Ircher's Large Normal Review, May 2018


Forum rules
User avatar
RadiantCowbells
RadiantCowbells
Smooth Criminal
User avatar
User avatar
RadiantCowbells
Smooth Criminal
Smooth Criminal
Posts: 70566
Joined: February 24, 2013
Contact:

Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 12:42 pm

Post by RadiantCowbells »

This is an unusual setup and I want time to think about it sorry.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
User avatar
RadiantCowbells
RadiantCowbells
Smooth Criminal
User avatar
User avatar
RadiantCowbells
Smooth Criminal
Smooth Criminal
Posts: 70566
Joined: February 24, 2013
Contact:

Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 12:45 pm

Post by RadiantCowbells »

In post 23, Ircher wrote:Oh yeah, can we clarify exactly how Enabler works in terms of the normal guidelines (especially in terms of backup enablers (Universal Backup here)).

My interpretation is that as long as at least one Enabler is alive, players can use their night action. (Thus, if the Mafia UB inherits the enabler ability, mafia can still use the Vanilla Cop ability). But that comes with a issue: the flip of an enabler leaves PRs affected by the Enabler in the dark about whether they can use their role. My solution here is to automatically return "No Result" to a role that is no longer enabled, but that has issues as well if players aren't aware of this.

If my interpretation here about enablers is wrong (i.e.: if an enabler dies, all roles enabled by it are disabled regardless of the existence of another enabler), then I'm fine with that as well; I just want to clarify.
Implo as normal listmod we could use a verdict on this btw.

If there's an enabler and a backup to said enabler it works as normal right? And you should specifically make sure enabled PRS know they're still active on an enabler flip.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
User avatar
implosion
implosion
he/him
Polymath
User avatar
User avatar
implosion
he/him
Polymath
Polymath
Posts: 13497
Joined: September 9, 2010
Pronoun: he/him
Location: zoraster's wine cellar

Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 12:46 pm

Post by implosion »

I agree with that interpretation.
User avatar
implosion
implosion
he/him
Polymath
User avatar
User avatar
implosion
he/him
Polymath
Polymath
Posts: 13497
Joined: September 9, 2010
Pronoun: he/him
Location: zoraster's wine cellar

Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 12:50 pm

Post by implosion »

That said, it is ambiguous and once this game is done there should be some ruling made for the future publicly~
User avatar
Ircher
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
User avatar
User avatar
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
What A Grand Idea
Posts: 14133
Joined: November 9, 2015
Pronoun: He / Him / His
Location: CST/CDT

Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 3:28 pm

Post by Ircher »

Alright, I'll implement the Enabler as specified in post #26. Let me know if you need anything else.
Links: User Page | Player Ratings | GTKAS | Test
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
User avatar
Ircher
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
User avatar
User avatar
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
What A Grand Idea
Posts: 14133
Joined: November 9, 2015
Pronoun: He / Him / His
Location: CST/CDT

Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 3:48 pm

Post by Ircher »

Oh, prob. should go ahead and state that I have a week long V/LA coming up in a week where I wouldnt be able to start the game if it filled.

I don't think my game would fill in that time tbh esp. given the current site state, but I'm just going ahead and noting this now.
Links: User Page | Player Ratings | GTKAS | Test
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
User avatar
RadiantCowbells
RadiantCowbells
Smooth Criminal
User avatar
User avatar
RadiantCowbells
Smooth Criminal
Smooth Criminal
Posts: 70566
Joined: February 24, 2013
Contact:

Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 4:21 pm

Post by RadiantCowbells »

Okay.

I'll pass the setup as is then

I'll do a final once over before this game actually goes to queue but I'm willing to pass the setup
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
User avatar
implosion
implosion
he/him
Polymath
User avatar
User avatar
implosion
he/him
Polymath
Polymath
Posts: 13497
Joined: September 9, 2010
Pronoun: he/him
Location: zoraster's wine cellar

Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 8:45 pm

Post by implosion »

It's going to queue tomorrow, so :p

But yeah, so long as the setup is passed, feel free to make adjustments during the queueing so long as you both agree on them. It's a big game so it'll probably take a while to fill, but if it does fill, then whatever version was approved will be used.
User avatar
Ircher
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
User avatar
User avatar
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
What A Grand Idea
Posts: 14133
Joined: November 9, 2015
Pronoun: He / Him / His
Location: CST/CDT

Post Post #33 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 9:52 am

Post by Ircher »

Can Not Known 15 get access to this thread? They agreed to be my backup mod.
Links: User Page | Player Ratings | GTKAS | Test
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
User avatar
implosion
implosion
he/him
Polymath
User avatar
User avatar
implosion
he/him
Polymath
Polymath
Posts: 13497
Joined: September 9, 2010
Pronoun: he/him
Location: zoraster's wine cellar

Post Post #34 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 5:37 pm

Post by implosion »

added.
User avatar
Ircher
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
User avatar
User avatar
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
What A Grand Idea
Posts: 14133
Joined: November 9, 2015
Pronoun: He / Him / His
Location: CST/CDT

Post Post #35 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:56 pm

Post by Ircher »

@Radiant: If I were to reveal this setup as being singleball, how would that affect balance, if at all?
(As in, would that be acceptable or no? I'm fine either way, but I had a person asking about if the game was multiball, so......
Links: User Page | Player Ratings | GTKAS | Test
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
User avatar
RadiantCowbells
RadiantCowbells
Smooth Criminal
User avatar
User avatar
RadiantCowbells
Smooth Criminal
Smooth Criminal
Posts: 70566
Joined: February 24, 2013
Contact:

Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2018 12:34 am

Post by RadiantCowbells »

I think the game is fine with faction numbers public
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
User avatar
Ircher
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
User avatar
User avatar
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
What A Grand Idea
Posts: 14133
Joined: November 9, 2015
Pronoun: He / Him / His
Location: CST/CDT

Post Post #37 (ISO) » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:46 pm

Post by Ircher »

The game is over!
Links: User Page | Player Ratings | GTKAS | Test
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
User avatar
Ircher
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
User avatar
User avatar
Ircher
He / Him / His
What A Grand Idea
What A Grand Idea
Posts: 14133
Joined: November 9, 2015
Pronoun: He / Him / His
Location: CST/CDT

Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:07 am

Post by Ircher »

(Going to post these links simply to facilitate easy access to the game for future readers.)
1. Game Thread
2. Mod PT
3. Mafia PT
4. Neighborhood PT
5. Mason PT
6. Dead/Spectator PT
7. Review PT
8. Ankamius's PT - Created on request.
9. Krazy's PT - Created on request.
Links: User Page | Player Ratings | GTKAS | Test
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Post Reply