NY 213 - Game Over!

[Krazy]

My bad, the four reds earlier looked like you were a bit settled.

[Ankamius]

oh

no, that post was me being amused that Kublai Khan made a point saying that me trying to townlead is the reason I'm not in the scumlist even though he basically had almost exactly the same scumreads that I did when I analyzed stuff yesterday

I'm doing different stuff today

[Ankamius]

Wavemode: you are a vanilla neighbor, correct?

[Ankamius]

Does anyone have a list of claims that are currently known?

[Krazy]

Are you including the obviously fake claims? (Think Vax? claimed vig at one point and retracted)

I think the known real ones are just Hop as last mason and yeah, Wave as last neighbor. Pretty sure all the other neighbors died. performer+ausuka are the dead neighbors.

Ausuka was IC, performer was vengeful+neighbor, Flavor Leaf was the other mason.

[Krazy]

Pretty sure TBG is the only living VT claim now.

[Ankamius]

I'm looking for real claims of currently alive players, yes

I want wavemode to confirm 6352 directly though

[Ankamius]

oh well, looks like I'm continuing this after work tomorrow...

[Golden Robster]

okay this might sound stupid but tbg bussed texcat

[Golden Robster]

and I'm probably in no position to be leading town right now but

if anything my reads have taken a 180 after that

[Tchill13]

Why do you think scum killed sajj?

Why would a scum team with me on it kill sajj?

[Tchill13]

There's literally a confirmed Mason in the game still.

[Golden Robster]

I need to re-read previous day in full and I don't understand saji kill

[Ankamius]

Why do you think scum killed sajj?

Why would a scum team with me on it kill sajj?

think about the bigger picture, not the individual kills

[Ankamius]

the sajj kill makes perfect sense under that light

[Ankamius]

fuck it I'll just reveal the answer

Almost50 was probably obvtown, he's generally significantly more readable now than he used to a few years ago
Ausuka + Flavor Leaf were conftown mechanically
PenguinPower and Scioness Sajj were counterwagons to flipped scum, therefore strongly town via those flips

Scum could be playing to disrupt the town's primary 'leadership'
Scum could be playing to get rid of the most competent players
Scum could be playing to get rid of players holding other town together

But no, scum are instead killing players that are going to be impossible to lynch and very obviously town via role or gamestate.

Scum are more afraid of a townblock than of the town's reads.

[Ankamius]

(hint: this strongly suggests that scum are actually not in as good a spot as it might seem. what I'm getting from this is that there is a huge difference from what town is doing and what scum is doing, or at the very least there's a pattern emerging that would potentially solve the game... yet town are not in a position to catch on to what that difference or pattern is and scum are trying to make sure that stays true. that's why the loud players are alive, that's why the players that don't necessarily have the same reads as most other slots are alive [THESE are the slots that are most likely to have correct reads btw], that's why scum are trying to keep the chaos alive)

[Golden Robster]

@anka did you colour those vc's one by one?

[Ankamius]

btw if I'm reading the setup correctly, scum also don't think the town PRs are enough of a threat to deal with

PEdit: no, I used a find and replace tool

I grabbed the VCs one by one though since the formatting is impossible to work with via a multiquote

that's a big reason why I did all the work and posted it for people to work with independently

[Golden Robster]

(hint: this strongly suggests that scum are actually not in as good a spot as it might seem. what I'm getting from this is that there is a huge difference from what town is doing and what scum is doing, or at the very least there's a pattern emerging that would potentially solve the game... yet town are not in a position to catch on to what that difference or pattern is and scum are trying to make sure that stays true. that's why the loud players are alive, that's why the players that don't necessarily have the same reads as most other slots are alive [THESE are the slots that are most likely to have correct reads btw], that's why scum are trying to keep the chaos alive)

then potentially the majority of town have wrong reads?

[Ankamius]

Scum are more afraid of a townblock than of the town's reads.

[Golden Robster]

Ankamius, who are your biggest SR's right now?

[Golden Robster]

JarJarDrinks, Wavemode, Vaxkiller, and Tchill all look really bad in this scenario.

is it still this?

[Ankamius]

I haven't gotten to that part yet, everything I did today was pretty much a context to run analysis on specific slots through

[Ankamius]

Like building a likeness of the people I'm looking for before looking for them in the sea of people