Mini 2032: TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited [over]

[Shoshin]

Why townread RecK? To pocket him. And manipulate him. Reck is "notorious" (his word) for letting this happen.

And yes, I think he made the townread up. Scum fake reads sometimes, you know? Like, they'll call a townie they want to pocket town, without actually thinking up why that player is town beforehand.

[Shoshin]

Reck's plan? Or Varsoon's?

[Shoshin]

Reck's town.

[Shoshin]

Varsoon isn't.

[northsidegal]

Why townread RecK? To pocket him. And manipulate him. Reck is "notorious" (his word) for letting this happen.

And yes, I think he made the townread up. Scum fake reads sometimes, you know? Like, they'll call a townie they want to pocket town, without actually thinking up why that player is town beforehand.

am i misremembering, or did varsoon / reck say that they haven't played together before? unless you're suggesting that someone else who's partnered with varsoon told him about reck's history and came up with a plan for varsoon to do it, how would varsoon know about that history / why would varsoon choose reck in the first place?

it seems oddly specific to me in a way that would suggest something going on that we don't know about that isn't just someone making something up.

Reck's plan? Or Varsoon's?

reck's.

Reck's town.

why?

[Varsoon]

Oh man guess I should never voice a townread on Reck ever again in any game because it's

obviously

pocketing.
You really shouldn't take the gullible thing so seriously/personally, Shoshin.
I am surprised by how stubborn you are, though.
Would you like to actually interact with me at some point, though?

[Shoshin]

am i misremembering, or did varsoon / reck say that they haven't played together before? unless you're suggesting that someone else who's partnered with varsoon told him about reck's history and came up with a plan for varsoon to do it, how would varsoon know about that history / why would varsoon choose reck in the first place?

it seems oddly specific to me in a way that would suggest something going on that we don't know about that isn't just someone making something up.

Reck said he didn't know Varsoon, but that's irrelevant. Varsoon expressed familiarity with Reck, which is what matters for purposes of reading Varsoon.

Reck's a double voter. and notoriously manipulable. Who better to pocket as scum?

Why are you assuming that something else is going on? I don't see why you'd assume they're both town, that's weird. There's a lot of evidence against Varsoon, not just the fake townread, so maybe you should be reading that behavior in context?

[Shoshin]

Why'd you townread Reck?

[northsidegal]

Why are you assuming that something else is going on? I don't see why you'd assume they're both town, that's weird. There's a lot of evidence against Varsoon, not just the fake townread, so maybe you should be reading that behavior in context?

i'm not assuming they're both town. i was just telling you about my theory for why i think reck might be scum. "something else going on" doesn't imply that they're both town.

-shrug-

i don't think it's all that

unlikely

that varsoon is scum, i guess i'm just not all that convinced.

[Shoshin]

Varsoon, why would you be surprised at how "stubborn" I am when I literally said I was going to "death tunnel" anyone who pushed Creature's lynch? Like, stubbornness shouldn't be surprising at all after that.

[Shoshin]

NSG, you don't seem very convinced that Reck's scum, either. And that lynch clearly isn't happening. So who are the other scum? What're your reads?

[skitter30]

yeah, i hadn't got there, but i'm not all that surprised. why did you expect me to be? you've made it pretty clear in the past that you don't think you can read me.

idk, that i just unsurreptitiously decided to sheep him without you having much content yet; i don't do that sort of thing too often

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Why townread RecK? To pocket him. And manipulate him. Reck is "notorious" (his word) for letting this happen.

i mean varsoon would have to know that reck is 'notorious' for letting this happen in order to try to take advantage of it and they apparently haven't played that much with each other

==

Oh man guess I should never voice a townread on Reck ever again in any game because it's

obviously

pocketing.
You really shouldn't take the gullible thing so seriously/personally, Shoshin.
I am surprised by how stubborn you are, though.
Would you like to actually interact with me at some point, though?

she's very stubborn and doesn't really interact with people she thinks are scum; she'll just kinda ignore you/your questions

i don't really see varsoon trying to pocket reck really?

[Shoshin]

That's not true. I interact with people I think are scum all the time. What I sometimes do is ignore pointless questions, but that applies regardless of alignment .

[skitter30]

ok

ime you don't really respond to people who you scumread; or at least, you interact with them a lot less than you interact with people you townread.

and just because you think the question is pointless doesn't mean it is to the person asking /shrug

[Shoshin]

When haven't I responded to people I scumread? You're confusing me with someone else, becaue I actually make a point of responding to people I scumread and think it's really anti-town not to respond to reasonable questions from them.

[skitter30]

ok, maybe what i think is 'you don't respond to people who you scumread'

is actually 'you don't respond to questions that you think are pointless'

but if the latter is happening it looks like the former to me

in american presidents you treated me remarkably differently before and after you townread me; you would respond to my questions/posts once you townread me but didn't really interact with me at all before then

you don't townread me here as far as i can tell and haven't really been interacting with me much either besides for when you've been asking me what my reads are

i also want to emphasize that just because you don't think a question is reasonable ( what constitutes 'reasonable' exactly? i asked u why you townread rc + irrel + someone else - creature iirc - by like post 40 or something and you ignored that and i think that's a very reasonable question; it certainly wasn't pointless from my pov) doesn't meant that the person asking it also doesn't; to me those reads looked like you pulled them out of thin-air so i asked about them but you ignored it so i don't really get where you were coming from there

[Gammagooey]

so varsoon having a weird-ass read on reck seems well within what he could do as either alignment and I feel like half of the last like 8 pages has just been people spiraling off of that into deeper and deeper quoteholes with him and whoever he's arguing with scumreading each other. varsoon had a pretty good point deep in there about RC playing dishonestly given RC's posts saying that varsoon was townreading him when he never did and this 'reasonable dude vs horrible assholes' thing

I know what you're trying to do trying to portray yourself as the reasonable dude versus us being horrible assholes and not engaging with your play but you just obvscummed and are getting lynched for it.

I'm reading your posts, I just have nothing to say back to them because they're all scummy.

being a reach with koki+RC's comments on varsoon earlier that page, and I feel like RC plays enough games on-site to get that Varsoon has some really weird reads sometimes as town and that he definitely isn't just obvscum for it. and varsoon's tone at least feels fine and the few things that ping me in his iso so far are super minor for someone who just posted like 20+ times in a day, I don't want to wagon him at the moment.

Tbf given that RC's getting replaced by someone who likely doesn't enjoy stuffing their head up their own ass to enjoy the ambiance though the only wagons I'd be thrilled to see get going atm are Porkens and Creature I think - pretty much everyone else is here and doing shit and nothing anyone here is doing feels strongly more likely to be coming from scum than town yet.

@Shoshin - are you townreading reck for anything aside from you scumreading Varsoon? if so what exactly please.

[Gammagooey]

also, I'll be around tomorrow but I'll be

V/LA Saturday and Sunday

[Creature]

VOTE: northsidegal

[Creature]

Reck's town.

Wrong

[Creature]

RC isn't scum

wtf

[Creature]

Oh wait Reck has doublevote

But that's basically it

[Creature]

Porkens can go too

[Creature]

Porkens + nsg + ???

[Creature]

Not Shoshin
Not RC
Not Nos
Not Kokichi