NY 213 - Game Over!

[TehBrawlGuy]

it's less the initial push and more that IIRC you didn't stop after the raised eyebrows

town can basically just wait and prove their towniness later (i'm a great example of that this game actually, especially since you weren't in immediate danger, but scum want to be in the bloc asap to try to solidify there/avoid PoE later

[Golden Robster]

Maybe we should be lynching outside the 2 of us.

edit i typed this out then the above 4 posts happened

nice try; now you want to lynch someone else as soon as I town the fuck up and you see zero openings

[TehBrawlGuy]

there shouldn't be a townblock; every player should be scrutinised especially given how these past two scum lynches have happened

by CFD's

we could continue the streak and cfd to creature today

i'm just sayin' cfd's have been pretty on fire this game

[TehBrawlGuy]

TBH, creature had a chance to lynch me I was at L1...

and?

if he's town that makes sense
if he's scum and you're scum that makes sense
if he's scum and you're town, that still makes sense b/c he wasn't on the chopping block, and gr is also a mislynch so he doesn't care which way it swings

[TehBrawlGuy]

like the only situation where creature not hammering is AI is if Creature+GR is the scumteam and I don't think we're in that universe

[Vaxkiller]

TBH, creature had a chance to lynch me I was at L1...

and?

if he's town that makes sense
if he's scum and you're scum that makes sense
if he's scum and you're town, that still makes sense b/c he wasn't on the chopping block, and gr is also a mislynch so he doesn't care which way it swings

I guess you have a scum-explanation for his recent vote as well?

[TehBrawlGuy]

honestly I have no fucking clue why anyone of either alignment does that, so I'm not gonna pretend I do

[Vaxkiller]

TBH, creature had a chance to lynch me I was at L1...

and?

if he's town that makes sense
if he's scum and you're scum that makes sense
if he's scum and you're town, that still makes sense b/c he wasn't on the chopping block, and gr is also a mislynch so he doesn't care which way it swings

I totally disagree with this.

[Vaxkiller]

honestly I have no fucking clue why anyone of either alignment does that, so I'm not gonna pretend I do

BUT YOU DO PRETEND TO YOU JUST SAID IT MADE SENSE.

[Vaxkiller]

im sorry for yelling, i just got triggered or whatever.

[Golden Robster]

Wavemode is still alive because he has no presence and until today, was shielding a scum that pocketed him

take a look at this anka

vax is always town here, sorry to say

and Vaxkiller almost certainly town

Frozen Angel
Vaxkiller
Creature

JarJar

/Wavemode/

Tchill

/

Vax

this is hilarious because I would townblock with this group of people

vax having even less scum equity

what makes you think my TR of vax has anything to do with you?

[TehBrawlGuy]

honestly I have no fucking clue why anyone of either alignment does that, so I'm not gonna pretend I do

BUT YOU DO PRETEND TO YOU JUST SAID IT MADE SENSE.

how did you manage to misread when all I posted was 4 sentences

creature not hammering you back then makes sense
creature voting JJD right now does not make sense

neither of these are alignment indicative

[Golden Robster]

+ then add on the fact that wavemode had gamma as locktown for 6 days straight + had JJD and Vax as strong town for the majority of days

from scum point of view conf!town wavemode is a liability for town given hopkirk and flavor were NK'd over him which fits what you just said

[TehBrawlGuy]

oooooh that's a spicy post by GR

[Golden Robster]

oooooh that's a spicy post by GR

preach it tbg

[Ankamius]

That's more a support argument that would cement that associative more than be the backbone of a case on it

But that specifically can be worked out later, I'm not entirely against being wrong on at least one scumread, but that's the type of thing that's very plausible to be correct but isn't provable without Vax flipping

[Krazy]

So let's review:

What evidence is there that GR is town?

None.
-We already know scum committed to bussing Wheme, and GR joined on Wheme after the wagon was already fully formed.
-GR did NOT bus texcat but used WIFOM to argue that she wouldn't
-GR was put into a position where she has to crossbus after the texcat vote because the masons and townblock had grown too large

Where is the evidence that GR is scum?

Everywhere.
-GR Is constantly playing up scumhunting theater while rarely developing reads into sustained arguments and rarely getting wagon support for her pushes. Remember, when she is town, she pushes to get people to join her wagons and sheep her vote.
-She goes out of her way to foreground 'active town play' with little barrages of small posts
-She is constantly unvoting and revoting, always playing up her decision making process rather than emphasizing the pressure she's putting on wagons
-She is constantly tweaking her own little lists to play up her appearance of sorting while never actually committing to half her reads
-Her development on texcat is totally incoherent and her counter-push on Scion was inconceivable for a town!GR
-Texcat's interactions with her are forced and very puffery, and always include an additional response to JJD because texcat doesn't trust herself to only respond to a scumbuddy
-Gamma's interactions with her are incredibly fake and totally at odds with how both vote
-She has unloaded a massive wave of AtE and why-meisms as soon as she was under pressure which is TOTALLY consistent with how she plays scum when she's under pressure

This is not a wall.

Interact here TBG.

GR is fake. Look at how many times she goes, "oh, scum wouldn't bus here." But then look at her explanation of texcat. "Oh, if I was scum I'd definitely bus here." So GR sees busses as implausible all the time but then when she thinks about how SHE plays scum she decides that of course she would bus. This too is cognitive dissonance.

Remember the structure of her argument when she pushed back against your case against JJD. Then compare that to how she defends herself on texcat. The arguments are irreconcilable.

[Ankamius]

Sigh

[Ankamius]

I really don't know what to tell you Krazy

But this is a tunnel

Reset.

[TehBrawlGuy]

yes your

11 points

GR is scum (that I would have to go dig through her iso to refute any of) is clearly not a wall

[Krazy]

GIVE ME FUCKING ONE ON WHY SHE IS TOWN THEN

JUST FUCKING ONE

[Krazy]

Do you remember Hopkirk? Every day fucking "texcat is town man, seems towny"

krazy: WHY

no response

TEXCAT FLIPS SCUM

every day

Krazy: GR is scum fam

TBG/Ank: nah GR town

Krazy: WHY

*crickets*

[Ankamius]

If you want to go that road

My confident preferred wagons have all been on scum

[Ankamius]

Plus those wagons all were hard to push through (:

[Krazy]

YEAH, WHEN THEY AGREED WITH MY FOURTH POST OF THE GAME

STOP TOOTING YOUR OWN HORN, MY EARLY READS HAVE FUCKING BEEN BETTER THAN YOURS ANK

ACCUSE ME OF TUNNELING AGAIN AND I VOTE YOU PURELY OUT OF SPITE

GIVE ME AN ARGUMENT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP