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Post Post #6400 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:17 am

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In post 6394, Vaxkiller wrote:Kublai, the only thing that bothers me about you is your random voting for me.
Oh, it's because I think you're on the mafia team.
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Post Post #6401 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:27 am

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In post 6267, Tchill13 wrote:No lynch instead of lynching TBG or scion?

What a joke

Since Tchill isn't literally at L-2 already, which he definitely should be, let me walk you guys through this.

Ank is getting hung up on the VCA analysis, but what we really need to be thinking about here is a different metric.

I am talking of course about the epeen analysis.

What you need to think through is, does this player have the epeen to, as town, allow a no lynch to occur on a slot they are null on just because they didn't get their preferred lynch? That is, among the three players that nearly let a no lynch happen (JJD, GR, and Tchill), for which is it plausible that it was coming from a town POV?

For JJD, I'm just going to say, that answer is yes. JJD has the epeen that, as town, he would tantrum his way to a no lynch. It is the JJD way. To be honest, I was waiting for Mylo even before JJD said he wouldn't vote, because... I just wasn't holding my breath for his vote, what can I say. He also has the big brass balls that he would play up being online and choosing not to vote. JJD is basically a rolling ball of testosterone, and if you bear that in mind, literally everything he does makes sense. This is totally consistent with him wanting to get the second claim from Sajj yesterday. The dude thinks he is a third mason. I think the likelihood I'm wrong on this slot is low.

For GR.... this is really the question, isn't it? I am inclined to say no. And I think that "no" to GR letting a town no lynch happen on texcat is a pretty big part of solving this game. Certainly GR CAN be bull-headed and stubborn... but in this moment? In this moment, no, I doubt that. This remains a slot I could plausibly be wrong about, but at this point, I'd say GR has been upgraded to texcat levels of scum. Easily the second scummiest person in the game.

And then we have Tchill.

There's just no fucking way. There is no world in which a town Tchill even entertains the notion of a no lynch on a null. It just doesn't happen. That quote at the top is hardclaiming scum. He has literally built ALL of his cases around stallers to the Wheme wagon. Flips are so paramount to Tchill's understanding of town-sided play that it there is no way this post exists if he is town.

Like, look at it. He's so tilted that texcat is going down he can't even bring himself to say her name.

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Post Post #6402 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:37 am

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I've never heard of the epeen analysis. I actually enjoyed that breakdown. You nailed me right on the head actually. The issue is I've just had bad reads my man. Terribly, terribly bad reads. I'm town. What's my motivation for not bussing texcat there exactly? Posting and showing I'm on but not willing to lynch texcat? That'd make me look pretty bad when he flipped scum wouldn't it?
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Post Post #6403 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:50 am

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In post 6401, Krazy wrote:Ank is getting hung up on the VCA analysis, but what we really need to be thinking about here is a different metric.

What

I've been using NKA primarily so far

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Post Post #6404 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:56 am

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VOTE: tchill

@krazy you're analysis is fine; I agree that we should be focusing on these three players including myself and KK here

it makes the most logical sense to look at the players who hard-defended texcat (including me)
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Post Post #6405 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:59 am

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@skygazer the fact that texcat was counter-wagon to my biggest scumreads made me doubt it was on scum and more likely on town
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Post Post #6406 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:12 am

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In post 6404, Golden Robster wrote:VOTE: tchill

@krazy you're analysis is fine; I agree that we should be focusing on these three players including myself and KK here

it makes the most logical sense to look at the players who hard-defended texcat (including me)
I feel like I just got substituted in for JarJarDrinks.
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Post Post #6407 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:35 am

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Day 6 VC #4Krazy (1) - Wavemode ()
Kublai Khan (1) - Creature ()
Tchill13 (3) - Krazy (), Vaxkiller (), Golden Robster ()
Vaxkiller (1) - Kublai Khan ()
Myloninja13 (0) -
Not Voting (8) - Gamma Emerald, TehBrawlGuy, Skygazer, Ankamius, Myloninj13, JarJarDrinks, Hopkirk, Tchill13

Lynch ThresholdDuring day 6, it takes 8 votes to lynch a player.

DeadlineDay 6 ends on August 17, 2018 9:15 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-08-17 21:15:00).

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Spoiler: Current Voting History
Day 6Golden Robster: Tchill13 ()
Krazy: Tchill13 ()
Creature: Myloninja13 () --> Kublai Khan ()
Kublai Khan: Vaxkiller ()
Vaxkiller: Tchill13 ()
Wavemode: Krazy ()

Spoiler: Previous Voting History
Day 5
* - Hammer Vote
^ - Vote after hammer.

Golden Robster (2): TehBrawlGuy () -->
Scioness Sajj
()
Krazy (6): Gamma Emerald () --> Tchill13 () -->
Texcat
() --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Texcat
()
Creature (7): Gamma Emerald () -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> JarJarDrinks () --> Skygazer () -->
Texcat
() --> (Null) () -->
Texcat
()
Kublai Khan (3): Wavemode () --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
Texcat
(*)
Hopkirk (4): Krazy () -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
Scioness Sajj
()
Gamma Emerald (4): Golden Robster () --> JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) () -->
Texcat
()
Tchill13 (4): Vaxkiller () --> TehBrawlGuy () ==> TehBrawlGuy () -->
Scioness Sajj
()
Skygazer (6): Wavemode () --> (Null) () -->
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Texcat
() -->
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Texcat
()
JarJarDrinks (6): TehBrawlGuy () -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
Scioness Sajj
()
Ankamius (9): Wavemode () --> TehBrawlGuy () ==> TehBrawlGuy () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Texcat
() --> (Null) () -->
Texcat
() -->
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Texcat
()
Texcat
(1): TehBrawlGuy ()
TehBrawlGuy (7): JarJarDrinks () --> Wavemode () -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Texcat
() -->
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Texcat
()
Vaxkiller (5): Krazy () --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Texcat
()
Wavemode (6): Krazy () --> TehBrawlGuy () --> Gamma Emerald () --> Golden Robster () --> Wavemode () --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Myloninja13 (2): Gamma Emerald () --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
Texcat
(^)

Scioness Sajj
(6): Gamma Emerald () --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 () --> TehBrawlGuy () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Texcat
()

Day 4
* - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral
(1):
Texcat
()
Golden Robster (2):
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Dunnstral
()
Krazy (3):
Texcat
() --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Dunnstral
(*)
Creature (3):
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Texcat
() -->
Dunnstral
()
Hopkirk (5):
Scioness Sajj
() --> (Null) () -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> Vaxkiller () --> Golden Robster ()
Gamma Emerald (1):
Dunnstral
()
Tchill13 (6):
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Dunnstral
() -->
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Dunnstral
() --> (Null) () --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Skygazer (4):
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Texcat
() --> (Null) () -->
Dunnstral
()
JarJarDrinks (2):
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Dunnstral
()
Ankamius (3): Tchill13 () -->
Texcat
() --> Krazy ()
Texcat
(1):
Dunnstral
()
TehBrawlGuy (1):
Texcat
()
Vaxkiller (1):
Scioness Sajj
()
Wavemode (2):
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Dunnstral
()
PenguinPower
(2):
Scioness Sajj
() -->
Dunnstral
()
Myloninja13 (3):
Dunnstral
() --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Dunnstral
()
Scioness Sajj
(2):
Texcat
() --> (Null) ()

Day 3
* - Hammer vote
^ - Vote occurred after hammer

Dunnstral
(2): Myloninja13 () -->
Texcat
()
Golden Robster (3):
Dunnstral
() --> TehBrawlGuy () --> Creature ()
Pine (0):
Krazy (3):
Dunnstral
() -->
Texcat
() --> Gamma Emerald ()
Creature (8):
Texcat
() -->
Lalendra
() -->
Texcat
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Texcat
() -->
Lalendra
() --> Kublai Khan () -->
Lalendra
()
Kublai Khan (7): Creature () -->
Lalendra
() --> TehBrawlGuy () --> Creature () -->
Lalendra
() --> Gamma Emerald () -->
Lalendra
()
Hopkirk (3):
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Gamma Emerald (3):
Lalendra
() --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 ()
Ausuka
(4): Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Lalendra
(3): TehBrawlGuy () --> Myloninja13 () --> Creature ()
Tchill13 (3):
Lalendra
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Frozen Angel (0):
Skygazer (1):
Lalendra
()
JarJarDrinks (5): Creature () --> (Null) () -->
Lalendra
() -->
Dunnstral
() -->
Lalendra
()
Ankamius (3):
Lalendra
() --> (Null) () --> Creature ()
Texcat
(1): Myloninja13 ()
TehBrawlGuy (4): JarJarDrinks () -->
Texcat
() --> Creature () --> Gamma Emerald ()
Vaxkiller (3): Kublai Khan () --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Wavemode (2): TehBrawlGuy () -->
Lalendra
() --> Ankamius (^)
PenguinPower
(3):
Texcat
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Lalendra
()
Myloninja13 (2):
Dunnstral
() --> Creature ()
Scioness Sajj
(3):
Texcat
() --> Creature () -->
Lalendra
(*)

Day 2
Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral
(4): Myloninja13 () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
PenguinPower
() --> TehBrawlGuy ()
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk () --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Creature () -->
WhemeStar
() --> Wavemode () -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Pine (1): Andriod18 ()
Creature (3): Myloninja13 () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
(*)
Kublai Khan (5):
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
()
WhemeStar
(4): Vaxkiller () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Flavor Leaf
() -->
PenguinPower
()
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 () --> Kublai Khan () --> (Null) () ==> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan () --> Golden Robster () --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
()
Ausuka
(7):
PenguinPower
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Myloninja13 () --> TehBrawlGuy () -->
WhemeStar
()
Lalendra
(7): Vaxkiller () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
()
EspeciallyTheLies (1):
PenguinPower
()
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 () --> EspeciallyTheLies () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 () -->
WhemeStar
()
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks () --> Kublai Khan ()
Texcat
(2): ArcAngel9 () --> Myloninja13 ()
ArcAngel9 (1):
Texcat
()
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) () --> Wavemode () -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Vaxkiller (5):
WhemeStar
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
PenguinPower
() -->
WhemeStar
() -->
PenguinPower
()
Wavemode (6):
Texcat
() --> Andriod18 () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
() ==>
WhemeStar
()
PenguinPower
(7): Myloninja13 () --> Kublai Khan () -->
Flavor Leaf
() --> Myloninja13 () --> Golden Robster () --> (Null) () -->
WhemeStar
()
Myloninja13 (1):
PenguinPower
()
Scioness Sajj
(3): Andriod18 () -->
WhemeStar
() -->
PenguinPower
()
Flavor Leaf
(5): JarJarDrinks () --> Kublai Khan () -->
PenguinPower
() --> Golden Robster () -->
WhemeStar
()

Day 1
Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral
(5):
Osuka
() -->
Texcat
() -->
Lalendra
() -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
Srceenplay
(0): (Null)
Performer
(5):
Osuka
() -->
TheRampage
() --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 () -->
Performer
()*
Joral
(0): (Null)
Almost50
(8): Hopkirk () --> Edosurist () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka
() --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Andriod18 ()
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):
Almost50
() --> Wavemode () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka ()
--> JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) () --> Vaxkiller () --> (Null) () --> Wavemode () --> (Null) () --> ArcAngel9 () --> Andriod18 () --> (Null) ()
Pine (2):
Osuka
() --> Andriod18 ()
Creature (6):
Performer
() --> Myloninja13 () -->
TheRampage
() -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 () -->
Performer
()
Kublai Khan (6):
Osuka
() -->
Almost50
() -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
WhemeStar
(3):
Lalendra
() --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Flavor Leaf
()
Hopkirk (9):
Osuka
() -->
Lalendra
() -->
Osuka
() --> (Null) () --> Wavemode () -->
Performer
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Edosurist (2):
Texcat
() -->
Almost50
()
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller () --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 () --> (Null) ()^
Ausuka
(9): JarJarDrinks () --> Creature () --> Myloninja13 () --> (Null) () -->
TheRampage
() --> Wavemode () -->
Performer
() -->
Lalendra
() --> Andriod18 ()
Lalendra
(3):
Almost50
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
()
EspeciallyTheLies (2):
Almost50
() -->
Performer
()
Lovebird (1): Edosurist ()
Davesaz (1): Wavemode ()
Frozen Angel (3):
Performer
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
()
JarJarDrinks (8):
Osuka
() -->
Almost50
() --> Charles510 () --> Edosurist () -->
Osuka
() -->
Ausuka
() --> Wavemode () --> Andriod18 ()
Osuka
(10): Wavemode () --> JarJarDrinks () --> ArcAngel9 () --> Pine () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
() -->
TheRampage
() -->
Performer
() --> Vaxkiller () -->
Performer
()
Texcat
(4):
Osuka
() --> Wavemode () -->
Osuka
() --> Andriod18 ()
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan () --> Lovebird () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
()
ArcAngel9 (4):
Texcat
() -->
TheRampage
() -->
Texcat
() -->
Performer
()
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks () --> (Null) ()
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks () -->
Scioness Sajj
() --> Andriod18 () --> JarJarDrinks () --> Golden Robster () --> Wavemode () -->
TheRampage
() -->
Performer
()
Wavemode (5):
Texcat
() --> Charles510 () --> (Null) () -->
Osuka
() -->
Performer
()
TheRampage
(3): Creature () --> (Null) () -->
Osuka
()
PenguinPower
(1):
Performer
()
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist () --> JarJarDrinks () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Scioness Sajj
(4):
Ausuka
() --> (Null) () -->
Performer
() --> Andriod18 ()
Flavor Leaf
(1): Andriod18 ()

Pre-Game
Dunnstral
(2):
Texcat
() --> Pine ()
Srceenplay
(1): Andriod18 ()
Pine (1):
Osuka
()
Kublai Khan (1): Pine ()
Hopkirk (1):
Osuka
()
Edosurist (1): Pine ()
Osuka
(2): Pine () --> Wavemode ()
Texcat
(1): Pine ()
Wavemode (1):
Osuka
()
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Post Post #6408 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:13 am

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Hey TBG, this is probably gonna be your last day, so have fun.
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Post Post #6409 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:13 am

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VOTE: Tchill13
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Post Post #6410 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:46 am

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Well im gonna go ahead and claim
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Post Post #6411 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:50 am

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look at the first-character-on-line sequence from Wave's ISO starting at post #5509

I'm a universal backup. I replaced performers role.

I do have a vengeful kill.
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Post Post #6412 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:51 am

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Cool who you shooting?
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Post Post #6413 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:55 am

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In post 6411, Tchill13 wrote:look at the first-character-on-line sequence from Wave's ISO starting at post #5509

I'm a universal backup. I replaced performers role.

I do have a vengeful kill.
Wait, why/how does Wavemode know your role?
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Post Post #6414 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:02 pm

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I think he's claiming neighborized vengeful universal backup and so he is now in a neighborhood with wave, since performer was in a neighborhood.
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Post Post #6415 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:04 pm

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Wait, was Tchill13 in the neighborhood all along?
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Post Post #6416 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:05 pm

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In post 6414, Krazy wrote:I think he's claiming neighborized vengeful universal backup and so he is now in a neighborhood with wave, since performer was in a neighborhood.
Thanks for the wild speculation, but I'd rather wait for the answer.
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Post Post #6417 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:09 pm

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In post 6411, Tchill13 wrote:look at the first-character-on-line sequence from Wave's ISO starting at post #5509

I'm a universal backup. I replaced performers role.

I do have a vengeful kill.
Can you screenshot this

I can't see it properly on my phone
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Post Post #6418 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:09 pm

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Oh right lol, Wheme didn't claim UB
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Post Post #6419 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:09 pm

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Not sure if it's worth lynching Tchill to make him venge rn
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Post Post #6420 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:12 pm

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It might, but I want to sort these claims first
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Post Post #6421 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:13 pm

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In post 6416, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 6414, Krazy wrote:I think he's claiming neighborized vengeful universal backup and so he is now in a neighborhood with wave, since performer was in a neighborhood.
Thanks for the wild speculation, but I'd rather wait for the answer.
Okay, no wait. I understand now.
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Post Post #6422 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:16 pm

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Hmm.

Okay. So either wavemode and Tchill13 are town together or scum together.

I think town and would rather lynch elsewhere.
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Post Post #6423 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:17 pm

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VOTE: JarJarDrinks

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Post Post #6424 (ISO) » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:19 pm

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VOTE: Wavemode
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