NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Skygazer]

Cool can we lynch this now

[Ausuka]

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

[HeWhoSwims]

8. Skygazer
9. Jingle Inferno390
10. Chickadee*
12. HeWhoSwims
16. Nosferatu AndriusGustavo

Seems like when I erase anyone who won't be lynched for sure we end up with this. Why me? I've made it clear what I think of Sky and Chick. And the others aren't *big* townreads exactly...why me? What redeems them? Flip me and you're one flip closer to a scum win.

I don't know about the others but I was right on MoI, Dram, A50. Not Profii. But would it be wise for me to bus PRs and try to salvage a goon? Dunno what the others did exactly in that regard but it wouldn't seem like great play d1/d2

[Irrelephant11]

Flip me and you're one flip closer to a scum win.

I think we're at the point where we just kill all the non-clears and then get our town win
Sooo you're just first
If you're town that should be fine, yes?

[HeWhoSwims]

I generally don't like that but I guess I have no say here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Irrelephant11]

Right I mean same, I don't know much about the game leading up to this point so I'm just following the consensus not-clear vote

[Skygazer]

Side note: this is such an obvious town win that I would've conceded by now if I was scum

I've conceded before, I'd do it again

[the worst]

I think we lynch Nos here for the {MoI, Nos, Chickadee} slot information

[HeWhoSwims]

That's a pretty good plan.

[the worst]

fistbump Harold#2

Gotchu fam

[Chickadee]

I think we lynch Nos here for the {MoI, Nos, Chickadee} slot information

MOI is dead dear. You killed that slot. That was Kokichi.

[HeWhoSwims]

It still confirms you though.

[Chickadee]

Yup. I read it wrong. I'm silly.

I'm fiiiine. Ok. I'm good. Back to doing my own thing. I'll try to get in the swing of things when I'm not doing a dozen other things right after waking up.

[Nosferatu]

why would you kill someone for info on chick if you're lynching chick regardless lmfao

[Nosferatu]

just lynch me cause you think im scum it aint that controversial damn

[the worst]

More like if yoire up in LyLo and you ARE town we're gonna lose over the sheer WIFOM man

[Ausuka]

More like if yoire up in LyLo and you ARE town we're gonna lose over the sheer WIFOM man

I mean we could lynch hws and you could just shoot nosf. There's no need to worry about LYLO.

[Raskolnikov]

Okay

I think sky gets benefit of the doubt and we lynch hws and vig nos if game isnt over after the lynch

[Raskolnikov]

Actually idk mmmm

[the worst]

\o/

[Raskolnikov]

So if chick is scum, nos/andy town psychologist picked her n1 and chick knew or got lucky and claimed venge?
Either figuring it from play (maybe moi does this), claimed it coincidendally as wifom (moi did kinda gambit with claiming as he did), or rolecop or similar give it away
It doesn't seem likely but moi reinforcing andys result feels kinda gross in retrospect

[Chickadee]

I mean, I'm ok with being the lynch, but I am absolutely shooting HWS if I die.

[the worst]

So if chick is scum, nos/andy town psychologist picked her n1 and chick knew or got lucky and claimed venge?
Either figuring it from play (maybe moi does this), claimed it coincidendally as wifom (moi did kinda gambit with claiming as he did), or rolecop or similar give it away
It doesn't seem likely but moi reinforcing andys result feels kinda gross in retrospect

earlygame MoI/Chick interactions reeeeek of pocketing tho so my first impressions were like "ah lol chick is town BUT WAIT"
yeah literally anything is possible. it's a great claim but also like

town psych => town vengeful guilty
town detective => town vig guilty

both on n1 makes me emoji
possible but not probable

[Raskolnikov]

~Town
Detective
Loyal Fruit Vendor
Activatable BP
Protective(?)
Psychologist(?)
Venge(?)
Vig(?)

~Scum
Prime Night Jailkeeper (fairly strong)
Disloyal Fruit Vendor (not a strong role)
Goon
???????? Loud? Tracker? Rolecop?

HWS is probably informed regardless but as a role it doesnt feel strong enough to necessarily have to go either way


I'm trying to get in the head of pine here...
In a usual scenario, the fruit vendor does WAY LESS because of the mafia jailkeeper. Block either fv or target and FV maybe thinks its a guilty on the guy.
Detective psychologist.
The modified detective role here gamma claimed seems powerful. Sure maybe it gets vig (or SK) but finding if a scum has EVER killed? Very useful I think, although can't inno people.
Psychologist IDK seems really weird. Have trouble parsing it in a balance sense, weaker than det obviously and maybe could "false guilty" chick if she is town but eh
If anything this role claim might just be fake as it doesn't seem useful for scum to have this role either
vig is often wildcard as can often hit town early on instead of this game, but with the investigative power to PoE mod should maybe slightly realise vig is better functioning than usual here because of poe.
Given all the lack of kills it is somewhat likely there is some town kill blocking role as well, variations of which generally tend to be powerful (although JK seems to be ruled out)
I thought brass might have been a JOAT earlier but him just claiming to have more BP activations is kinda ehh

Why does MoI gambit day 2 with JK dead? Perhaps he made his mind to do so before any suggestion of ausukas existence?
If its not to put his partner in a better position, idk. Maybe for towncred himself, although then people wonder why he remains alive later.

I almost feel like scum have to have some kind of tracker or rolecop variant this game, and actually a multitasking FOLLOWS THE THEME of essentially all new normal-rule-roles

[Raskolnikov]

Oh yeah follower.

Follower might suggest scum tracker too if jingle is town