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You like him fake claiming a guilty on maria, devolving the thread into toxicity?In post 3772, Spiffeh wrote:And I like his Maria push- Spiffeh
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If I’m a main character, then this game has officially jumped the shark.In post 3760, Dunnstral wrote:Why can't, say, nancy be main character? Townreads aside, is it a flavor thing?
I suppose it could be possible though but weird if I was.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Dunnstral
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okIn post 3777, Spiffeh wrote:No the reasons he listed for Maria being scum when he actually explained his scum read
You know the ones you said were wrong and moved on
those were good
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the remaining main character is masked lady (probably). possibly miraiIn post 3760, Dunnstral wrote:Why can't, say, nancy be main character? Townreads aside, is it a flavor thing?
also if anyone is stupid enough to think i asked for the neighbourhoods to be released today when people were thinking mariar was caught in a lie, then there's no helping you
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I was going to try to respond to that alongside my own reasons for Maria being scum, but it began to look like it wasn't necessary.In post 3779, Dunnstral wrote:ok
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In post 3308, zMuffinMan wrote:the only reason dunnstral thinks mariar is town is because he's friends with her
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SureIn post 3282, Moment wrote:Anyways, I was going to ask about this earlier, before Katsuki's guilty; Dunnstral, would you mind elaborating on your townread on MariaR? I think it was Spiffeh who asked for reasons for her being scum and I wanted to talk a little about that and I think it would be useful to also hear why people townread her in the first place.
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Well, that post was mostly a joke, but I'm not sure why I should beIn post 3279, Wisdom wrote:
dude. Still believing katsuki?In post 3277, Moment wrote:Katsuki's guilties are correctignoringKatsuki here. Even if I take it that he's lying about his guilty, I still believe that MariaR is scum; it doesn't actually change anything for me when it comes to my willingness to vote her.
First inside a quote I believe her saying she's 60% confident I'll flip scum is towny and I can understand how she would think I was different/scumread me thereIn post 648, MariaR wrote:
Alright. How do you feel about Purr Sakura and Brain?In post 641, Moment wrote:
Most likely not; I don't think I really recall any reasons for him being scum outside of Spiffy pointing out his apparent hypocrisy, which I don't think would be a reliable scumtell.In post 637, MariaR wrote:Pedit: Would you join a Dunnstral wagon Moment? I'm pretty confident on that atm prob 60% Why is the Nos wagon a thing too like I joined that to save Spiffy but I don't know what the whole thing for him is being scum.
Do i think she could jump on me as scum? Sure, but, to jump on me, then also go at odds with Purrcocet, Sakura, and Brian here, all of which she seems to know to a good degree - I don't think she goes for that
Not mentioning my double vote when pushing me is a towntell - I feel as scum she'd have brought that up and tried to frame it as cause for concernIn post 663, MariaR wrote:
Why does a scum double voter not make sense to you? I'm pushing dunn for his play not his role I already disagreed with you on the deadline stuff so I get that. I don't feel like I've sorted you by interactions at all though I've looked at your posts and tried to determine if there towny or scummy.In post 658, Sakura Hana wrote:
Because i feel like dunn's role makes no sense as a scum oriented role and you're pushing it real hard, I also had entirely the opposite opinion of Dunn wanting to help out by artificially extending the deadline, I thought it was towny. I think your stance on Nancy is quite easy, and I feel you are trying to sort me by looking at my interactions with other people instead of directly enganging me, which feels kind of unusual.In post 651, MariaR wrote:Mmm that's fine. Do you know why you read me as scummy for this game at least?
Again, I think the push on me early comes from town, this is another quote that reaffirms that for meIn post 701, MariaR wrote:That's fine and I think he's scum. I have the most experience with him out of anyone here and I'm way more confident in my ability to read Dunnstral than anyone here. Now I've tried to explain why Dunn is scum and I can do it again if you want but I'm not gonna kick and scream like I did before.
She talks about trying a new style a few times and that's another reason I townread her, I think she's more likely to try a new style here as town than scum.In post 723, MariaR wrote:Ok I'm done watching big brother I'm gonna let the thread breathe I'm clearly not going to get support on Dunnstral I think he's scum and nothing has shown me why his actions come from town dunn at all perhaps we'll visit it another day. I'm just annoyed for the most part because a major point of this style was so people would hopefully understand and listen to my reads more but it's the same old same old. I'll stay away from the thread for a bit
VOTE: Brian Skies
The reaction to Katsuki AtE is very much like her town selfIn post 940, MariaR wrote:Only reason I don't want to rly vote Kat is ate
The whole Mylo defense thing is all more likely to come from town Maria than scum Maria, in my opinion, I thought she really looked like town there from my experiences playing with her
More likely to come from town than scum (not impossible though)In post 1157, MariaR wrote:
Can you stop being a bitch?In post 1154, Sakura Hana wrote:Damn, the entire scumteam is piling on Mylo according to MariaR?
I don't think she's faking anger/annoyance and I think that makes her town
She wouldn't get mad if Mylo was her scum buddy
In post 1168, MariaR wrote:I'm trying to type this without ate. I've wanted to fix my meta for a long time because I keep getting told I'm only good at scum and my town game is shit. So I'm trying really hard to prove that incorrect that I can have good town games. I don't mind getting told I'm incorrect or wrong and talking over why I'm wrong but I don't want to get talked too like I'm a moron it's a slap to the face
This is almost certainly town Maria and not a scum ployIn post 1170, MariaR wrote:I'm gonna just cool off with games
She could be saying this stuff as scum, true, but I don't think it's nearly as likely, also I don't think she would be this upset
This random logic dump that doesn't address anything in thread comes from townIn post 1583, MariaR wrote:In most fakegod games it's 3 scum based off that logic bussing in stuff like this seems very stupid unless someone was very confident in there scum game that they could carry to the end and honestly no one in this playerlist strikes me as someone with an impressive scum game so I don't think that logic fits here.
Spoiler: lot of VCs
Vc's like 1.6 and 1.8 don't make me think Nos is scum but I think 1.6 to 1.7 is one of the more telling VC's in the set looking at said vote counts I think moment is one of the worser looking people in this. I was townreading them for how they were scumreading me for buddying and that's not really false but I'd like to hear if I'm coocoo or not for suspecting that I imagine'd they would be voting me here but it doesn't seem like they are. If they were I'd still believe the read but now it feels like something they just tried to bite into.
I still dislike Dunnstral but perhaps it's a case of me not understanding something so I'm calling it scummy? Like I still can see him flipping scum but the thing giving me cold feet is I can't see anything that I find scummy in his iso besides the early game play it's mostly nullish.
I'd like to know why people tr Purrcocet as well I doubt I'd get a lynch there but it is for sure someone in my sights of wanting to vote if I had to make a pool of suspects at the moment it'd be
(Purr Moment Muffin Dunn) but the problem here is as I said in the top part of my post I doubt scum bussed. If it was near the end of the day that's ok but early on like moment did I'm a bit "eh" on it's why brain isn't in my pool of suspects right now. if Muffin is scum like I'm thinking I doubt Sakura is
I don't get the project matt scumreads either unless it's based on vcs
Because of Katsuki; she's more likely town from this annoyanceIn post 1676, MariaR wrote:This is me not wanting to play this game rn and dodging
This post looks goodIn post 2027, MariaR wrote:Dunn what's with you btw? You've never ever been this interested with my slot before and by interested I mean try some sparky reply or ask a weird question on almost every post I make. Like you'veneverbeen like this before. In fact you normally don't talk about me at all
Responses here all look towny to meIn post 2036, MariaR wrote:
We talked about this KOKICHI use your wordsIn post 1939, Kokichi Oma wrote:Cant wait for this town flip. Maybe after you will listen to me that Wisdom is obv maf
Dw Spiffy I'm always here if you need me. In the pocket you goIn post 1940, Spiffeh wrote:why isn't anyone paying attention to me my CTRL-F is only hitting Muffin's signature now
OOFIn post 1941, Wisdom wrote:spiff youre boring
+1In post 1942, Spiffeh wrote:Ankamius might actually be scum after all
Mafia is a game about trust. The towns that work together are the one's that win together it's a team game based around talking theory etc people can be wrong and you need to figure out if it was scummy or just a mistake I don't think you shouldn't trust someone on the bases that they want to ml you beforeIn post 1944, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
How do you expect me to trust two people who were trying to mislynch me?In post 1937, Katsuki wrote:
Muffins would never fake a guilty. It goes against the very fiber of his being.In post 1935, Sakura Hana wrote:
Because the guilty is fake.In post 1934, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:The timing of my/TBG pushes is suspicious af. I also really disliked Matt’s push on Moment. I can’t imagine anyone pushing a wagon on one player while presumably having a guilty on another.
ThisIn post 1948, Spiffeh wrote:
Can you point to a previous game that makes you think Wisdom is scum here and explain why?In post 1417, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm not speaking another language, just think wisdom is scum here based on meta. Considering I've played about 10 games with him at this point.
This is towny tooIn post 2060, MariaR wrote:1) My confidence comes from liking to think people are decent human beings who wouldn't post stuff like kat did to get townread as scum. It's called having morals
2) I feel like the only time before this game where I've said the amount of you talking you do is AI before was as scum? The only other time I said it as town was years ago to get a reaction from you. Your words don't really mean much in the grand outlook because we just disagree. You can't really disprove my own reasoning for wanting to read you because it's wifom at the end of the day
3) If you're that naive to the way you come off to people sometimes I'm seriously worried about you
Pedit: @Wisom I think townreading someone for making a bad push is super weak and easily one of the fakest things you can do.
In post 2718, MariaR wrote:I'm gonna ignore kat and Muffins caps lock posting though unless they wanna give legit explanations I get Muffin is scum so they won't do that but meh it's annoying
She really looks like town in her dealings with Katsuki and Muffin around hereIn post 2721, MariaR wrote:
Your gimmick isn't cute. If you were gonna cop anyone it'd be the person who almost made you rage.In post 2717, Katsuki wrote:PROVE IT
DEMONSTRATE IT RIGHT NOW BY UNVOTING THE MOD-CONFIRMED TOWN MUFFINS AND VOTE TBG
Cop me next while you're at it. But you're not a cop so
And hereIn post 2723, MariaR wrote:I get you want to circlejerk with your friend so you wanna make an obv fake inno and sure go for it but post legit content along with it and not just "get off my inno" that isn't real. Get it over with chop chop. If you won't lynch your friend that badly at least pretend to be playing thanks
And here, I don't believe these are stances she takes as scumIn post 2771, MariaR wrote:In post 2748, Sakura Hana wrote:At this point i just wanna lynch both Muffin and Kats to stop the caps spam.In post 2749, Sakura Hana wrote:Like seriously it's annoying me.
^^^^^^In post 2751, Sakura Hana wrote:If you guys are gonna behave like this then i rather you be dead.
In post 2795, MariaR wrote:I don't believe kat was the nk of all thingsIn post 2829, MariaR wrote:Get off the throne you think you're onIn post 2840, MariaR wrote:
You call people bad because they don't agree with you and discredit them and shut them down for it. Instead of explaining why you just feel the need to insult people. So when you feel like playing mafia and not the game of lord brain lmkIn post 2831, Brian Skies wrote:
Oh no! Is Maria mad because she's about to lose her buddy now that her designated mislynches are being taken off the table?In post 2829, MariaR wrote:Get off the throne you think you're on
However can I atone for my sins?
Should I prostrate myself to you by putting my pants over my head and mislynching town slots for you?In post 2842, MariaR wrote:I don't believe Kat or Muffin at all is the thing it has nothing to do with the claims I think they're acting like this just to be toxic asshats and now you're joining inIn post 2844, MariaR wrote:
THE IRONYYYYYYYYYYYYYYIn post 2841, zMuffinMan wrote:YOURE FRUSTRATING TO PLAY WITH WHENIn post 2926, MariaR wrote:The friendgroup is salty it's getting lynched the horror *eye roll*In post 2935, MariaR wrote:
^In post 2927, Spiffeh wrote:I’m just gonna sit on Muffin and check back near deadline if I need to condense on someone
I think lynching anyone other than him is a mistake and I’m sad what I believe to be a fake cop result is dissuading people from wanting him to die
And this all comes from townIn post 3027, MariaR wrote:Muffin you just saying I'm scum isn't doing anything. You should be explaining your sentences and focus on that instead of the overall toxic gameplay. When I played with you before you were obv town so fast and here I'm not seeing it I'm seeing 2 dif people and that logic and the way you were pushing on obv town in a way that didn't seem to be a way to figure out there alignment doesn't feel towny to me. Now it's your turn.
There's a lot of my own meta and experience mixed in with this but this shows what I'm thinking
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Sure. I think I'll be doing this in pieces, both because I've been feeling less verbose lately and because I think it'll just be easier to digest.
It began back with her strange focus on Nancy Drew early in the game.
Spoiler: Pocketing?
I still don't think it's true that Maria was trying to bounce ideas off of Nancy or anything of the sort. Also, looking back, I have to wonder; why Nancy in specific? I would imagine there would be other people in this game that Maria could have asked to get ideas off of; people she may have more history with.- Nancy Drew 39
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We have never played together before. I see your point. Kokichi asking me a very similar type of question, makes way more sense based on this.In post 3787, Moment wrote:Sure. I think I'll be doing this in pieces, both because I've been feeling less verbose lately and because I think it'll just be easier to digest.
It began back with her strange focus on Nancy Drew early in the game.
Spoiler: Pocketing?
I still don't think it's true that Maria was trying to bounce ideas off of Nancy or anything of the sort. Also, looking back, I have to wonder; why Nancy in specific? I would imagine there would be other people in this game that Maria could have asked to get ideas off of; people she may have more history with.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Spiffeh
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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=76953In post 3788, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
When was the link posted?In post 3774, Dunnstral wrote:I haven't read the whole neighborhood yet, I've read the brian one
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=77046
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Because I townread Nancy it has nothing to do with who I know and who I don't know you're missing the point it isn't about who I'm familer with it's who I trust. And I trusted NancyIn post 3790, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
We have never played together before. I see your point. Kokichi asking me a very similar type of question, makes way more sense based on this.In post 3787, Moment wrote:Sure. I think I'll be doing this in pieces, both because I've been feeling less verbose lately and because I think it'll just be easier to digest.
It began back with her strange focus on Nancy Drew early in the game.
Spoiler: Pocketing?
I still don't think it's true that Maria was trying to bounce ideas off of Nancy or anything of the sort. Also, looking back, I have to wonder; why Nancy in specific? I would imagine there would be other people in this game that Maria could have asked to get ideas off of; people she may have more history with.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I think the next thing to consider would be the Mylo interactions. This is something that other people actually noticed more than I did.
Spoiler: Purrcocet
Spoiler: Brian Skies
In fact, I think the entire conversation between Brian Skies and Maria - starting from about here - is worth rereading.
I'm sure there are more quotes from other people noticing similarly strange behavior that I simply missed. For the record: everything I said about why I didn't focus on Maria at the start of Day 2 was completely fabricated. This was before I considered the possibility that my "no gun" result didn't mean she was town.
Here are those quotes that I was looking at earlier, if anyone cares to look at them. Like I said, I'm feeling less verbose than usual, so there's no play-by-play commentary; the long and short of it is exactly as other people have pointed out previously. I find it hard to imagine that Maria, if town, had that much of a reason to interact with the Mylo wagon in the way that she did. If someone can pull some kind of history of her doing the same thing with regards to lurker wagons in other games I would be interested to see that; if no such history exists, I would wager that that's meaningful.
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You're using the logic of pocketing why would I pocket someone I don't know compared to someone I do. It doesn't make sense at allI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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"I have no reason to interact with a mylo wagon"
Okay first before I answer that. What do you think is a reason to interact with a wagon in a game of mafia.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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