Micro 822: THE LAB 4 - Game Over

Micc · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:58 pm

Votecount 2.01

xyzzy (2) -

MariaR, Hydra lol

My Milked Eek (1) -

xyzzy

Not Voting (4) -

My Milked Eek, Skygazer, ceejayvinoya, Dunnstral

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2018-09-22 02:10:00).

Prodding ceejayvinoya and Dunnstral.

ceejayvinoya · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:27 am

Xyzzy is right tbh. Rather have a lynch there than nothing. I'd rather vote Eek.

VOTE: Eek

Dunnstral · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:42 am

In post 251, ceejayvinoya wrote:Xyzzy is right tbh. Rather have a lynch there than nothing. I'd rather vote Eek.

VOTE: Eek

Why not xyzzy?

ceejayvinoya · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:00 am

Why xyzzy?

Would you pick xyzzy over Eek?

My Milked Eek · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:09 am

I don't think xyzzy's hammer is scummy. It's null.

My reads haven't changed since yesterday. It's still Hydra and Maria. I explained why yesterday, the lynch and NK didn't do much to change that.
I'm actually very curious as to why Hydra is voting me, as far as I know, their vote is very reactionary.

My Milked Eek · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:10 am

VOTE: Hydra lol

MariaR · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:19 am

In post 245, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 240, MariaR wrote:VOTE: XYZ
kk
So uhh, are you not scumreading MME? And why do you scumread Xyzzy lol?

I'm sheeping you tbh.
Idk why they killed emp ngl I was gonna vote them cause I hated there iso.
Sky is town btw

My Milked Eek · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:35 am

So, you're sheeping Hydra by not voting for whom they were voting? (i.e. me). I'm happy with less votes on me obviously, but you're lying here.

MariaR · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:37 am

Want me to come up with another excuse or you gonna drop it?

My Milked Eek · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:39 am

Hydra lol · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:01 am

In post 254, My Milked Eek wrote:I don't think xyzzy's hammer is scummy. It's null.

My reads haven't changed since yesterday. It's still Hydra and Maria. I explained why yesterday, the lynch and NK didn't do much to change that.
I'm actually very curious as to why Hydra is voting me, as far as I know, their vote is very reactionary.

Uh... you can read the ~11 pages worth of posts to see my opinion on you come to this point right now lol.

Dunnstral · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:07 am

In post 253, ceejayvinoya wrote:Why xyzzy?

Would you pick xyzzy over Eek?

Answering a question with a question huh

I don't really have a read on xyzzy, leaning not scum on Eek right now, I'd have etolook at xyzzy again

Skygazer · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:41 pm

ill reread tomorrow

wanted to vote MME but changed my mind so now i actually have to read people and stuff

My Milked Eek · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:48 pm

Spoiler: Every post of Hydra that references me, spoiler alert, only reason given for not scumreading me is my poor initial explanation of my Maria vote

In post 45, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 42, My Milked Eek wrote:
In post 40, Emperors New Groove wrote:I like the bee.
Well, I don't.

VOTE: Hydra lol

Posting style aside, it's mainly for #25 and #26.
you obviously havent played with mylo

In post 52, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 42, My Milked Eek wrote:
In post 40, Emperors New Groove wrote:I like the bee.
Well, I don't.

VOTE: Hydra lol

Posting style aside, it's mainly for #25 and #26.
Be wary, I shall continue to make posts like that throughout the entire game!

In post 58, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 57, My Milked Eek wrote:
In post 45, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 42, My Milked Eek wrote:
In post 40, Emperors New Groove wrote:I like the bee.
Well, I don't.

VOTE: Hydra lol

Posting style aside, it's mainly for #25 and #26.
you obviously havent played with mylo
Maybe...? It's been too long.
Don't worry if you haven't, hopefully you can catch along soon enough!

Anyway, do you have any other scum reads?

In post 59, Hydra lol wrote:I don't really have a townread on anyone yet lol, which is kinda sad because 3/4 of you are town

I guess I think {Emperor, MariaR} are not worth going for just yet? But like geez, Imma have to push you guys to town tell lol.

In post 74, Hydra lol wrote:Okay, so I think that MariaR really is not worth going for right now. Can't really explain it now but like it's not a good wagon.

Emperor's new Groove is probably town, so not considering them right now.

Dunn is also probably town, but a bit less so than Emperor.

Ceejay and Sky need to post more lol. I think I finally understand everyone's frustration with my lurking. Like, they're both perfect nulls right now lol.

Aronis also needs to post more, but I guess I kiinda townlean them for now? There's bigger fish to fry than them.

That leaves Xyzzy and My Milked Eek, who I'm going to lol!call them my current best guess for scum team lol. Just because neither have really given me a reason to townread them, and I have some decent reasons to consider them scummy.

My Milked Eek voted for me because he thought I was suspicious, which is I guess fair if you don't know my town VS. scum meta? But their MariaR vote does not sit well now that I don't think MariaR is scum. And I'm not sure if this was accidental or not, but saying "I can't find an angle why Maria posted..." doesn't really make sense because you're not saying it's a scum/town difference, you just don't understand it all lol. In which case, I'm not sure why that is a scum read?

Xyzzy I'm a bit softer on, especially after calling Maria likely town, but I just feel like their posts are not as natural as I'd expect from town!Xyzzy. So I'm pretty wary of them overall.

Sorry Vizzy but VOTE: My Milked Eek

In post 101, Hydra lol wrote:These votes are a bit meh:

Dunnstral (3): Emperors New Groove, xyzzy, MariaR
Hydra lol (1): Dunnstral
ceejayvinoya (1): Skygazer
MariaR (1): My Milked Eek
My Milked Eek (1): Hydra lol
xyzzy (1): ceejayvinoya

Dunn I have a town lean on, I guess not quite as strongly as Emperor or Maria but it's still there. I'm obviously town and hopefully Dunn will switch to a possible scum soon lol. Ceejay and Sky's votes are RVS, and Milked Eek is also voting someone I think is town.

Lol, this is not very good. Would anyone be up for flash wagoning an inactive person lol? I'd also obviously be okay with a MME or xyzzy wagon.

In post 108, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 106, Aronis wrote:
In post 102, My Milked Eek wrote:Ugh, this is why I dislike playing with Hydras. One head votes with me, the other for me.

I understand your issue with the phrasing there. It's hard for me to find the exact English words to describe why I don't like that sequence of posts. It also didn't help I had to re-type it in a hurry because of a browser hiccup.

My vote mainly revolves around #49 and #50. First of, for the same reason why I disliked your (Hydra lol) posts. It's trying too hard. Post #49 and #50 feel manipulative, feels like she's trying to steer us in one way to think about that "slip". The same can be said about your posts earlier on, it felt like you were trying too hard to let us know that you didn't read your role PM/list/etc. And here Maria is trying to play a certain angle too hard. The second issue I'm having is that that sequence, in contrast to yours, also feels like rolefishing. There could be a different angle here, but I'm not seeing how a town would play like that.

Also, I'd rather for us to get on Maria's wagon and see where it goes instead of going for inactives. I'd rather have them replace out than have us waste a day or two voting for them and then unvoting because there's a new player in that slot.
@Mod?
yes hydras are the worst lets kill them all
i feel insulted
In post 107, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 93, MariaR wrote:
In post 85, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Hydra lol

This is that forgotten hourglass meta where when he sits down and posts a wall he's scum and when he prop dodges all game he's town

Also I feel their stance on me is weird, I'm town for posting but I haven't said much in my opinion
VOTE: Dunnstral
Bah bye
This is bad
vote maria for happy fun times

In post 109, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 55, MariaR wrote:I don't think I would do that entrance as scum but go for it.
this is also a bad post too
self-meta but the real tipper is the cushioning "go for it" showing us that she doesnt really believe in this statement

In post 146, Hydra lol wrote:So, basically my two biggest scumreads and a null-town voted me alongside with Dunn lol. Why is this not surprising lol.

Aronis isn't an awful wagon, I'd obviously prefer my scum reads but I guess they're okay to wagon? If Invis is up for it I guess that's all okay?

In post 153, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 143, My Milked Eek wrote:I'm also not seeing the Aronis wagon. What I am seeing is that Hydra stopped posting here until Aronis' wagon got big enough and then they piled on.
I also don't like Maria being on the Aronis wagon as well.
And I like it even less that Hydra at one time voted Maria, then unvoted, but was still suspicious of her aside from meta and something they don't want to share.

UNVOTE: Maria
VOTE: Hydra lol

This is L-1 by my count.
These are all half-reasonable points lol. I mean technically I did stop posting but that was because I forgot to check this game lol. I guess you can not like Maria's vote after showing suspicion on them, and honestly I do wish they, you know, explained their vote?

Actually yeah, @Maria can you actually explain your reasoning for voting Aronis lol? Just rereading now that is kinda a weird vote lol.

Anyway back to your post, it should be mentioned that Invis was the one who was on the Maria wagon, while I was defending them.

Wait sorry sorry got to eat dinner brb

In post 163, Hydra lol wrote:Okay I have to sleep now, and unfortunately I may not be around before deadline ends. So just in case this slot is NK-ed, here's Mylo's final reads!

Emperors New Groove
MariaR
{Dunnstral, Skygazer}
{ceejayvinoya, Aronis}
xyzzy
My Milked Eek

Dunn fell a little bit for not responding to why I found his reasoning bad, and Sky rose a bit honestly for just posting as I'd expect town!Sky to post.

But anyway, hopefully I can be here tomorrow morning but if not I put this slot in full control of Vizzy for the rest of this day phase!

In post 192, Hydra lol wrote:Okay so as we go into the night phase my reads are pretty much as similar as last time:

Emperor
MariaR
{Dunn, Sky}
{Aronis, Ceejay}
Xyzzy
My Milked EEEEEEEK

I talked briefly to Invis about his reads and he said he thinks Sky probably isn't scum here, and that Ceejay hasn't posted anything AI (Which I agree with both lol). But anyway yeah, time for Twilight!

In post 217, Hydra lol wrote:My reads have changed virtually none, Xyzzy's hammer is weird in a few ways but it isn't towny. MME is still my primary scumread, and aside from those and ceejay I really don't want a wagon on anyone else.

In post 219, Hydra lol wrote:VOTE: MyMilkedEek I'm comfortable with this for now, but if Ceejay doesn't show soon enough I'd probably rather pressure that slot. We really can't keep being so quiet, It's not a healthy game-state for town lol.

In post 228, Hydra lol wrote:My reads are probably along the lines of

{MariaR}
{Dunnstral}
{Sky, Ceejay}

{Xyzzy}
{My Milked Eek}

The bottom two are the best lynches, I'm not lynching in the top two and a Sky or Ceejay lynch is probably pointless and not likely to flip scum anyway.

In post 244, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 241, Hydra lol wrote:i wanna switch to xyzzy mylo can i switch to xyzzy
Sure!

VOTE: Xyzzy

In post 245, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 240, MariaR wrote:VOTE: XYZ
kk
So uhh, are you not scumreading MME? And why do you scumread Xyzzy lol?

In post 248, Hydra lol wrote:Anyway lol, basically I think the lynch should be between {MME, Xyzzy} As I believe there's a ~80% chance of at least one scum there lol.

In post 260, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 254, My Milked Eek wrote:I don't think xyzzy's hammer is scummy. It's null.

My reads haven't changed since yesterday. It's still Hydra and Maria. I explained why yesterday, the lynch and NK didn't do much to change that.
I'm actually very curious as to why Hydra is voting me, as far as I know, their vote is very reactionary.
Uh... you can read the ~11 pages worth of posts to see my opinion on you come to this point right now lol.

My Milked Eek · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:49 pm

Damn it.

EBWOP:

"...only reason for scumreading me..."

My Milked Eek · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:50 pm

So, there's no reason aside from a poorly explained reason to my vote on Maria, which I explained better later and even got Hydra to agree with eventually.

Hydra lol · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:10 pm

Oh, looking at my ISO I realise I probably have not been explaining my scum read on you enough/at all lol. Let me do that:

Your weird tunnel on this slot is really weird and I don't understand why you aren't commenting on pretty much anything but this slot? Especially given the fact this slot has provided the most discussion and tried to get others to talk the most. Not to mention the fact that everyone who actually know Vizzy and I's meta is townreading us, and the person who was the most strong about it was ALREADY my biggest scumread lol. And I really don't like any of 155-160's posts, it makes far too many false assumptions and seems to just want to make this slot look worse lol.

Hydra lol · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:16 pm

In post 256, MariaR wrote:
In post 245, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 240, MariaR wrote:VOTE: XYZ
kk
So uhh, are you not scumreading MME? And why do you scumread Xyzzy lol?
I'm sheeping you tbh.
Idk why they killed emp ngl I was gonna vote them cause I hated there iso.
Sky is town btw

:O After all my months of sheeping stronger players, a stronger player sheeps me!

Thanks!

But yeah, while I did strongly townread emp I don't understand why they'd be Nk'd lol. If I can be a bit egotistical, I honestly thought this slot was going to be Nk'd lol, but I guess they went for a relatively quiet slot over us.

Hydra lol · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:20 pm

This Dunn/Ceejay interactions are interesting to look at. I feel like I'm missing something between them though lol.

Hydra lol · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:22 pm

In post 246, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 243, Skygazer wrote:tbh xyzzy here is reminding me of pine's 214 where they were widely scumread as town for similar play
Can I have a link to this

Btw Sky can I still please have a link to this lol.

My Milked Eek · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:31 am

In post 266, Hydra lol wrote:Oh, looking at my ISO I realise I probably have not been explaining my scum read on you enough/at all lol. Let me do that:

Your weird tunnel on this slot is really weird

Uhuh.

In post 266, Hydra lol wrote:and I don't understand why you aren't commenting on pretty much anything but this slot?

You're ignoring my posts on Maria? You even agreed to it at one point... Are you even trying to not misrepresent?

In post 266, Hydra lol wrote:Especially given the fact this slot has provided the most discussion and tried to get others to talk the most.

I don't see how this would be a valid defense. By your logic I should also be town in your opinion because I believe I'm the second most active poster in this game.

In post 266, Hydra lol wrote:Not to mention the fact that everyone who actually know Vizzy and I's meta is townreading us, and the person who was the most strong about it was ALREADY my biggest scumread lol.

I don't care for meta defenses. Especially not by players who are aware of their meta.

In post 266, Hydra lol wrote:And I really don't like any of 155-160's posts, it makes far too many false assumptions and seems to just want to make this slot look worse lol.

What false assumptions? lol. Let me quote them so the others don't need to go browsing to see these false assumptions:

Spoiler: warning, false assumptions

In post 155, My Milked Eek wrote:
In post 145, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 143, My Milked Eek wrote:I'm also not seeing the Aronis wagon. What I am seeing is that Hydra stopped posting here until Aronis' wagon got big enough and then they piled on.
I also don't like Maria being on the Aronis wagon as well.
And I like it even less that Hydra at one time voted Maria, then unvoted, but was still suspicious of her aside from meta and something they don't want to share.

UNVOTE: Maria
VOTE: Hydra lol

This is L-1 by my count.
Woah Woah Woah why are we L-1 lol??
Because we have one RL day left and although I'd rather see Maria go, you're still a good second choice.

I falsely assumed we had one RL day left?

In post 156, My Milked Eek wrote:
In post 146, Hydra lol wrote:Aronis isn't an awful wagon, I'd obviously prefer my scum reads but I guess they're okay to wagon? If Invis is up for it I guess that's all okay?
Why? Why is Aronis a good wagon?

The false assumption must be in here somewhere...

In post 157, My Milked Eek wrote:
In post 153, Hydra lol wrote:These are all half-reasonable points lol. I mean technically I did stop posting but that was because I forgot to check this game lol. I guess you can not like Maria's vote after showing suspicion on them, and honestly I do wish they, you know, explained their vote?

Actually yeah, @Maria can you actually explain your reasoning for voting Aronis lol? Just rereading now that is kinda a weird vote lol.

Anyway back to your post, it should be mentioned that Invis was the one who was on the Maria wagon, while I was defending them.

Wait sorry sorry got to eat dinner brb
This does nothing to help me feel better about hydrae.

Almost found it! Stop telling people how you feel about Hydrae that can't agree, Eek. Get to the false assumption already!

In post 158, My Milked Eek wrote:
In post 156, My Milked Eek wrote:
In post 146, Hydra lol wrote:Aronis isn't an awful wagon, I'd obviously prefer my scum reads but I guess they're okay to wagon? If Invis is up for it I guess that's all okay?
Why? Why is Aronis a good wagon?
Correction:

Why is Aronis not an awful wagon?

Hmmm. Maybe in the next quote?

In post 159, My Milked Eek wrote:And don't give me that Hydra spiel. You're both on the same account, if there's a vote you both sign off on it. I assume you talked it over before voting, or even after.

I assumed here. I agree. So you don't talk to each other except through the game thread. We already established that earlier in the thread. This is the false assumption! I shouldn't assume that Hydra should be accountable for their voting pattern. Blaming it on the other head is a valid defense. Noted.

In post 160, My Milked Eek wrote:Also, how could you forget this game if you have 64 posts out of 160?

No false assumption here. At the time you had 64 posts and you claimed to have forgotten about this game.

So, try again. Or perhaps I can explain what's going on in my next post.

Micc · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:51 am

Prodding xyzzy.

xyzzy · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:02 pm

MME's characterization of hydra lol sounds... pretty fake imo. like quoting tons of posts where someone says meaningful things about you and summarizing it as "this person had nothing meaningful to say about me" is just a weird thing to say. and like I don't disagree with everything MME says but the conclusions drawn don't seem reasonable to me.

Hydra lol · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:51 pm

Hiyo, I'm back once more!

Hydra lol · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:54 pm

It's kinda sad people seem to be only coming in after they're being prodded

Anyway, I guess I have to respond to the big response to my reasoning now lol.