NY 213 - Game Over!

[Ankamius]

I don't disapprove of this wagon but don't end the day before I can analyze please

[wavemode]

the neighbors and masons weren't meant to be outed so early

but to avoid a late-game scenario where there are scum vs. 4-5 conftowns, they were given ample ability to PR-hunt

[Ankamius]

leaves Kublai Khan, Vaxkiller and JarJarDrinks.

ARGH, creature im friggin town! Look at my voting history!

VOTE: Kublai Khan

Town case yourself.

[Krazy]

2/2 scum is in kk, gr, vax, and vax is least likely of the three.

[Ankamius]

Why not Skygazer, Krazy

[JarJarDrinks]

the neighbors and masons weren't meant to be outed so early

but to avoid a late-game scenario where there are scum vs. 4-5 conftowns, they were given ample ability to PR-hunt

Why did they shoot into non-confirmeds twice then?

[Krazy]

I think wave was right about dave. Daves sig exit would only be explainable for scum if there was a breakdown in scum pt and how tf does that happen with no red flips at that point? Also I lowkey see drunkposting as a towntell,altho you are welcome to disagree on that

[Creature]

So there's something funky w/ this setup

Hahaha

[Creature]

would've been hillarious if I could see the scumchat.

[Creature]

Scum has:

Mafia Vanilla Cop
Mafia Backup Vanilla Cop
Mafia Universal Backup

Hmm...

Vanilla Cop dies, backup becomes it while UB untouched or backup dies and UB becomes it? Dunno.

[Creature]

Town must also be equally funky.

[Creature]

Why is it so important that scum has a vanilla cop?

Concept of PRs vs non-PRs?

[Ankamius]

Davesaz was very mad at me in another game, probably a significant reason as to why he replaced out of this game

[Creature]

leaves Kublai Khan, Vaxkiller and JarJarDrinks.

ARGH, creature im friggin town! Look at my voting history!

VOTE: Kublai Khan

The way you say it sounds fake though.

[Ankamius]

Guys I solved the setup yesterday

Backup vanilla cop only confirms it more

[Creature]

Oookay

Hmmm

Maybe I

should

reconsider

Spoiler:

Skygazer

[Creature]

Inb4 Kublai Khan is mafia backup backup vanilla cop

[Ankamius]

Can someone check when davesaz replaced out here and when he got lynched in Fallout (large theme, dw it's no longer ongoing like it was yesterday)?

If they're very similar times, then him replacing out here doesn't mean anything since he was threatening to leave the site or get himself banned the day he got lynched there

[Krazy]

Replace out

Done with mafia.
See my sig.
Adios.
Fuck you very much.

I mean Dave certainly made it seem like he was sincere. This is his post from this game.

Dave was lynched in Fallout on the 20th.

His replaceout from this game was on the 29th.

He was also playing in Project Pinecone, which is an ongoing game in which his slot has not flipped. He was also under pressure in that game, so

your objection that there may have been other factors is sustained

. It's reasonable to want other reasons for Sky to be town than simply Dave's replaceout.

Can you explain why you think Sky is suspicious? I'm not sure I understand your case atm.

[Ankamius]

I don't know if I can explain it in words very well, the best I can do offhand is that the same reasons apply to her as an Gamma, except even stronger

[Ankamius]

Refer to my sig

I'm kind of notorious for not being able to explain my reads very well since I'm a macro type player and they're macro reads

[Ankamius]

Let me rephrase

I figured out how scum should be playing the day yesterday and it incriminated Gamma Emerald and Skygazer

[Krazy]

Well the problem with Sky being scum is that it would require 2/3 of KK, GR, and Vax to be town, and at the moment I don't think that's terribly likely.

Beyond that, Sky's play has been slightly townier than her predecessors. I'm also not sure that Frozen Angel does so much word vomit in a low activity game state as scum close to deadline. While Dave's replaceout has wifom I still think it's more likely to be towntilt than scumtilt, and Lovebird had nothing. So I end up with three townleans and a null out of the four people who played the slot, which is a lot townier than any of the other three candidates we have left.

This doesn't really look like scum replacing in to me at a glance:

Based on the sheer number of my townreads on the lalendra wagon I'll likely end up there

Uhhh can you outline your town reads?

(For the townreads on the wagon:)
Hopkirk/Ausuka are confirmed
PP - main counterwagon to wheme
JJD - pushed wheme heavily/consistently
Tchill - like their presence in the past pages
Wave - don't have an opinion of this slot but if Ausuka isn't voting him it's good enough for me for now
Creature - apparently town for a lot of people through meta lately? I'm kind of fuzzy on the deets. Not convinced they're scum w wheme looking at the shenanigans at the end of D2, seemed kind of too blatant for scum?

It's kind of hard to form solid reads this early on into my replacement because I haven't had any interactions but this is good enough for me to sheep for now

Guys, texcat's progression onto dunn is pretty sus, he goes from townreading to suddenly scumreading for a single reason (4315), laid pretty low for most of his wagon, and then hopping on with the naked vote right when the Dunn wagon actually starts to pick up (4819) while his wagon is dying down.

VOTE: texcat

(Sorry for not really participating, I'm going to actively try to change that. I'm technically caught up but just feel so far behind and I kind of feel super out of my element considering I'm one of the newest people here and probably one of the worst scum hunters here. I'll actively work to change my activity levels)

[Ankamius]

4888 is independently scummy, thanks for pointing it out

[Ankamius]

GR is town

They were the hail mary wagon for scum when there was an opening to save Gamma

If GR was also scum, either another target would've been chosen to try to wagon or scum would've just let Gamma die (unlikely the latter since I don't think scum would've predicted I'd dig in my heels on that lynch like I did)