texcat ()
Golden Robster (3): Dunnstral () --> TehBrawlGuy () --> Creature ()
Pine (0):
Krazy (3): Dunnstral () --> Texcat () --> Gamma Emerald ()
Creature (8): Texcat () -->
Lalendra
() --> Texcat () --> Myloninja13 () --> Texcat () -->
Lalendra
() --> Kublai Khan () -->
Lalendra
()
Kublai Khan (7): Creature () -->
Lalendra
() --> TehBrawlGuy () --> Creature () -->
Lalendra
() --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Lalendra
()
Hopkirk (3):
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Gamma Emerald (3):
Lalendra
() --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 ()
Ausuka
(4): Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Lalendra
(3): TehBrawlGuy () --> Myloninja13 () --> Creature ()
Tchill13 (3):
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Frozen Angel (0):
Skygazer (1):
Lalendra
()
JarJarDrinks (5): Creature () --> (Null) () -->
Lalendra
() --> Dunnstral () -->
Lalendra
()
Ankamius (3):
Lalendra
() --> (Null) () --> Creature ()
Texcat (1): Myloninja13 ()
TehBrawlGuy (4): JarJarDrinks () --> Texcat () --> Creature () --> Gamma Emerald ()
Vaxkiller (3): Kublai Khan () --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Wavemode (2): TehBrawlGuy () -->
Lalendra
() --> Ankamius (^)
PenguinPower (3): Texcat () --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Myloninja13 (2): Dunnstral () --> Creature ()
Scioness Sajj (3): Texcat () --> Creature () -->
Lalendra
(*)

Day 2
Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral (4): Myloninja13 () --> JarJarDrinks () --> PenguinPower () --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk () --> (Null) () --> PenguinPower () --> Scioness Sajj () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Creature () -->
WhemeStar
() --> Wavemode () --> Scioness Sajj () --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> PenguinPower () -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Pine (1): Andriod18 ()
Creature (3): Myloninja13 () --> PenguinPower () -->
WhemeStar
(*)
Kublai Khan (5):
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> PenguinPower () -->
WhemeStar
()
WhemeStar
(4): Vaxkiller () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> PenguinPower ()
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 () --> Kublai Khan () --> (Null) () ==> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan () --> Golden Robster () --> (Null) () --> PenguinPower () -->
WhemeStar
()
Ausuka
(7): PenguinPower () --> Myloninja13 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 () --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
WhemeStar
()
Lalendra
(7): Vaxkiller () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> PenguinPower () -->
WhemeStar
()
EspeciallyTheLies (1): PenguinPower ()
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 () --> EspeciallyTheLies () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 () -->
WhemeStar
()
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks () --> Kublai Khan ()
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 () --> Myloninja13 ()
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat ()
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) () --> Wavemode () -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Vaxkiller (5):
WhemeStar
() --> Myloninja13 () --> PenguinPower () -->
WhemeStar
() --> PenguinPower ()
Wavemode (6): Texcat () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
() ==>
WhemeStar
()
PenguinPower (7): Myloninja13 () --> Kublai Khan () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> Myloninja13 () --> Golden Robster () --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Myloninja13 (1): PenguinPower ()
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 () -->
WhemeStar
() --> PenguinPower ()
Flavor Leaf
(5): JarJarDrinks () --> Kublai Khan () --> PenguinPower () --> Golden Robster () -->
WhemeStar
()

Day 1
Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):
Osuka
() --> Texcat () -->
Lalendra
() -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
Srceenplay
(0): (Null)
Performer
(5):
Osuka
() --> TheRampage () --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 () -->
Performer
()*
Joral
(0): (Null)
Almost50
(8): Hopkirk () --> Edosurist () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka
() --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 ()
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):
Almost50
() --> Wavemode () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka ()
--> JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Wavemode () --> (Null) () --> ArcAngel9 () --> Andriod18 () --> (Null) ()
Pine (2):
Osuka
() --> Andriod18 ()
Creature (6):
Performer
() --> Myloninja13 () --> TheRampage () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 () -->
Performer
()
Kublai Khan (6):
Osuka
() -->
Almost50
() --> Scioness Sajj () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
WhemeStar
(3):
Lalendra
() --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Flavor Leaf
()
Hopkirk (9):
Osuka
() -->
Lalendra
() -->
Osuka
() --> (Null) () --> Wavemode () -->
Performer
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Edosurist (2): Texcat () -->
Almost50
()
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller () --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 () --> (Null) ()^
Ausuka
(9): JarJarDrinks () --> Creature () --> Myloninja13 () --> (Null) () --> TheRampage () --> Wavemode () -->
Performer
() -->
Lalendra
() --> Andriod18 ()
Lalendra
(3):
Almost50
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
()
EspeciallyTheLies (2):
Almost50
() -->
Performer
()
Lovebird (1): Edosurist ()
Davesaz (1): Wavemode ()
Frozen Angel (3):
Performer
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
()
JarJarDrinks (8):
Osuka
() -->
Almost50
() --> Charles510 () --> Edosurist () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka
() --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 ()
Osuka
(10): Wavemode () --> JarJarDrinks () --> ArcAngel9 () --> Pine () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
() --> TheRampage () -->
Performer
() --> Vaxkiller () -->
Performer
()
Texcat (4):
Osuka
() --> Wavemode () -->
Osuka
() --> Andriod18 ()
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan () --> Lovebird () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
()
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat () --> TheRampage () --> Texcat () -->
Performer
()
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) ()
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks () --> Scioness Sajj () --> Andriod18 () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Golden Robster () --> Wavemode () --> TheRampage () -->
Performer
()
Wavemode (5): Texcat () --> Charles510 () --> (Null) () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
TheRampage (3): Creature () --> (Null) () -->
Osuka
()
PenguinPower (1):
Performer
()
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Scioness Sajj (4):
Ausuka
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Flavor Leaf
(1): Andriod18 ()

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Post Post #5380 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:00 pm

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In post 5351, Krazy wrote:Nope.

Agreeing with reasonable positions isn't scummy, and people get annoyed when you call them scummy for things that aren't scummy, particularly if they think you're town too.

Like, this is mafia, this isn't always disagree all the time for the sake of disagreeing all the time. If town can never agree with other towns we have a problem.
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Post Post #5381 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:02 pm

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In post 5341, Krazy wrote:Can you be specific on which posts from Gamma make you think Gamma is town
read my
In post 5341, Krazy wrote:or that you characterize as defending?
are you actually going to claim that is not a defense of wheme?
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Post Post #5382 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:04 pm

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In post 5376, Tchill13 wrote:so you had lalendra and dunn lock town?

if anything their town flips tell us we don't know how scum interacted with that wagon. So you can't lock scum someone or town clear someone for it.
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Post Post #5383 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:17 pm

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In post 5380, Ankamius wrote:
In post 5351, Krazy wrote:Nope.

Agreeing with reasonable positions isn't scummy, and people get annoyed when you call them scummy for things that aren't scummy, particularly if they think you're town too.

Like, this is mafia, this isn't always disagree all the time for the sake of disagreeing all the time. If town can never agree with other towns we have a problem.
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Post Post #5384 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:22 pm

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they're not scummy separately

they're scummy together
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Post Post #5385 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:18 pm

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In post 5377, wavemode wrote:
In post 5115, Krazy wrote:Apologies for shitty hammer. I will try not to vote when I'm not at home and actually double check the count 0.o

Hop, I meta'd Mylo, and I think this game fits his town meta more than his scum meta. Town meta is lots of lynchbaity short posts, scum meta is fewer longer posts.

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Why is Krazy playing off the hammer vote? In addition to what wavemode posted, I had also posted that I was ready to hammer (with Krazy posts both before and after so he read it for sure).
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Post Post #5386 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:22 pm

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In post 5381, wavemode wrote:
In post 5341, Krazy wrote:Can you be specific on which posts from Gamma make you think Gamma is town
read my
In post 5341, Krazy wrote:or that you characterize as defending?
are you actually going to claim that is not a defense of wheme?
No, there were just multiple points where my top fos defended the confirmed scum before they faked commitment to the wagon before backtracking again and seeing if maybe the lynch might be cancelled.

It is a defense, it doesn't make Gamma any better though.

It seems like a lot of your defense of Gamma hinges on a game you played where they were not like they are in this game. Have you looked at more games beyond that one?

It also seems like you think Gamma is town because he is "indecisive" and "aggressive" -- in what sense has gamma been aggressive for the last two days? It seems like he has been straight up active lurking while sheeping leading wagons for the whole last two days. As for indecisive... Gamma has voted like, maybe 6 people this game? Of which includes Lalendra (with a weak sheep vote) and PP (who is confirmed town). There's also Mylo, which reads to me as opportunism on lynchbait town. Where is the scumhunting? Where is this aggressiveness that makes Gamma town? Because frankly I just don't see it. It seems more like Gamma is perfectly happy to throw his vote on the leading wagon and sit there until it results in a mislynch. How is that indecisive?

If you want to really meta Gamma, then let's meta Gamma. I'm not the biggest fan of meta, but yolo.

Vanilla town -- look at the frequency of vote movement and the different pushes --> this is town Gamma:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

Town Gamma -- look at frequency of vote movement and different pushes, again town Gamma:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

TPR, still more pushing and vote frequency than here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

If you wanted to make the counter-argument, Gamma this game is playing a bit closer to this: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

So town Gamma CAN be passive, but USUALLY is aggressive with frequent pushes and high vote change frequency. To that extent, meta in this case leans NAI but suggest Gamma is not playing to his town meta in any clear or discernible way.

Scum Gamma -- kind of an unusual game tho so not sure if helpful, but it does line up with more unvotes, fewer pushes: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

Scum Gamma -- slightly fewer votes, and also noticeably less explanation behind the votes or associated pushing: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

So let's review:

Gamma is not obviously town from a meta reading. There is one game where Gamma plays a bit similarly to this, but most of his town games look pretty different. Additionally, from a meta reading, Gamma could be plausibly scum. This is not significantly different from Gamma's scum play in previous cases.

So if your argument is that I am scummy because I think Gamma is scummy because of your meta read that Gamma is town, I strongly encourage you to look at a wider sample size of Gamma's games than just the one you were in. At the very least, you should recognize that another participant in this game is not going to look at Gamma and say "Oh yes, based on meta this person is town." People in this game are first going to look at what people in this game are doing.

Beyond that, meta is weak. Look at Gamma's reads, votes, and overall portfolio in this game. The votes on Lalendra and Dunn had little reasoning and were largely opportunistic. Beyond that, the slot is mostly active lurking while occasionally casting shade or goading me. If you really believe Gamma would not bus Wheme, I can respect that. That's a critical decision point, but don't assume that I'm scum if we disagree on that matter.

As for Gamma being wishy washy while Wheme was up... yeah, I think Scum-Gamma would have been willing to get off the wagon if he could have done so and it not look shady if someone else hammered.

-I think he tested the wagon by asking for its reasoning while on PP
-He recognized PP had stalled and Wheme was probably the lynch for the day, so he bussed to active lurk for a few more game days while probably not getting lynched
-When there were some delays on Wheme, he thought maybe he could throw some shade and get off without ever actively defending Wheme, only questioning other people's reasoning for suspicion. He never argues Wheme is town after the bus. It's testing the waters to see if he could get off, so yeah, I don't really see it as defending that much. Look at how TBG and Ank defend Dunn yesterday. They argue that the slot is TOWN. They don't say, "well, your reasons for voting this person seem kinda NAI." It looks more like Gamma was setting up a rationale to leave the wagon without ever actively defending Wheme. This seems more passive and cautionary than aggressive, which fits Gamma's scum profile more than his town profile.

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Post Post #5387 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:27 pm

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Why did I apologize for a hammer that dropped while Hopkirk was in the middle of discussing Mylo and I was in the middle of asking Ank why he was so convinced on his townread? Gee I don't know, maybe because there were still things under discussion. The day was not done, it was a shitty hammer.
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Post Post #5388 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:44 pm

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In post 5382, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
In post 5376, Tchill13 wrote:so you had lalendra and dunn lock town?

if anything their town flips tell us we don't know how scum interacted with that wagon. So you can't lock scum someone or town clear someone for it.
I'm your biggest scum read and you don't know where I stood on the last two lynches?
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Post Post #5389 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:21 pm

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In post 5388, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 5382, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
In post 5376, Tchill13 wrote:so you had lalendra and dunn lock town?

if anything their town flips tell us we don't know how scum interacted with that wagon. So you can't lock scum someone or town clear someone for it.
I'm your biggest scum read and you don't know where I stood on the last two lynches?
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Yeah, I would.

If you're not paying enough attention to know my reads on them despite me being your biggest scumread, and you can't open my iso and ctrl-f "dunn" or "lala", what am I going to gain from engaging with you? It's not my job to spoon feed you basic level content that you can get yourself.

Like, I think you're Town, but your reads and posts have been abysmal distractions. I want your shit to get shot down so those of us actually paying attention to the game can maybe solve it.
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Post Post #5390 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:37 pm

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I've been paying attention. Pretty clearly I might add.

I'm enjoying the way you're handling this though.
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Post Post #5391 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:49 pm

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Ay, I'm back once more!
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Post Post #5392 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:03 pm

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Mylo, join us on Gamma! <3
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Post Post #5393 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:14 pm

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Sky what do you think of Gamma?
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Post Post #5394 (ISO) » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:54 pm

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I guess so...

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Post Post #5395 (ISO) » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:18 am

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Yo

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Post Post #5396 (ISO) » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:19 am

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Yey wave is finally towning
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Post Post #5397 (ISO) » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:27 am

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #5398 (ISO) » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:27 am

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tbh if there's 5 scum left this game's pretty scumsided
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Post Post #5399 (ISO) » Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:05 am

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In post 5394, Myloninja13 wrote:I guess so...

VOTE: Gamma
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