Mini 2032: TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited [over]

[Shoshin]

I'm not 100% on Varsoon, but I think my points against him are all pretty strong - the degree of certainty that I'm town just doesn't square with the game or his situation, so I'm fairly sure it's a fake read, and scumreading Koki for stuff that he's self-consciously doing himself and self-aware of doing those things is just really scummy imo

[RadiantCowbells]

Am I gonna persuade you to reck/gamma or no

[Shoshin]

I could be persuaded.

Gamma did something earlier in the game that felt really town but a lot of his posts since feel contrived. What's your issue with him?

[RadiantCowbells]

I made a case. It's mostly gut but meh.

If you agree with my top 7 I'll sheep you anywhere in bottom 6.

[Shoshin]

What's your top 7?

[RadiantCowbells]

Rethought about

{RC, NSG}
{Shoshin, Creature, Nosferatu}
{Sircakez, Skitter}
{Varsoon}
-null line- {Reckoner}
{Kokichi Oma, Porkens}
{Gammagooey}
{Irrelephant}

[Shoshin]

Why Nos?

[RadiantCowbells]

Rearranging that bottom order to try to accommodate Irrelephant town

Can you actually read him though?

[Shoshin]

I can't believe NSG is more town than me. That's absurd.

[RadiantCowbells]

Idk that he sits on me as scum

If I see a flip in other people voting me suggesting it was actually the scum play to antagonize me I might reconsider

[RadiantCowbells]

I can't believe NSG is more town than me. That's absurd.

I can read NSG better than you

You said yourself I have never seen your scum game

[Shoshin]

Irrelephant? Yes, I can read him. At least I haven't been wrong yet. In two games. Not a large sample size.

But I've read his games as both town and scum and know the difference. I understand all your concerns, because he tends to go with the flow and to sheep a lot more as town in a way that seems opportunistic at times, but the reality is he's usually really lost as town and tends to not know what he's doing whereas he loves to be scum and usually plays much more confidently with a very clear scum agenda. If he were actively leading his own pushes and doing townie things to try make us think he was town, I'd probably have him as null and most everyone else would think he's town, and he'd probably be scum.

[Shoshin]

I can read NSG better than you

You said yourself I have never seen your scum game

I don't have a scum game. Like, there's nothing there.

[Kokichi Oma]

I just get the feeling of Porkens being lynchbait

[RadiantCowbells]

I think porkens can go either way but is a shit D1 lynch

[Shoshin]

Yeah, I don't like lynching Pork today.

Gamma's probably a fine lynch. What's your read there, Koki?

[Shoshin]

Oh yeah, I thought the way Gamma read into Nos was towny early on. It seemed like he was searching deep for the motivations behind what Nos was doing, but I'm not even sure if that's what he was actually doing. I might be the one reading into that. What do you think, RC?

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm null on him I guess. I kinda forgot he was in this game, which is bad. Checking his iso I realized he @ me twice though

[RadiantCowbells]

Is there a reason not Reck?

I think getting rid of him makes this game a lot easier regardless of alignment

You haven't seen what I have from him, town him with a double vote is a bigger threat to town wincon than I would be if I were scum, and he's openly not attempting to solve the game at all.

[Kokichi Oma]

Koki feels guttown to me too btw

Why?

[RadiantCowbells]

Gamma is a-okay with me though.

[Kokichi Oma]

@koki- why do you think NSG is likely scum here? Cause her reads and posts that she's made so far seem perfectly fine to me, the only real complaint I'd have about her is that she doesn't seem as aggressive about her reads as she was in the one town game I've seen her in but I think that makes sense given that game was a large and this is a mini that just started this week.

Why does the type of game matter? Was she not as aggressive during the start of that other game?

[RadiantCowbells]

Also 568 strongly strongly vibes scum talking about town

I believe I said that.

[Shoshin]

I'm not lynching someone just because you dislike them, but if you give me a reason to think Reck's scum, sure. I think double voter is town more often than scum, and the fact that he was checking the game as a hurricane approached when he didn't actually have to check it if he were scum makes me think he's town. Not a great reason, but slightly townier than null.

[Kokichi Oma]

Also that is why I think she might be scum. I don't see the energy she usually has as town. But, maybe there is a reason for that which I'll get into way later. Which is why I'm hesitant to vote here.