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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:55 pm

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to win this game 100% of the time I do in fact need to go above and beyond and going above and beyond is I think the point of being an excellent scumplayer but I digress
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:58 pm

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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:59 pm

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dunno. I'm overexplaining my thought process because i don't feel like having this be a game where I play dictator.
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:01 pm

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If i were to put it into words, anony feels underwhelming.
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:02 pm

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In post 528, Sakura Hana wrote:If i were to put it into words, anony feels underwhelming.
that's how I feel about you a bit

I never played with her before so IDK what to expect. if you can phrase your scumread on her on something more substantial than "underwhelming" I can understand better where you're coming from.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:03 pm

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I feel like she's sayings to try to seem reasonable and like she's scumhunting but that she actually to me feels forced and LAMIST and I think if she were town she'd have a lot more personality than she does.

Sure, Sakura Hana is underwhelming in the sense that she isn't locktown yet, maybe? But actively scumreading anything she has done this game is strange.
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:05 pm

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In post 529, Toranaga wrote:
In post 528, Sakura Hana wrote:If i were to put it into words, anony feels underwhelming.
that's how I feel about you a bit

I never played with her before so IDK what to expect. if you can phrase your scumread on her on something more substantial than "underwhelming" I can understand better where you're coming from.
Well Fallout mafia was a thing, and while that hydra was made of both RC and Anony, I feel like she'd have done more by now than being just focused on mechanics.
It COULD be that im attributing too much to what was actually RC's doing, but if RC's hydra'd with Anony, then I trust RC's ability to read Anony too.
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:07 pm

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Anony had thoughts in fallout that were both better than her thoughts here and, I'll say somewhat garbled and non-linear and she had a very roundabout approach to things

which I have no complaints about, I understood her with effort, this game she's just very mechanical and point-proof-comment about everything and that's not what i've seen of her towngame.
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:10 pm

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ok. I don't know her at all to make or judge any of these arguments
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:10 pm

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Also I have never had the impression that Sakura Hana's scumgame was specifically underwhelming as scum in the way that you're calling it underwhelming here.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:11 pm

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Like definitely underwhleming but I'd say that scum sakura is usually least underwhelming in the sense that you're calling her underwhelming and most underwhelming in the ways that she's performing well here
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:11 pm

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I never saw her play as scum

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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:11 pm

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In post 534, RadiantCowbells wrote:Also I have never had the impression that Sakura Hana's scumgame was specifically underwhelming as scum in the way that you're calling it underwhelming here.
I dont even remember when was the last time i played scum vs you xD
I think it was a Marquis mini.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:13 pm

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Maybe I know that you're scum but I'm trying to establish a ground rule for our future games together where we leave each other alone when we scumread each other :o
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:14 pm

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also I sat there the entire marquis mini saying that you were scum and the dumb town wouldn't listen so :shrug:
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:20 pm

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In post 510, Toranaga wrote:I'm sitting here with 0 scumreads and reading isn't helping me get anywhere
Can you elaborate on why popo is 'fine' instead of null?

Also townreading moment seems too fast. He/she had townie looking posts but it was very early in the game and he/she hasn't commenting on the later stuff yet.

One small thing that pinged me about AG was how quickly she confirmed the blazblu world neighbors. Just feels like an easy way to look helpful. Nobody questioned sakura on it or contradicted her so why the eagerness to claim it? But nothing else seems particularly scum-indicative but I don't know her meta so meh
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:27 pm

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In any case, Tora, I suggest you give a read to Forgotten Hourglass when you can.
If you think im underwhelming now, im probably gonna get even more underwhelming until i can recover from that.
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:29 pm

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VOTE: koki tora seems aight for now.

Koki from my experience has always had a lot of reasons and conviction when scumreading me. He doesn't sound very confident and his lack of substantial reasoning while voting this game looks bad.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:31 am

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In post 483, RadiantCowbells wrote:because I don't think that her response to me scumreading her as town here is ;)
I've learned - from second hand experience - that trying to fight a scum read by RC is like trying to fight a tidal wave. It's in your best interest to not do it, otherwise you're going to tire yourself out.

ATM I can't afford to mentally tire myself out cause I need all the brainpower I can get for RL stuff.
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:32 am

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In post 488, Toranaga wrote:or why AG would townread him for thinking it.
When people notice stuff, especially things that I haven't noticed or no one else has, I attribute that to town because I think it implies game solving/combing through the thread to find scum.
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:34 am

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In post 482, Toranaga wrote:penguin can be town as well now
Explain please?
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:36 am

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In post 510, Toranaga wrote:I'm sitting here with 0 scumreads and reading isn't helping me get anywhere
Talk to me about your town reads then.
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:42 am

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In post 532, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'll say somewhat garbled and non-linear and she had a very roundabout approach to things
Accurate.
In post 532, RadiantCowbells wrote:that's not what i've seen of her towngame.
And this is the part where I'm skeptical. Then again, maybe I'm thinking that you're orange - like me - when you're really an apple who has a good grasp of someone's town/scum meta on the first try.
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:48 am

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In post 540, BuJaber wrote:One small thing that pinged me about AG was how quickly she confirmed the blazblu world neighbors. Just feels like an easy way to look helpful. Nobody questioned sakura on it or contradicted her so why the eagerness to claim it? But nothing else seems particularly scum-indicative but I don't know her meta so meh
This feels sus.

It's a little bit of grasping at straws - what happened to the multi-ball and scum!Anon if Town!RC angle? - and a little bit of you're putting some of your eggs into the Ghost-lynch basket, but then you have this step back of 'well I don't know her meta' which I could see coming from scum looking for an excuse to justify being on a mislynch.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:52 am

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I'm justifying to myself why I'm not attacking people for suspecting you. As it stands I don't have enough reason to defend you nor do I have enough reason to vote for you.
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