micro 816-II: pokemon go (open game) (gambe over)

[MariaR]

I'll try to talk to RC about NSG and get him to explain why she's town because I will be honest I'm still iffy myself about her but he seems confident about her.

[profii]

Erm nope. Go give 1423 some proper thought as to why that might be town

Probably best to ask what your pal thinks rather than here

[profii]

Have you checked in with RC since the day 2 start?

[MariaR]

RC has a 100% read rate on Nsg so if you tr me you shouldn't be voting her he's never got a read on her incorrect.
Pedit: Yes he thinks scum is Creature/you

[profii]

We’re probably entering a grey area in the rules - sorry schadd

[MariaR]

Mafia is a team game and this game even more so then others. I don't get why you're not trying to convince me why I'm not incorrect I do not get the town motivation in that what so ever. If you townread me you should trust in RC and Me's read that NSG is town we could be wrong on you but you just saying you're not gonna explain why I'm wrong on some of my reads isn't going to change my mind magically
Pedit: We're fine

[MariaR]

Art became obv town at day end because everyone wanted them lynched sadly no one moved. Let's reflect on that I have my poe pool tell me why I'm wrong. Tell me what you agree with this goes for everyone. Let's get our head out of our asses right now. I don't think we should out the jailkeeper they can save us a free lynch if they roleblock scum or protect a towny target. We don't have a clear right now so it's best to just wait and handle today like a normal day. We have the time to do it

[MariaR]

I'm pretty confident in my core town group of Shoshin Stun and Kokichi I myself am not sure of Creature/NSG but I'm trusting RC's town read on NSG because he's never got that read incorrect. I think Pro is scum for reasons I have given and I can easily see Nico scum as well they're just hiding behind "oh I lurk as town too" "oh I do this as town and scum" it's just discredit with barely any reads.

Nsg has 3 votes from the players I townread the least this game it's clearly not something I will join

[profii]

I’m gambling on Creature jailing NSG

I know you just said don’t out the JK and I know there is enough scenarios where that doesn’t work

But to me - I know I’m town, you agree with me that Stun is likey town: therefore scum know this - they want us 1v1ing so town, if anything, lynch to split it up

Therefore we know 2 people that don’t need protection

So as much as scum says that the textbook for JK and 2 scum is to doctor, I personally would try and kill-block - I’m a gambler.

So I figured Creature assuredness was a similar thing and he guiltied NSG - hence why I’m saying I don’t think you will be town leader and being fairly vague - I was guessing people might also do that


Anyway


I’m willing to listen to people who think Creature is outing the JK with his day2 entrance on NSG as I appreciate my theory has long odds


So yeah

[stungun0404]

NSG IS NOT SCUM

profii is

i’m about to make a hella convincing case. but you guys need to back off nsg. profii is BLATANT SCUM in my point of view. LIKE 100 PERCENT. I HAVE HIM CAUGHT, I JUST NEED TO SHOW YOU GUYS.

[profii]

Mafia is a team game and this game even more so then others. I don't get why you're not trying to convince me why I'm not incorrect I do not get the town motivation in that what so ever. If you townread me you should trust in RC and Me's read that NSG is town we could be wrong on you but you just saying you're not gonna explain why I'm wrong on some of my reads isn't going to change my mind magically
Pedit: We're fine

So in summary - the motivation was trying not to out a potential JK
- not needing to fight 1 players push on me if other players follow the JK
- given you scum read Creature it’s fairly safe to say I think he is a JK as people obviously don’t see the game my way
- also therefore this explains my motivation and also refutes your scum read on me

so hopefullly that goes some way to explaining what I’m up to here and helps you understand what I’m doing

[stungun0404]

NSG WAS MY BIGGEST TOWN READ ALONG WITH SHOSHIN. back off, or you run the risk of me finding you to be scum. I WAS RIGHT ABOUT ARONIS, AND HE WAS MY THIRD BIGGEST TOWNREAD, after nsg and shoshin.

nsg IS town

[stungun0404]

problem is she is already L-2.

she needs to come into this thread, no lie, but profii is scum. nsg is not

[profii]

Can we like lynch nsg today? I'm fairly confident she's scum.

If you guys are confident in NSG-town I will help you lynch this blatant JK outing attempt

[profii]

UNVOTE:

[stungun0404]

thank you! it’s my birthday, so don’t lynch my initial townread today guys, thanks!

i will review nsg at some point to make sure my read there remains consistent, but her iso seemed so towny to me first look through.

[profii]

Why have you just said

“nsg IS town”

Followed by

“I will review”

If you are making such assured statements, a review implies there is a factor of doubt - therefore why make the first quite definitive statement

[stungun0404]

RC has a 100% read rate on Nsg so if you tr me you shouldn't be voting her he's never got a read on her incorrect.
Pedit: Yes he thinks scum is Creature/you

i also happen to have a 100% read rate on nsg to date. she is not scum here

i was speccing overnight scum teams were either maria and profii, or creature and profii, but creature and profii looks like the case to me as well know. they were also incidentally the first 2 players to draw attention TO aronis by doubtcasting him WITHOUT even voting him. it’s like they knew he was

mislynch bait

case coming in next post. i got a sugar rush from cake, so don’t blame me if i hyperpost!

[profii]

Whilst I am doubtful over your claims of great reads, I’ll happily lynch creature. I’m pretty sure NSG / Creature is TvS and I’m going to do what RC said he did i a recent newbie game with me

Go against my gut to vote with the town direction as it’s the “right” way to play

However if you are all right and I’m wrong -
A) great, I think we get a scum flip out of Creature if NSG!town
B) a creature scum flip should tell you I’m not the scum partner - given the immediate pressure would I immeadiately bus given I can be JK guiltied tonight if that all happens?

So

VOTE: Creature


Bed time ta ta zzzzzz

[Creature]

RC has a 100% read rate on Nsg so if you tr me you shouldn't be voting her he's never got a read on her incorrect.

If I don't townread you, should I lynch you over nsg then?

[Creature]

I’m pretty sure NSG / Creature is TvS

then when I flip town you'll forget about nsg yet again and have her and Maria endgame you all.

[Creature]

And yes, scum can do something like "I townread [insert partner here] and I'm never wrong here"

[stungun0404]

Aronis is not concretely fitting into either a scum or a town mold for me

Profii I still feel like is town but I could agree to have him jailkept on an aronis scumflip to deal with that

Works for me

omfg, did you know aronis was flipping town here? you are completely fine with being the jailkeep target if aronis flips scum. just came across this. wtf is this if you are town? being jailkept upon an aronis scumflip. and you vote him out as though you think he is scum.

[Creature]

Would you do MariaR?

[Creature]

RC: Come on nsg, just some posts
nsg: Okay

nsg: Oh this is it blah blah blah and this is it
RC: nsg is pretty town! I'm 100% at reading her
stun: (Oh, if RC says that) then me too!

RC: Good job, we can now skate to endgame