micro 816-II: pokemon go (open game) (gambe over)

[Shoshin]

I'm fine doing any of Maria, Kokichi or Nico.

Why not Profii?

[Shoshin]

My wiki is pretty outdated I cringe.

Meh, Creature probably doesn't say this as scum. He's town.

[Shoshin]

Stun's turn off Profii is terrible. What the fuck was that, Stun?

[northsidegal]

I'm saying you're scum, NSG.

if i'm scum then the statement "nsg suspects me because i'm not around" is a contradiction

you're implying that i'm both scum

and

that my reasons for suspecting you are genuine - that is, genuine in the sense of not being made up

Why do you townread Profii?

-shrug-

i think he's lynchbait.

[Creature]

If someone could do the favor of deleting it, I would thank.

[Creature]

Oh ffs stupid preview

[northsidegal]

you cannot logically genuinely hold both the position that I scumread you for activity and that i'm scum

it doesn't make sense. it's contradictory

[Creature]

Wished we could like lynch scum.

[Creature]

MariaR, Kokichi, Nico is like 1/3 chance of lynching town

MariaR is likely scum but likely no one will do anything about it, so 1/2 chance of lynching town

[Shoshin]

-shrug-

i think he's lynchbait.

What the fuck is this? How is he lynchbait?

The fact that a couple of strong players want to lynch him (e.g. RC, Maria) doesn't make him lynchbait.

How do you have a solid poe when you don't even have a clear townread on Profii?

[Creature]

and that's not counting me to the equation

[Shoshin]

you cannot logically genuinely hold both the position that I scumread you for activity and that i'm scum

it doesn't make sense. it's contradictory

No contradiction... The position is that you know I'm town and the scumread is fake. Or "bullshit," as I said before. Town shouldn't scumread me in this situation. Some light paranoia based on activity? That's fine. A full out scumread based content when the content is fine, no. That's a fake read.

[Shoshin]

MariaR is likely scum but likely no one will do anything about it, so 1/2 chance of lynching town

Why is Maria scum? Her posts seem towny as fuck to me. The conversations with RC don't feel faked at all, and RC wouldn't be weighing in to that extent on this game if he were scum. Not to mention that RC was towny as fuck throughout his posting in the early points of this game, and everything Maria's doing is pretty much how she plays?

[northsidegal]

i don't think i've never seen someone respond to being scumread by just countering and saying their own content is fine

not much of an argument to be had i guess

[Shoshin]

NSG's belief that I contradicted myself is weird, too.

Like, there's a very clear progression here. I thought she was town who had some paranoia of me based on inactivity. I wouldn't have cared about that and even said it was okay for her to suspect me a bit at that point in the game. But then I learn that she suspects me based on content, not inactivity. At which point I realize something is off about her. I skim some of her other posts and realize she's defending Profii for bullshit reasons that she can't even come up with. I realize her reads are fake. And so I start suspecting her. And then she says I'm contradicting myself because I happen to have a progression to my reads? That's scummy in itself. Like, she's not looking at the obvious town tells in front of her because she's pushing a lazy theory of me and Kokichi as scum without actually doing any real scumhunting or townhunting.

I'd lynch NSG today. Profii/NSG makes the most sense to me at this point.

[Creature]

MariaR is likely scum but likely no one will do anything about it, so 1/2 chance of lynching town

Why is Maria scum? Her posts seem towny as fuck to me. The conversations with RC don't feel faked at all, and

RC wouldn't be weighing in to that extent on this game if he were scum.

Not to mention that RC was towny as fuck throughout his posting in the early points of this game, and everything Maria's doing is pretty much how she plays?

Are you sure?

[Creature]

I'm well aware Maria prefers being scum over town

[Shoshin]

Hey Creature, I'd like to know if I'm missing something, so please answer my question.

[Creature]

There's like a tell where if MariaR is engaged she's scum and when it feels like she doesn't want to play the game she's town.

[Shoshin]

I don't see why a preference for scum makes someone scum. The slot could have received two town PMs.

I also disagree with that, since I just played a game where Maria was pretty engaged and town.

[Creature]

It's a typical case of player that tends to be scumread as town but not as scum.

[Creature]

I don't see why a preference for scum makes someone scum. The slot could have received two town PMs.

It's not that.

There are just players that play more vividly as scum than as town.

[northsidegal]

And then she says I'm contradicting myself because I happen to have a progression to my reads?

patently, unambiguously false. it's not even an argument to be had that that is not what i'm saying. i'm saying you're contradicting yourself because you're accusing me of doing something that only makes sense if i'm town while also calling me scum.

if i'm scum then my read on you is entirely fabricated in the first place, but that's not what you were arguing. you said that my read on you was because of different reasons than i was saying - which implies that there's still a reason, which implies that i'm town.

i'd like someone else to weigh in on this, because

i

feel like this is pretty cut and dry, but i want to hear what other people think.

That's scummy in itself. Like, she's not looking at the obvious town tells in front of her

would you mind pointing out those town tells? i don't think you ever actually responded to me asking what the stark differences between your town and scum meta were. i still have an open mind - if there really are those differences then i'll look into them.

[Shoshin]

NSG, I said the read is fabricated. Do you understand the meaning of the word "bullshit"?

[Shoshin]

NSG saying that I'm scummy because of content is bullshit. My content is fine. She suspects me because I'm not around, period.

Saying otherwise is bullshit.

And so is her read on Profii. I don't see how she's townreading that.

Do you see the bolded part? That's where I say what you're doing is bullshit.