Forgotten Hourglass [Game Over]

[Dunnstral]

She didn't say it, you took part of the sentance apart, your assertion here has as much validity as me pointing to 3523 and trying to use that as proof

[zMuffinMan]

but you are doing that... so what point are you trying to make?

that we're both right or that we're both wrong? because in either scenario, that would mean mariar is scum lol

[Dunnstral]

You can't take words out of context like in 3517 and point to it and say "look at the mindset"

That's misleading, it doesn't show what she was actually saying, she's speaking so that somebody who isn't her can understand it

[zMuffinMan]

you took part of the sentance apart

i did. the part that stood out as something someone who knows someone else is fake-claiming wouldn't say

[Dunnstral]

YES I FAKECLAIMED A GUILTY

okay, this isn't something that somebody who was telling the truth about cop results would say.

[zMuffinMan]

so what exactly do you think cupcake's role is?

[Dunnstral]

so what exactly do you think cupcake's role is?

Neighborizor

[Dunnstral]

inb4 "that's not a main character role"

We haven't seen him flip main character yet

[Dunnstral]

If he flips joat I'll take another look

Until then I have no intention of going along with what he is saying

[zMuffinMan]

you think he fake-claimed deemo (and changed his avatar to the picture of deemo), the titular character of the game this flavour is based on, and no one is counter-claiming that?

or you think fakegod just made that role an underpowered neighbouriser (who can only keep neighbourhoods open for a single day phase) in a game where main characters are always the more power-heavy roles?

l o l

[Sakura Hana]

I see what muffin's driving at.

That's a legit scum claim LMAO

[Sakura Hana]

Even if Katsuki's fake claiming MariaR scumslipped, nice one i didnt see that one muffin.

[zMuffinMan]

like it's possible cupcake

is

fake-claiming something about his role, but he's not lying about being a main character and he's not lying about being more than a neighbouriser

he fake-claimed a guilty on ank last game when he was roleblocked but otherwise told the truth about his results (yeah he also fake-claimed a guilty on you but that had nothing to do with his actual results)

you're trying to suggest that because he has a penchant for fake-claiming, he can't be believed at all

i fully believe cupcake is the kind of player who has no reservations about fake-claiming if he has no meaningful results

i don't believe cupcake is the kind of player who would fake-claim at the cost of making his actual results ambiguous (i.e. if he doesn't have a guilty on mariar, it's because he doesn't have a meaningful result to share or he's not worried that people won't be able to tell what his meaningful results are)

so *shrug*

[zMuffinMan]

oh, and the addendum to that last part is that i do believe he's a "JOAT", so the question leads back to: what do you think cupcake's role does if he's a neighbourising JOAT?

i will say this: i believe he isn't lying about having multiple cop shots. he is omitting information but i'm reasonably confident that at least one of my assumptions about how his role works is correct and mariar is probably scum regardless

[Dunnstral]

she's making an argument for why you should wait to see the flip

(that doesn't matter, why would she say that in the first place?)

Why would Katsuki say this:

YES I FAKECLAIMED A GUILTY

[Dunnstral]

Even if Katsuki's fake claiming MariaR scumslipped, nice one i didnt see that one muffin.

I could make a case that you 'slipped' the same way here

Even if Katsuki's fake claiming

I thought you believed Katsuki? What is the point of mind here?

[Dunnstral]

i believe that Katsuki is the role he is claiming.

Even if Katsuki's fake claiming

That's right, now sit down Sakura

[Sakura Hana]

If you're going to get into semantics then explain to me why does a town player leave open the possibility that Katsuki's telling the truth about the guilty on them.

[Dunnstral]

If you're going to get into semantics then explain to me why does a town player leave open the possibility that Katsuki's telling the truth about the guilty on them.

She doesn't.

Let's look at what she says:

My logic is still sound regardless, if scum had any reason to disbelieve Katsuki, then Katsuki wouldn't be poisoned, ergo, Dunn and muffin are town, possibly Wisdom too.
MariaR is also scum.

Katsuki is fake claiming period.

If he really is cop

you'll see it when he's done being poisoned at day end I know I'm town at most I live for one more day.

We get the pools figured out and decide what pool to lynch in

Seems pretty clear that she doesn't believe the claim. She's telling you to lynch not her today because if katsuki were cop you'd see it on his flip and could lynch her the next day

[Dunnstral]

i believe that Katsuki is the role he is claiming.

Even if Katsuki's fake claiming

That's right, now sit down Sakura

Now it's your turn

This is literally what you just accused MariaR of doing, so you'd better explain yourself. Do you believe Katsuki, or do you think he can be fake claiming?

[Spiffeh]

Hmmmm

[Sakura Hana]

Oh.
So that's what happens when people leave out parts of quotes.

In any case, I still believe the guilty.

[Dunnstral]

Oh.
So that's what happens when people leave out parts of quotes.

I said this like 4 times

[Spiffeh]

The only thing I have learned today is that projectmatt completely disappears when he’s not in the hotseat

[Dunnstral]

Oh.
So that's what happens when people leave out parts of quotes.

In any case, I still believe the guilty.

OK. But I don't, so I'm not going to let us lynch MariaR. We can sit here until deadline and see who gets rushed up or we can talk about other people, your call