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Post Post #5675 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:42 am

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Day 5 VC #12Golden Robster (1) - Gamma Emerald ()
Krazy (0) -
Gamma Emerald (2) - Krazy (), Myloninja13 ()
JarJarDrinks (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (6) (L-3) - Tchill13 (), Golden Robster (), JarJarDrinks (), Kublai Khan (), Wavemode (), Ankamius ()

Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (0) -
Myloninja13 (1) - Scioness Sajj ()
Scioness Sajj (5) - Creature (), Skygazer (), Hopkirk (), Vaxkiller (), TehBrawlGuy ()

Not Voting (1) - Texcat

Lynch ThresholdDuring day 5, it takes 9 votes to lynch a player.

DeadlineDay 5 ends on August 8, 2018 8:45 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-08-08 20:45:00).

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Spoiler: Current Voting History
Golden Robster: TehBrawlGuy ()
Krazy: Gamma Emerald ()
Creature: Gamma Emerald () --> Scioness Sajj ()
Kublai Khan: Wavemode () --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Hopkirk: Krazy () --> Scioness Sajj ()
Gamma Emerald: Golden Robster ()
Tchill13: Vaxkiller () --> TehBrawlGuy () ==> TehBrawlGuy ()
Skygazer: Wavemode () --> (Null) () --> Scioness Sajj ()
JarJarDrinks: TehBrawlGuy ()
Ankamius: Wavemode () --> TehBrawlGuy ()
TehBrawlGuy: JarJarDrinks () --> Wavemode () --> Scioness Sajj ()
Vaxkiller: Krazy () --> Gamma Emerald () --> Scioness Sajj ()
Wavemode: Krazy () --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Myloninja13: Gamma Emerald ()
Scioness Sajj: Gamma Emerald () --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 ()

Spoiler: Previous Voting History
Day 4
* - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral
(1): Texcat ()
Golden Robster (2): Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
()
Krazy (3): Texcat () --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Dunnstral
(*)
Creature (3): Scioness Sajj () --> Texcat () -->
Dunnstral
()
Hopkirk (5): Scioness Sajj () --> (Null) () --> Scioness Sajj () --> Vaxkiller () --> Golden Robster ()
Gamma Emerald (1):
Dunnstral
()
Tchill13 (6): Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
() --> Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
() --> (Null) () --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Skygazer (4): Scioness Sajj () --> Texcat () --> (Null) () -->
Dunnstral
()
JarJarDrinks (2): Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
()
Ankamius (3): Tchill13 () --> Texcat () --> Krazy ()
Texcat (1):
Dunnstral
()
TehBrawlGuy (1): Texcat ()
Vaxkiller (1): Scioness Sajj ()
Wavemode (2): Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
()
PenguinPower
(2): Scioness Sajj () -->
Dunnstral
()
Myloninja13 (3):
Dunnstral
() --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Dunnstral
()
Scioness Sajj (2): Texcat () --> (Null) ()

Day 3
* - Hammer vote
^ - Vote occurred after hammer

Dunnstral
(2): Myloninja13 () --> Texcat ()
Golden Robster (3):
Dunnstral
() --> TehBrawlGuy () --> Creature ()
Pine (0):
Krazy (3):
Dunnstral
() --> Texcat () --> Gamma Emerald ()
Creature (8): Texcat () -->
Lalendra
() --> Texcat () --> Myloninja13 () --> Texcat () -->
Lalendra
() --> Kublai Khan () -->
Lalendra
()
Kublai Khan (7): Creature () -->
Lalendra
() --> TehBrawlGuy () --> Creature () -->
Lalendra
() --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Lalendra
()
Hopkirk (3):
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Gamma Emerald (3):
Lalendra
() --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 ()
Ausuka
(4): Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Lalendra
(3): TehBrawlGuy () --> Myloninja13 () --> Creature ()
Tchill13 (3):
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Frozen Angel (0):
Skygazer (1):
Lalendra
()
JarJarDrinks (5): Creature () --> (Null) () -->
Lalendra
() -->
Dunnstral
() -->
Lalendra
()
Ankamius (3):
Lalendra
() --> (Null) () --> Creature ()
Texcat (1): Myloninja13 ()
TehBrawlGuy (4): JarJarDrinks () --> Texcat () --> Creature () --> Gamma Emerald ()
Vaxkiller (3): Kublai Khan () --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Wavemode (2): TehBrawlGuy () -->
Lalendra
() --> Ankamius (^)
PenguinPower
(3): Texcat () --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Myloninja13 (2):
Dunnstral
() --> Creature ()
Scioness Sajj (3): Texcat () --> Creature () -->
Lalendra
(*)

Day 2
Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral
(4): Myloninja13 () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
PenguinPower
() --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk () --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() --> Scioness Sajj () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Creature () -->
WhemeStar
() --> Wavemode () --> Scioness Sajj () --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Pine (1): Andriod18 ()
Creature (3): Myloninja13 () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
(*)
Kublai Khan (5):
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
()
WhemeStar
(4): Vaxkiller () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Flavor Leaf
() -->
PenguinPower
()
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 () --> Kublai Khan () --> (Null) () ==> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan () --> Golden Robster () --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
()
Ausuka
(7):
PenguinPower
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 () --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
WhemeStar
()
Lalendra
(7): Vaxkiller () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
()
EspeciallyTheLies (1):
PenguinPower
()
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 () --> EspeciallyTheLies () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 () -->
WhemeStar
()
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks () --> Kublai Khan ()
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 () --> Myloninja13 ()
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat ()
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) () --> Wavemode () -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Vaxkiller (5):
WhemeStar
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
() -->
PenguinPower
()
Wavemode (6): Texcat () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
() ==>
WhemeStar
()
PenguinPower
(7): Myloninja13 () --> Kublai Khan () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> Myloninja13 () --> Golden Robster () --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Myloninja13 (1):
PenguinPower
()
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 () -->
WhemeStar
() -->
PenguinPower
()
Flavor Leaf
(5): JarJarDrinks () --> Kublai Khan () -->
PenguinPower
() --> Golden Robster () -->
WhemeStar
()

Day 1
Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral
(5):
Osuka
() --> Texcat () -->
Lalendra
() -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
Srceenplay
(0): (Null)
Performer
(5):
Osuka
() -->
TheRampage
() --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 () -->
Performer
()*
Joral
(0): (Null)
Almost50
(8): Hopkirk () --> Edosurist () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka
() --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 ()
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):
Almost50
() --> Wavemode () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka ()
--> JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Wavemode () --> (Null) () --> ArcAngel9 () --> Andriod18 () --> (Null) ()
Pine (2):
Osuka
() --> Andriod18 ()
Creature (6):
Performer
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
TheRampage
() -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 () -->
Performer
()
Kublai Khan (6):
Osuka
() -->
Almost50
() --> Scioness Sajj () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
WhemeStar
(3):
Lalendra
() --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Flavor Leaf
()
Hopkirk (9):
Osuka
() -->
Lalendra
() -->
Osuka
() --> (Null) () --> Wavemode () -->
Performer
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Edosurist (2): Texcat () -->
Almost50
()
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller () --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 () --> (Null) ()^
Ausuka
(9): JarJarDrinks () --> Creature () --> Myloninja13 () --> (Null) () -->
TheRampage
() --> Wavemode () -->
Performer
() -->
Lalendra
() --> Andriod18 ()
Lalendra
(3):
Almost50
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
()
EspeciallyTheLies (2):
Almost50
() -->
Performer
()
Lovebird (1): Edosurist ()
Davesaz (1): Wavemode ()
Frozen Angel (3):
Performer
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
()
JarJarDrinks (8):
Osuka
() -->
Almost50
() --> Charles510 () --> Edosurist () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka
() --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 ()
Osuka
(10): Wavemode () --> JarJarDrinks () --> ArcAngel9 () --> Pine () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
() -->
TheRampage
() -->
Performer
() --> Vaxkiller () -->
Performer
()
Texcat (4):
Osuka
() --> Wavemode () -->
Osuka
() --> Andriod18 ()
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan () --> Lovebird () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
()
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat () -->
TheRampage
() --> Texcat () -->
Performer
()
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) ()
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks () --> Scioness Sajj () --> Andriod18 () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Golden Robster () --> Wavemode () -->
TheRampage
() -->
Performer
()
Wavemode (5): Texcat () --> Charles510 () --> (Null) () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
TheRampage
(3): Creature () --> (Null) () -->
Osuka
()
PenguinPower
(1):
Performer
()
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Scioness Sajj (4):
Ausuka
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Flavor Leaf
(1): Andriod18 ()

Pre-Game
Dunnstral
(2): Texcat () --> Pine ()
Srceenplay
(1): Andriod18 ()
Pine (1):
Osuka
()
Kublai Khan (1): Pine ()
Hopkirk (1):
Osuka
()
Edosurist (1): Pine ()
Osuka
(2): Pine () --> Wavemode ()
Texcat (1): Pine ()
Wavemode (1):
Osuka
()
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Post Post #5676 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:57 am

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In post 5670, Gamma Emerald wrote:It felt like you didn't have any sort of idea of what you were doing
which I'd maybe expect from a newb too but you're not a newb, and maybe if your really bad at it but it just seems like scum that just wanted to throw shit at a wall and see if it stuck
why would a fake guilty be more likely to come from a newb than an experienced player?

what do you mean throw shit at a wall?

why are you throwing shade at me without a convincing argument?
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Post Post #5677 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:58 am

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if all of your argument hinges on a gut feeling of dissonance then you're wrong and bad at the same time
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Post Post #5678 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:46 pm

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Scion wagon is way townier
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #5679 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:31 pm

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In post 5658, Krazy wrote:I was mostly wondering whether you thought scion really fit a scum team well. I have mixed feelings on his slot, and I dislike having mixed feelings on a leading wagon.

I'm pretty sure if town keeps lynching literally everyone who has ever voted texcat that this town loses to some of the lowest effort scum ever, but that's their perogative.

Scion is like:
-meta does not fit his town profile (this is shit, but he seems super disengaged compared to the wallposts he is clearly capable of)
-mylo vote is shitty and kinda opportunistic

vs.
-he doesn't fit texcat team well
-town is helping scum lynch everyone who has ever voted texcat
-I have no idea what to make of his vote for wheme, but it almost looks 'too scummy to be scum'

Not sure how to sort that. While I have other townreads at the moment, their judgement seems shitty, so you're the only person in this game who actually seems to be making good points and is also clearly town. So do you think scion is scum? Because if so, I'd like help sorting him. And if not, we need to figure out a different wagon.
please try using she when you talk about me, i get confused when you use masculine pronoun.

What's shitty about my vote on Mylo? He did 180 on me, with no reasoning given.
Which actually points back to... Gamma(?) idk what wagons where happening back then.
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Post Post #5680 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:32 pm

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tbg more so actually, well that suits me

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy
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Post Post #5681 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:32 pm

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In post 5678, Vaxkiller wrote:Scion wagon is way townier
who's not towny on tbg wagon?

besides me
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Post Post #5682 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:42 pm

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we have two day and, good news, there has to be scum on leading wagons (regardless of flips) so flip one of us and tomorrow start looking from there.
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Post Post #5683 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:03 pm

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Vote Tchill13
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Post Post #5684 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:10 pm

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Gamma/Texcat/Tchill/GR

That's my solve attempt for the night, going to bed.
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Post Post #5685 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:39 am

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In post 5683, Krazy wrote:Tchill
no, this isn't where you're voting today. Please try again.
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Post Post #5686 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:50 am

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In post 5682, Scioness Sajj wrote:we have two day and, good news, there has to be scum on leading wagons (regardless of flips) so flip one of us and tomorrow start looking from there.
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Post Post #5687 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:54 am

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Can we gat a vote and/or intent on TBG so they can claim already? 2 days left.
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Post Post #5688 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:55 am

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Honestly I'd love it is SS and TBG would just both go ahead and claim at this point.
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Post Post #5689 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:35 am

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VOTE: TBG
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Post Post #5690 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:45 am

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In post 5676, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 5670, Gamma Emerald wrote:It felt like you didn't have any sort of idea of what you were doing
which I'd maybe expect from a newb too but you're not a newb, and maybe if your really bad at it but it just seems like scum that just wanted to throw shit at a wall and see if it stuck
why would a fake guilty be more likely to come from a newb than an experienced player?

what do you mean throw shit at a wall?

why are you throwing shade at me without a convincing argument?
I didn't say it would be more likely from a newb? That's plain taking my post out of context. I said I'd expect the bad method from a newb since they wouldn't even have practice with a real guilty most likely.
Throwing shit at a wall means you're just trying things and seeing what works. That's a common idiom in English, at least around here, you should know that.
In post 5677, Golden Robster wrote:if all of your argument hinges on a gut feeling of dissonance then you're wrong and bad at the same time
And I love how you act like this is the only part of why I'm scumreading you. This just makes me feel even better about my vote.
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Post Post #5691 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:02 am

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VT
I don't have anything to put here because my normal signature is images. Weeeeee.
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Post Post #5692 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:03 am

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VOTE: Scioness Sajj
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Post Post #5693 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:34 am

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GLORY TO THE HAMMER BROTHERS

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy
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Post Post #5694 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:36 am

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In post 5692, JarJarDrinks wrote:VOTE: Scioness Sajj
Ank sorry but you missed it
Also this makes me not very pleased with JJD
hey tbg can you quote your JJD case again so I can comb through it real quick, there's some stuff I'm thinking I might see and if I do I'll probably go with you on that
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Post Post #5695 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:37 am

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Post Post #5696 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:39 am

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JJD is probably scum for making my fakehammer not look cool

but is also probably just scum anyways
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Post Post #5697 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:57 am

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lol

not claiming before intent
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Post Post #5698 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:06 am

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My gut says TBG is town tbh
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Post Post #5699 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:54 am

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In post 5694, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 5692, JarJarDrinks wrote:VOTE: Scioness Sajj
Ank sorry but you missed it
Also this makes me not very pleased with JJD
hey tbg can you quote your JJD case again so I can comb through it real quick, there's some stuff I'm thinking I might see and if I do I'll probably go with you on that
here are the most important posts
In post 5212, TehBrawlGuy wrote:I pretty much agree with your assessment of Wheme. Take a look at this post I made at the start of D3.
In post 3466, TehBrawlGuy wrote:VOTE: JJD

I had my suspicions anyway, but Wheme ISO really nails it down for me. Wheme only ever votes for 4 people past the early voting chaos. Vax, PP, Flavor Leaf, and JJD.
FL is dead and Town, PP is very likely Town after yesterday. If Wheme did any bussing, it would have to be in Vax or JJD.

Vax he HARD townreads all of D1, until suddenly flipping on him, saying this:
In post 2245, WhemeStar wrote:Man I want jar jar lynched but VOTE: Vax
The vote count at the time was this:
In post 2239, Ircher wrote:
Day 2 VC #10Hopkirk (0) -
EspeciallyTheLies (0) -
JarJarDrinks (3) - , ,
Andriod18 (3) - , ,
Texcat (2) - ,
ArcAngel9 (1) -
Vaxkiller (2) - ,
PenguinPower (2) - ,
Myloninja13 (2) - ,
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Flavor Leaf (1) -
Not Voting (6) - Vaxkiller, Frozen Angel, Gamma Emerald, Scioness Sajj, Myloninja13, WhemeStar

Lynch ThresholdDuring day 2, it takes 12 votes to lynch a player.

DeadlineDay 2 ends on July 14, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-14 20:00:00).

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Day 1
Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5): --> --> --> -->
Srceenplay
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Performer
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Joral
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Almost50
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Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13): --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> [[ost=1798](Null) (1798)[/post]
Pine (2): -->
Creature (6): --> --> --> --> -->
Kublai Khan (6): --> --> --> --> -->
WhemeStar (3): --> -->
Hopkirk (9): --> --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Edosurist (2): -->
Gamma Emerald (3): --> --> --> ^
Ausuka
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Lalendra (3): --> -->
EspeciallyTheLies (2): -->
Lovebird (1):
Davesaz (1):
Frozen Angel (3): --> -->
JarJarDrinks (8): --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Osuka
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Texcat (4): --> --> -->
Andriod18 (4): --> --> -->
ArcAngel9 (4): --> --> -->
Charles510 (2): -->
Vaxkiller (8): --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Wavemode (5): --> --> --> -->
TheRampage (3): --> -->
PenguinPower (1):
Myloninja13 (4): --> --> -->
Scioness Sajj (4): --> --> -->
Flavor Leaf (1):

Pre-GameDunnstral (2): -->
Srceenplay
(1):
Pine (1):
Kublai Khan (1):
Hopkirk (1):
Edosurist (1):
Osuka
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Texcat (1):
Wavemode (1):
Voting JJD here establishes JJD as the lead wagon, with 4 votes, while voting Vax ties him with JJD and the rest at 3. This looks very much like Wheme!Scum not wanting to put a scumbuddy in peril - if he was setting up a mislynch on JJD, he could just vote JJD and nobody would really question it, since he'd been on JJD D1. It also doesn't make sense for him to flip on Vax if he's a scumbuddy, since he's been hard TRing Vax thus far.

In addition, he makes sure to mention several times just how much he thinks JJD is scum. (besides his votes on him)
In post 2120, WhemeStar wrote:
Jar jar is a good vote for now
In post 2245, WhemeStar wrote:Man I want jar jar lynched but VOTE: Vax
In post 3268, WhemeStar wrote:JarJar is prob scum


It's an obvious, clumsy bus. It's even more damning when you realize JJD is the only bus that makes sense out of Wheme's votes. Wheme's actions show JJD is also Scum.
We now know for certain that PP was Town, so any bus coming from Wheme would have to be Vax or JJD.

Vax bus doesn't make sense - as I say in the post, he was TRing Vax until then, and his vote tied Vax for the lead. It's too aggressive for Wheme, when he could play it safe and continue his TR of Vax.

JJD bus makes a ton of sense. He takes pressure
off
JJDWagon with his vote, but casts shade at JJD verbally (without actually doing anything) so he doesn't look weird for having backed up off his supposed scumread. I would call that a soft bus, wouldn't you? Put another way, if JJD was Town, why would Wheme drop him to 180 on Vax? He wouldn't - sticking on JJD would be the safer push.


In post 3474, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
In post 3467, texcat wrote:Whoa. You might be able to make a case that Wheme bussed JJD, but JJD was pushing Wheme's lynch hard. You think that was bussing too??
He didn't vote Wheme until the point where our only strong wagons were Wheme and PP. In his large readslist he had previously marked Wheme as Scum (and done nothing with it), and PP as a townlean, so he had essentially forced himself into that vote anyway. He didn't actually start pushing hard on Wheme until after Wheme's been run to L-1 and is the obvious lynch anyway. That's pretty textbook bussing.

Also, small bias here, but:
In post 3145, JarJarDrinks wrote:I didn't think TBG unvoting was scummy. I agree it's good to stay out of hammer length.

But I think the response to FL is kind of scummy. I read it as him very much wanting towncred for the lynch.
If JJD is Scum, he knows very well that Wheme is about to flip red and that I'd potentially get towncred for Wheme's flip.


In post 3480, TehBrawlGuy wrote: FL mason claim stuff also applies to JJD, who pushed for mason buddy Hopkirk to claim (I did too, but honestly we should both get scumpoints for that)

In post 5126, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
D3 Mislynch

Lalendra (11) (HAMMER @ 4577) - PenguinPower (3678), Wavemode (3716), JarJarDrinks (3721), Tchill13 (4215), Vaxkiller (4220), Creature (4284), Ausuka (4286), Hopkirk (4339), Kublai Khan (4557), Skygazer (4564), Scioness Sajj (4577*)

D4 Mislynch

Dunnstral (10) (HAMMER @ 5104) - JarJarDrinks (4815), Creature (4817), PenguinPower (4819), Texcat (4829), Gamma Emerald (4847), Skygazer (4973), Golden Robster (5019), Myloninja13 (5059), Wavemode (5071), Krazy (5104)


The subset of players on both mislynches is {Wavemode, JarJarDrinks,
PenguinPower
, Creature}. I think this is a pretty good place to start, and I'd prefer JJD or Wave. VOTE: JJD in particular has been pretty instrumental in our failed lynches. He even set up the awful Dunn lynch before Lala died.
In post 4476, JarJarDrinks wrote:Dunn is obviously next lynch after lala.
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