NY 213 - Game Over!

[Myloninja13]

Not sure who is more likely scum out of the top wagons lol. I think I maybe townread JJD? But I think I used to townread TBG and Sioness at one point but I can't remember why?

I think for now I'll just pick the wagon with the most people I like on it, so

VOTE: TheBrawlGuy

[Ircher]

Day 5 VC #16

Golden Robster (0) -
Krazy (0) -
Gamma Emerald (0) -
Tchill13 (0) -

JarJarDrinks (5) - Gamma Emerald (5703), TehBrawlGuy (5709), Ankamius (5713), Scioness Sajj (5714), Creature (5751)

Texcat (1) - Krazy (5721)

TehBrawlGuy (6) (L-3) - Tchill13 (5174), Golden Robster (5311), Kublai Khan (5520), Wavemode (5579), Texcat (5689), Myloninja13 (5775)

Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (0) -
Myloninja13 (0) -

Scioness Sajj (4) - Skygazer (5640), Hopkirk (5648), Vaxkiller (5649), JarJarDrinks (5692)

Not Voting (0) -

Lynch Threshold

During day 5, it takes 9 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 5 ends on August 8, 2018 8:45 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-08-08 20:45:00).

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Spoiler: Current Voting History

Golden Robster: TehBrawlGuy (5311)
Krazy: Gamma Emerald (5115) --> Tchill13 (5683) --> Texcat (5721)
Creature: Gamma Emerald (5397) --> Scioness Sajj (5577) --> JarJarDrinks (5751)
Kublai Khan: Wavemode (5305) --> TehBrawlGuy (5520)
Hopkirk: Krazy (5265) --> Scioness Sajj (5648)
Gamma Emerald: Golden Robster (5631) --> JarJarDrinks (5703)
Tchill13: Vaxkiller (5135) --> TehBrawlGuy (5139) ==> TehBrawlGuy (5174)
Skygazer: Wavemode (5439) --> (Null) (5480) --> Scioness Sajj (5640)
JarJarDrinks: TehBrawlGuy (5422) --> Scioness Sajj (5692)
Ankamius: Wavemode (5168) --> TehBrawlGuy (5643) ==> TehBrawlGuy (5693) --> JarJarDrinks (5713)
Texcat: TehBrawlGuy (5689)
TehBrawlGuy: JarJarDrinks (5126) --> Wavemode (5373) --> Scioness Sajj (5653) --> JarJarDrinks (5709)
Vaxkiller: Krazy (5118) --> Gamma Emerald (5121) --> Scioness Sajj (5649)
Wavemode: Krazy (5263) --> TehBrawlGuy (5579)
Myloninja13: Gamma Emerald (5394) --> TehBrawlGuy (5775)
Scioness Sajj: Gamma Emerald (5309) --> (Null) (5633) --> Myloninja13 (5642) --> TehBrawlGuy (5680) --> JarJarDrinks (5714)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 4

* - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral

(1): Texcat (4670)
Golden Robster (2): Scioness Sajj (4681) -->

Dunnstral

(5019)
Krazy (3): Texcat (4669) --> Gamma Emerald (4859) -->

Dunnstral

(5104*)
Creature (3): Scioness Sajj (4665) --> Texcat (4745) -->

Dunnstral

(4817)
Hopkirk (5): Scioness Sajj (4672) --> (Null) (4848) --> Scioness Sajj (4857) --> Vaxkiller (4992) --> Golden Robster (5062)
Gamma Emerald (1):

Dunnstral

(4847)
Tchill13 (6): Scioness Sajj (4707) -->

Dunnstral

(4822) --> Scioness Sajj (4863) -->

Dunnstral

(4988) --> (Null) (5064) --> TehBrawlGuy (5102)
Skygazer (4): Scioness Sajj (4717) --> Texcat (4888) --> (Null) (4894) -->

Dunnstral

(4973)
JarJarDrinks (2): Scioness Sajj (4674) -->

Dunnstral

(4815)
Ankamius (3): Tchill13 (4756) --> Texcat (5002) --> Krazy (5049)
Texcat (1):

Dunnstral

(4829)
TehBrawlGuy (1): Texcat (4710)
Vaxkiller (1): Scioness Sajj (4721)
Wavemode (2): Scioness Sajj (4854) -->

Dunnstral

(5071)

PenguinPower

(2): Scioness Sajj (4713) -->

Dunnstral

(4819)
Myloninja13 (3):

Dunnstral

(4837) --> Gamma Emerald (4965) -->

Dunnstral

(5059)
Scioness Sajj (2): Texcat (4675) --> (Null) (4895)

Day 3

* - Hammer vote
^ - Vote occurred after hammer

Dunnstral

(2): Myloninja13 (3463) --> Texcat (4162)
Golden Robster (3):

Dunnstral

(3559) --> TehBrawlGuy (4208) --> Creature (4255)
Pine (0):
Krazy (3):

Dunnstral

(3978) --> Texcat (4161) --> Gamma Emerald (4392)
Creature (8): Texcat (3472) -->

Lalendra

(3681) --> Texcat (3744) --> Myloninja13 (4013) --> Texcat (4165) -->

Lalendra

(4213) --> Kublai Khan (4260) -->

Lalendra

(4284)
Kublai Khan (7): Creature (3511) -->

Lalendra

(4033) --> TehBrawlGuy (4184) --> Creature (4240) -->

Lalendra

(4308) --> Gamma Emerald (4416) -->

Lalendra

(4557)
Hopkirk (3):

Lalendra

(3661) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4339)
Gamma Emerald (3):

Lalendra

(3913) --> (Null) (3954) --> Myloninja13 (4073)

Ausuka

(4): Myloninja13 (3640) -->

Lalendra

(3677) --> Myloninja13 (4010) -->

Lalendra

(4286)

Lalendra

(3): TehBrawlGuy (3719) --> Myloninja13 (4130) --> Creature (4384)
Tchill13 (3):

Lalendra

(3690) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4215)
Frozen Angel (0):
Skygazer (1):

Lalendra

(4564)
JarJarDrinks (5): Creature (3616) --> (Null) (3694) -->

Lalendra

(3695) -->

Dunnstral

(3704) -->

Lalendra

(3721)
Ankamius (3):

Lalendra

(3801) --> (Null) (4044) --> Creature (4239)
Texcat (1): Myloninja13 (3637)
TehBrawlGuy (4): JarJarDrinks (3466) --> Texcat (3790) --> Creature (4245) --> Gamma Emerald (4421)
Vaxkiller (3): Kublai Khan (4004) --> Myloninja13 (4214) -->

Lalendra

(4220)
Wavemode (2): TehBrawlGuy (3468) -->

Lalendra

(3716) --> _{Ankamius (4600^)}

PenguinPower

(3): Texcat (3473) --> Myloninja13 (3643) -->

Lalendra

(3678)
Myloninja13 (2):

Dunnstral

(3765) --> Creature (4252)
Scioness Sajj (3): Texcat (3756) --> Creature (4338) -->

Lalendra

(4577*)

Day 2

Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral

(4): Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206) -->

PenguinPower

(3242) --> TehBrawlGuy (3248)
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) -->

PenguinPower

(2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) -->

WhemeStar

(2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2642) --> (Null) (2783) -->

PenguinPower

(2979) -->

WhemeStar

(3099) --> (Null) (3284) -->

WhemeStar

(3286)
Pine (1): Andriod18 (1936)
Creature (3): Myloninja13 (1941) -->

PenguinPower

(2835) -->

WhemeStar

(3453*)
Kublai Khan (5):

Flavor Leaf

(1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) -->

PenguinPower

(2899) -->

WhemeStar

(3027)

WhemeStar

(4): Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2542) -->

PenguinPower

(2930)
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) -->

WhemeStar

(3008)
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) -->

PenguinPower

(2990) -->

WhemeStar

(3318)

Ausuka

(7):

PenguinPower

(1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023) -->

WhemeStar

(3293)

Lalendra

(7): Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2657) --> (Null) (2705) -->

PenguinPower

(2809) -->

WhemeStar

(3097)
EspeciallyTheLies (1):

PenguinPower

(1996)
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2327) --> (Null) (2612) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) -->

WhemeStar

(3030)
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) -->

WhemeStar

(3062) --> (Null) (3118) -->

WhemeStar

(3165) --> (Null) (3196) -->

WhemeStar

(3233)
Vaxkiller (5):

WhemeStar

(2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) -->

PenguinPower

(3012) -->

WhemeStar

(3112) -->

PenguinPower

(3290)
Wavemode (6): Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2635) --> (Null) (2800) -->

WhemeStar

(2966) ==>

WhemeStar

(3115)

PenguinPower

(7): Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) -->

WhemeStar

(2962)
Myloninja13 (1):

PenguinPower

(2437)
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 (2904) -->

WhemeStar

(3034) -->

PenguinPower

(3255)

Flavor Leaf

(5): JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) -->

PenguinPower

(2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) -->

WhemeStar

(2958)

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral

(5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) -->

Lalendra

(1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) -->

TheRampage

(909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> (Null) (1798)
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) -->

TheRampage

(813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)

WhemeStar

(3):

Lalendra

(234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) -->

Flavor Leaf

(955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) -->

Lalendra

(279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) -->

TheRampage

(743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) -->

Lalendra

(1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)

Lalendra

(3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) -->

TheRampage

(771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) -->

TheRampage

(223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) -->

TheRampage

(1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)

TheRampage

(3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)

PenguinPower

(1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)

Flavor Leaf

(1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral

(2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[JarJarDrinks]

Yeah but how does that make JJD scum?

Scion and TBG aren't what's making me scumread JJD.

what is? you haven't mention it I'm pretty sure.

Like you straight up sheeped me the last 2 days and seemed all poised to do the same today:

I'm happy if today is TBG vs SS

Me too probably.

What gives dude?

[JarJarDrinks]

As a matter of fact:

JarJarDrinks, Wavemode, Vaxkiller, and Tchill all look really bad in this scenario.

wavemode and Tchill are doing fine.

JarJarDrinks' recent pushes plus Vaxkiller going back to lurk mode is looking bad.

I'm happy if today is TBG vs SS

Me too probably.

JarJarDrinks' recent pushes look bad but creature is happy w/ one of them being lynched.

[Gamma Emerald]

I should clarify

The last days were chaotic with wagons with big wagons appearing and disappearing really quickly, this set of wagons were mostly settled on

It's unlikely scum didn't have a hand in this progression

Hmm I disagree with this
the lynches for the first three days all had the same feeling

[JarJarDrinks]

Look at JJD iso and
1. tell me when he started scumreading tbg
2. tell me why he waited for tbg's claim before voting for me
+ what reason does town jjd have to get claims in the open like that

1. Today-ish. His reads are just so bad.
2. I already did. Information.
+ I like getting scummy players to claim cuz it helps me read them

[JarJarDrinks]

whemestar at L-2

hardclaim now

I’ll claim when there’s intent to hammer

this kind of post comes from Scum far more often than it does from Town.

So how bad does this post ping you?

lol

not claiming before intent

[Gamma Emerald]

2. I already did. Information.
+ I like getting scummy players to claim cuz it helps me read them

what info, and how does it help you read them?

[JarJarDrinks]

what info

Their claimed role obv.

and how does it help you read them?

Uhh, same way anything someone says helps you read them?

These were some really shitty questions Gamma.

[JarJarDrinks]

whemestar at L-2

hardclaim now

I’ll claim when there’s intent to hammer

this kind of post comes from Scum far more often than it does from Town.

So how bad does this post ping you?

lol

not claiming before intent

So I guess we have to assume that TBG must have just missed that post from SS and he's gonna firmly plant his vote there whenever he shows up.

After all what other reason would TBG have to ignore something scummy that SS said?

[Gamma Emerald]

what info

Their claimed role obv.

and how does it help you read them?

Uhh, same way anything someone says helps you read them?

These were some really shitty questions Gamma.

Well your play is shitty. Tell me one way in which what you're doing cannot be described as rolefishing.

[JarJarDrinks]

what info

Their claimed role obv.

and how does it help you read them?

Uhh, same way anything someone says helps you read them?

These were some really shitty questions Gamma.

Well your play is shitty. Tell me one way in which what you're doing cannot be described as rolefishing.

Sure, rolefishing implies a hidden agenda to find someones role.

I am outright asking for the role of a scummy player.

[wavemode]

did you skim my last post or something? 3 of the 4 posts I quoted in it were about JJD's play specifically.

otoh I don't remember why I was scumreading him like, 3 weeks ago - I remember being told to read his ISO and not liking it.

been scumreading JJD since the early game, doesn't even know why

after-the-fact justifies it with logic that wheme

must have

bussed and that it

must have

been on JJD

continues the vendetta today by presenting a list of 4 players who were on two mislynches (as though that is evidence of something) - ignores the ones who were on 3 mislynches and votes the one who was on 2, who just happens to be JJD (which is why i said earlier that it was the worst post i'd ever seen)

[wavemode]

Beyond even that, he's attempted to milk the Wheme lynch for towncred really hard, which does ping me, but not that much because JJD's got an ego.

K PLEASE just be scum in this game and not genuinely this dense

u dont get to attack someone ON THE BASIS OF THE WHEME LYNCH and then when he defends himself go "look hes trying to milk towncred from the wheme lynch"

[Hopkirk]

Scion should make her PR fakeclaim now imo too.

If my reads are completely wrong it shouldn't be this hard to lynch someone.

@TBG: Scion looked worse on the vote thing I was talking about, that's what I was getting at in the second half of that post.

[Tchill13]

I mentioned before that if there's someone scum are gonna push as him "bussing" wheme it's jjd imo.

[Tchill13]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

Wouldn't it be awful to run up sajj if he was a PR also?

[Tchill13]

I should clarify

The last days were chaotic with wagons with big wagons appearing and disappearing really quickly, this set of wagons were mostly settled on

It's unlikely scum didn't have a hand in this progression

Hmm I disagree with this
the lynches for the first three days all had the same feeling

And I disagree with that.

[JarJarDrinks]

I'm happy if today is TBG vs SS

Me too probably.

Just want to point out that creature is voting alongside TBG and SS for JJD.

[JarJarDrinks]

And like that post wasn't from a previous day or something. He said that TODAY. There was literally < 24 hours between that post and his vote for me.

[Scioness Sajj]

is tchill always this disconnected

[Scioness Sajj]

And like that post wasn't from a previous day or something. He said that TODAY. There was literally < 24 hours between that post and his vote for me.

there is also over 100 posts between the post you quoted and his vote on you.

[Tchill13]

Is that the strategy? Just say I'm not paying attention?

Only you and TBG have said that. Sometimes is very true. That said....

Only you and TBG have said that.

[Tchill13]

is tchill always this disconnected

What am I disconnected about this time btw?

[TehBrawlGuy]

Look at JJD iso and
1. tell me when he started scumreading tbg
2. tell me why he waited for tbg's claim before voting for me
+ what reason does town jjd have to get claims in the open like that

1. Today-ish. His reads are just so bad.
2. I already did. Information.
+ I like getting scummy players to claim cuz it helps me read them

Man, this is some classic MS groupthink. My reads are bad, because they go against the generally accepted townpool.

Meanwhile, in reality, I've been right on literally every flip since I replaced in, and you've been off mislynching townies.

For some reason, I don't put a lot of stock in what you feel is bad.