I would like to begin this post by saying that RC would totally Russell Hantz it on Survivor and while he is still a townread he is not locktown anymore. There, I said it. Moving on.
In post 251, xRECKONERx wrote:i read up to page 7 then realized nothing was happening so i skipped the last 4 pages
yea im a doublevoter but only for the first person i vote each day
Same question
In post 263, Shoshin wrote:I think Gacha should be me, but if not me, then it should be Radiant. It should not be Kokichi, and it definitely shouldn't be Reck who isn't even reading the game.
So the only way Shoshin is scum is if it's with RC I think but for now neither of them is scum so yeah Shoshin should get gachapon votes
In post 267, Kokichi Oma wrote: In post 264, Varsoon wrote:Hated's a trash modifier that indicates design-flaw and should probably be lynched regardless, as I'm reading hated as more likely scum than town in this setup.
But also I don't like Kokichi's main focus being on getting Gacha and mentions of himself as town/townread.
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Firstpost far too much tips at the role PM being red (thinking he was scum) that it strikes me as scum trying to manufacture a 'townslip' based on how peculiar they thought the sample role/their fakeclaim was in looks. Need to go back to the previous game, though, and see if the different color formatting/fakeclaims is in the mod meta, though, otherwise regardless it just bothers me.
This is such a
trash
breakdown
I get it
Umm yeah this analysis of Kokichi isn't very good and I'm at this point already scumreading Varsoon but I will say I wouldn't be surprised if scum was more than happy to jump on Varsoon's case here if he's town - it's overly easy to take apart.
In post 268, Varsoon wrote: In post 265, Kokichi Oma wrote:Hey Varsoon, are you going to vote Shoshin for saying he should get Gacha votes?
'cus Shoshin doesn't strike me as scum, just gullible.
In post 263, Shoshin wrote:I think Gacha should be me, but if not me, then it should be Radiant. It should not be Kokichi, and it definitely shouldn't be Reck who isn't even reading the game.
Reck's reading--if you think he's not, you've been duped.
Gullible??
Duped???
Like yeah Reck is probably reading but I don't know who's doing the duping in this scenario
And yeah I can see how you're disagreeing with Shoshin given your very opposite view of the game state but who is the one tricking Shoshin, who seems to actually be the one leading many players to various reads?
disagree, but you can be town
fair
maybe soon we'll find out
In post 303, Varsoon wrote:@Skitter:
I have a hard townread on Reck.
Furthermore, I didn't like the way the gacha votes were going and wanted to throw a wrench in that. Even furthermore, I knew the positions re: Reckoner and Gatcha and knew if I came in with a starkly different opinion that it would create discussion and game momentum. It's the best way for me to get involved in the game, too, because before these last few posts I haven't really been engaged.
I read the whole game when it happened but have not since returned to it.
I'm not saying you are pocketed, just that it stinks of testing a pocket--like seeing how far you'd townread a claimed townread.
Shoshin's rhetoric (both in explaining their own play and convincing others) has been very straightforward--I 100% believe that Shoshin saw Reck write that he wasn't reading and took that to be literally true. Shoshin did not push Reck for further game engagement or read the 'not reading' thing as a strat to not engage with a few pages of content; Shoshin seems to, again, have just taken it literally.
-Hard townread on Reck? Why? Role spec?
-I have no clue what you're trying to say about Shoshin here
In post 310, Varsoon wrote: In post 307, Kokichi Oma wrote: In post 303, Varsoon wrote:I have a hard townread on Reck. Furthermore, I didn't like the way the gacha votes were going and wanted to throw a wrench in that. Even furthermore, I knew the positions re: Reckoner and Gatcha and knew if I came in with a starkly different opinion that it would create discussion and game momentum.
This is kind of a contradiciton? Because you're saying that you townread him. So why should it matter why you put the gacha vote. But, then you state later you just voted him for it to create a discussion. But, you still aren't even explaining why you townread reck
The fuck I gotta explain a townread for?
And it's hardly a contradiction to townread someone and gacha vote someone and say that I did it all to also create discussion.
I don't ever have to claim any of my reads and I could've held my gacha vote, too.
C'mon, step it up senpai. You're too busy tryin'a poke holes in me that you're just looking desperate.
kokichi makes a fair point that "it was for townread" and "it was for discussion", while not directly contradictory, do seem to both be fighting for space in your mind, like you can't decide which it is. not sure I scumread it, but I do scumread you refusing to explain a townread. Unless it gives scum setup info it's always good to explain a townread. It's often even good to explain a nullread, for that matter
In post 318, Shoshin wrote:Varsoon's scum because he thinks that Kokichi's faking a townslip when the natural interpretation of Kokichi's beahvior is that he's just commenting on the color, which isn't indicative either way. Varsoon's logic comes from the scum perspective of someone who himself wanted to fake a townslip by commenting on the red color, then saw that someone else already commented on the red color, and so interpreted that behavior as scummy because it was something he himself wanted to do as scum. No townie would ever interpret Kokichi's behavior as a "scummy fake townslip," it just doesn't make any sense unless Varsoon himself is scum who had that instinct himself.
The Reck townread is crap, too.
You get really strong reads from small things and while it's impressive it's not 100% accurate and I'd just like to note that here so I remember to measure Varsoon against my own gut/logic and not just your thoughts.
At the same time, I have come to a pretty similar conclusion on his slot so far so this is fine.
In post 324, Varsoon wrote:@Skitter: Oh! You meant this game! I thought you meant the previous game with the Adventure Zone flavor. Yes--I've also been reading this entire game as it's been posted.
I guess that I've played the 'lets discuss this mechanic's best use' card a lot as scum (see: Color Mafia games) and I've seen scum do it a lot early-game in my own public-mechanic heavy games, so it's a strategy I tend to associate with scum.
Shoshin is for sure sincere, but I feel like they're not looking beyond what people are saying at face-value.
Sorry if my tone is weird--I'm probably gonna be really weird this game in general since I'm working full time which is usually not something I've done while playing mafia. So we'll see how it goes.
The tone apology here is interesting. I definitely read this post as being a different tone. I'm curious if you'd think to make a tone switch as scum v. naturally make a tone switch as town
In post 367, Porkens wrote:VOTE: unvote
I'm townreading RC now. more posts make it clearer.
VOTE: cakez
and sheeping
yeah, huh. I'll wait for a Porkens explanation before voting there
VOTE: Varsoon for a variety of pretty good reasons that have already been said, even though the skill of this playerlist makes me feel like this is too obvious. Not sure where else to turn rn, though, so.
@RC do you still want a nsg lynch?
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