how good is vonflare at laser tag [game over]

[Invisibility]

@dunn
@invis
@penguin

join us on Gamma

no

[Irrelephant11]

why not

[Invisibility]

im townreading gamma

[Invisibility]

ooh i should do a readslist to make sure things add up

[Irrelephant11]

do you still want alch? I'd still do alch but I have a hard time seeing the wagon re-form at this rate
I townread dunnstral/invis/penguin/majiffy enough to risk kingmaking any of you

[Irrelephant11]

but please do explain why gamma is town I don't see it

[Gamma Emerald]

- Because the paranoia was fake and went away the moment RC said he stopped scumreading Maria
- It's not like scum can remove their D1 associations. Caught scum will remain caught in D2 when I look back and reread
- Honestly I haven't townread like anything you've said and I feel like you're backing it up with this self-righteous tone as if it's insane I'm scumreading you - for which I'm scumreading you

-Or I liked Maria’s explanation? That’s a misinterpretation at best and twisting the shit out of the background events at worst, in fact I think it’s a complete lie now that I remember something
-Well the caught scum can tie themselves together an bam town has no leads. It’s similar to why scum would kill themselves in Red Flag.
-I can accept a scumread, I won’t lie down about misinterpretations if my play however. If you think my play is scummy once I’ve corrected you I’d probably let it go.

[Gamma Emerald]

@dunn
@invis
@penguin

join us on Gamma

Interesting how he solicits three votes, the exact minimum number of town needed to get a mislynch

[Gamma Emerald]

Where does it actually SAY the setup?

Nvm

I see you're as bad at reading Mod OP's, Mod Posts concerning a game you are in, and Sample Role PMs as you are about reading the signatures of people you anti-nom titles for based off of never having ever interacted with them ever.

Way to bring that in here dickcheese
VOTE: Maruchan

Hey Irrel, you call this never voting Maruchan?
VOTE: Irelephant11
I’m pretty sure he’s deliberately lying about my content at this point

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh my fucking god is Irrel scumreading me for calling myself the dedicated mislynch
I’ve done that same thing as town before
And guess what Einstein? Scum have pushed me for it before. Nice job on making it easy to catch you.

[chamber]

@chamber then why are you not voting majiffy

It's possible to think someone isn't confirmed town, and also not think they are the best lynch choice. In fact that currently describes everyone that isn't myself and isn't chickadee. What the hell was this question?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also how have I been uncooperative and how the fuck does Irrel think he’s obvtown, and if he thinks he’s obvtown why’s he scumreading me for thinking I might be evidently town?

[vonflare]

I’m pretty sure he’s deliberately lying about my content at this point

I seriously doubt he'd deliberately lie about something so insignificant

[Irrelephant11]

lol

If I were scum picking three townies to get on a mislynch why would I choose those three?
I had a feeling Invi might say no
Penguin has only expressed doubt about me me
Dunnstral is way too strong a player to sheep me thoughtlessly
Come to think of it why would I only appeal to three players? Does this idea also assume the wagon I'm going for will be three townies and myself and my four scum buddies all on the mislynch wagon? This makes no sense as a scum play

The simple answer is I'm appealing to my three strongest townreads to vote my strongest scumread.

Re: the post above
-It's my current interpretation and nothing you've said or shown me has given me reason to doubt it
-I don't know what you're saying here, it doesn't seem like it has to do with the point I made about associations? I think I really just don't understand you here.
-I'm not sure what you're saying here, either... That you'd accept a scumread if it were "better" somehow?

pedit: chamber gimme a sec

[Irrelephant11]

majiffy's clearly town based on wagon movement

no.

@Mod when you posted the vc I think I should have been on chamber
@chamber then why are you not voting majiffy

@chamber then why are you not voting majiffy

It's possible to think someone isn't confirmed town, and also not think they are the best lynch choice. In fact that currently describes everyone that isn't myself and isn't chickadee. What the hell was this question?

I read this first post here as "No, majiffy is not town" --> a confident scumread
Not voting majiffy (a viable wagon) from there didn't make sense to me
I get it now

[Gamma Emerald]

You're right that if I ml someone I just move on with my day whoops. (good pizza btw)
Gamma you're town cause I say so friend. I won't out me meta on you. If you wanna sr me for tring you by all means go for it

I’m not asking for meta I’m asking what in this game makes you TR me

You're overly sensitive

Also could you E-send me some pizza cos I have sandwiches practically every day and it can get boring
PEdit: ok

This is when I changed my mind about Maria trying to pocket me

[Irrelephant11]

Oh my fucking god is Irrel scumreading me for calling myself the dedicated mislynch
I’ve done that same thing as town before
And guess what Einstein? Scum have pushed me for it before. Nice job on making it easy to catch you.

Please link me to it

Also how have I been uncooperative and how the fuck does Irrel think he’s obvtown, and if he thinks he’s obvtown why’s he scumreading me for thinking I might be evidently town?

obvtown =/= conftown

I think I'm pretty obviously town based on how hard it would be for me to feel as comfortable as I do if I were scum :shrug:
I don't think you're anywhere near conf!town, and you claiming that you are because you didn't know the setup info reads scummy and fake

[Gamma Emerald]

lol

If I were scum picking three townies to get on a mislynch why would I choose those three?
I had a feeling Invi might say no
Penguin has only expressed doubt about me me
Dunnstral is way too strong a player to sheep me thoughtlessly
Come to think of it why would I only appeal to three players? Does this idea also assume the wagon I'm going for will be three townies and myself and my four scum buddies all on the mislynch wagon? This makes no sense as a scum play

The simple answer is I'm appealing to my three strongest townreads to vote my strongest scumread.

Re: the post above
-It's my current interpretation and nothing you've said or shown me has given me reason to doubt it
-I don't know what you're saying here, it doesn't seem like it has to do with the point I made about associations? I think I really just don't understand you here.
-I'm not sure what you're saying here, either... That you'd accept a scumread if it were "better" somehow?

pedit: chamber gimme a sec

Fair on the appeal, that was just meant to get a rise out of you as I wasn’t sure about it myself given that would necessitate all scum being on my wagon.
As for the next part:
-Read my last post
-Let’s say we catch two scum D1 but end up mislynching. Those two can be paired up, we lynch them, and them we lose a lot of direction going forward.
-Yes, specifically if it doesn’t strike me as based on wrong ideas.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh my fucking god is Irrel scumreading me for calling myself the dedicated mislynch
I’ve done that same thing as town before
And guess what Einstein? Scum have pushed me for it before. Nice job on making it easy to catch you.

Please link me to it

Also how have I been uncooperative and how the fuck does Irrel think he’s obvtown, and if he thinks he’s obvtown why’s he scumreading me for thinking I might be evidently town?

obvtown =/= conftown

I think I'm pretty obviously town based on how hard it would be for me to feel as comfortable as I do if I were scum :shrug:
I don't think you're anywhere near conf!town, and you claiming that you are because you didn't know the setup info reads scummy and fake

Ok fair on the conftown thing, thought it was an assessment of my tone, not you referring back to my assertion that his lack of setup knowledge Is be conftown
Will link the game in a little bit

[Irrelephant11]

You're right that if I ml someone I just move on with my day whoops. (good pizza btw)
Gamma you're town cause I say so friend. I won't out me meta on you. If you wanna sr me for tring you by all means go for it

I’m not asking for meta I’m asking what in this game makes you TR me

You're overly sensitive

Also could you E-send me some pizza cos I have sandwiches practically every day and it can get boring
PEdit: ok

This is when I changed my mind about Maria trying to pocket me

mm okay I missed this context here when iso-ing you
I still think both you and Maria are townreading each other too easily on the whole
But this point is now more associative for Maria than singularly scumtelling for you so I'll drop it for now

[Gamma Emerald]

In that case (thinking we townread each other too easily) we have an established trend where we can easily read each other
I can link two somewhat recent games, one where she read me as scum correctly, one where I read her as town correctly.

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=68337
In this game I self-ID’d as lynchbait and a scum hopped on for that reason

[vonflare]

self meta is bad

if you can recognize that you do x thing as town you can intentionally do it as scum and then do this^

[Invisibility]

thats very true btw

[Gamma Emerald]

self meta is bad

if you can recognize that you do x thing as town you can intentionally do it as scum and then do this^

Yes
But the thing I’m detailing is limited to one game. I called myself lynchbait in the context of THAT GAME.