Open 735: Watchmen Wanted - Game Over!

[Keyser Söze]

Is everyone here or are we still waiting for catchups/replacements?

[Flicker]

Votecount 1.09

volxen (5)

- Reundo 220, Irrelephant11 221, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Ausuka 239

2 718281828459 (2)

- Kop 194, volxen 237

Dunnstral (1)

- northsidegal 170

Sesq (1)

- Dunnstral 117

Not voting: [GameNBurger], Toranaga 110, 2 718281828459 151

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

Mod notes

• - If anyone else would like to try finding a replacement for GameNBurger's slot, I'd really appreciate it.

[Keyser Söze]

volxen/sesq/271 all fine lynches

I could case them all if I had the motivation to do so

You gonna add your case on Volxen while there is a wagon on him?

[2 718281828459]

I think I have too much going on for me to handle, so I will be

replacing out

.

[volxen]

So Apparently, having reads and trying to help gamesolve is scummier than, say, doing absolutely nothing and actively lurking while being blatantly apathetic about it. Let’s look at 2.718’s, Toranaga’s and Sesq’s recent posts:

2.718:

in 182, he declares that

nothing

is worth his attention. I mean, what exactly was the purpose of this post? To prod dodge? Or is it more along the lines of “hey I probably could gamesolve, but it’s just not worth my time”? Whatever the case, it certainly didn’t contribute anything. Blatant active lurking and apathy.

And then in 215, he asks “everyone else” to get some wagons going because he finds the game to be getting “boring”. So rather than doing something productive himself, he is simply expecting

everyone else

to produce content. Again, blatant active lurking and apathy.

In 231, instead of helping to gamesolve he gives excuses for why he

isn’t

helping to gamesolve. Blatant active lurking and apathy.

Toranaga:

In 190, he literally admits to not having any interest in this game and blames it on everyone else. Again, a case of someone expecting everyone else to make the game interesting, rather than producing meaningful content themselves. Blatant active lurking and apathy.

In 192 he namedrops me, Sesq, and 2.718 as his scumreads, only to say that he could case all of us,

if only

he had the motivation to do so. He’s carrying himself with this “I don’t give a shit about this game, but if I did I could easily gamesolve the whole thing” attitude. Blatant active lurking and apathy.

218 and 241 are just fluffposts.

In 243, he once again reinforces his lack of motivation in this game. Blatant active lurking and apathy.

Sesq:

He votes for me in 222, with no explanation other than “Yeah, I can see that”. Then in 249, he declares that he might as well vote for me because, hey, he didn’t have any of his own scumreads anyways. What is he trying to say here, that he doesn’t think for himself and try to gamesolve, but rather just goes with the flow? Blatant active lurking and apathy.

We’ve got multiple people who are engaged in blatant active lurking and complete apathy towards this game, and yet I’m the first one to even bring it up in this post. Why is that?

[Irrelephant11]

I definitely don't feel like you're the first to bring it up????? Half the conversation has been "why is this so quiet"

VOTE: Toranaga

[Irrelephant11]

@Volxen in your previous readslist why did you include more nullreads than scum or town reads?

[Flicker]

I think I have too much going on for me to handle, so I will be

replacing out

.

Noted.

Searching for 2 718281828459's replacement.

[Kop]

I don't even know if I want to ask for a deadline extension with 2 replacements waiting to be introduced to the game.

[Kop]

We've got just over 3 days to gain a lynch. Right now, I'm still happy to have my vote where it is, even though the slot is being replaced.

[Irrelephant11]

Would you consider a toranaga vote as well

[Kop]

Would you consider a toranaga vote as well

What's your case on Torangaga?

[Irrelephant11]

I mean you empty sheeped me onto 2.718 so why not onto Toranaga as well?

[Kop]

I mean you empty sheeped me onto 2.718 so why not onto Toranaga as well?

I already stated that I was willing to vote for numbers before you placed your vote, so yes you were the first to vote there, but theoretically I could ask you a similar question.

[Irrelephant11]

I'd vote for numbers, because he is a one that stood out to me, from the quick glance,

I mean if you think I was sheeping your "reasoning" here or your interest in voting him you're wrong. I clearly started the wagon on him because of his refusal to be productive, and you almost immediately followed with a vote without comment.

Whatever that's a fruitless argument and I'll concede that your vote had some "progression" before I voted the slot. I townread you anyway so I'll drop it

I am interested in voting Toranaga because I think he's playing similarly to 2.718, but he's doing the scummy things

second

. I guess Tor has slightly better pushing, but I think a wagon on a slot getting replaced is a bad choice

[Irrelephant11]

whatever if keyser/kop/ausuka/nsg mostly come to a consensus I'll vote there. I'm V/LA-ish from now till Monday

[Keyser Söze]

@volxen

Are you saying that those three players are scummy for contributing to the apathy/lurking that festers in this game? Or are you just pissed off for being s/read; being our first wagon?

[Irrelephant11]

Reundo is probably town too

[Flicker]

The worst replaces GameNBurger, effective immediately.

[the worst]

quack quack

[the worst]

woah that ms paint chikorita dude is a lot smarter than me

[the worst]

@Keyser did you actually understand what my predecessor was saying on page 1?
also, are you town?

[the worst]

nsg<3 what are your reads?

[the worst]

Anyone played this setup before?

I.e what’s the best way to play it... does hypoclaiming help town or scum?

And while we’re all saying hello, what are your opinions on how to deal with lurkers.

please Please townread me

This was a page one question intended to be answered before we enter serious/non-RVS gameplay.

You shouldn’t see it as an attempt to look ‘townie’: it’s as non-alignment indicative as say a player asking if there is scum day chat - why are you being lazy/shortsighted?

What? Asking if there's scum day chat would be an entirely useless question since you can just skim through the role PMs and find the answer yourself. That would actually lean more scum imo since it would seem like a pretty shitty attempt at a dumb-tell. I don't think it would be too unreasonable for someone to town-read you for trying to strike up conversation, or to think it's just a facade by that same reasoning.

That’s your first post...?

VOTE: Reundo

good vote

[the worst]

is E scum with Reundo?
would that be too easy?