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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:20 pm

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In post 872, skitter30 wrote:gamma g, still has that like hollow feel to it.

i don't really understand why you're scumreading porkens; he had like one post that i scumread but the rest of it is kinda wtf-y but i see no scum agenda or motivation for it; like i'm not sure why being completely out of the game is more likely to come from scum than town. the i glanced at his iso in hte transformers game and he at least had some cursory scumreads and was following along (he was scum there)

also he was the biggest wagon with five votes a few hundred posts back so i'm not sure where you're getting the 'people are fine calling him scum but not voting him' bit from; he really feels like lynchbait to me tbh
I think the scum motivation is just him not wanting to justify his RC read he mentioned earlier b/c it was completely made up and feeling like he'll get a lot more heavily scumread if he actually tries to play the game and give people reads when most of the game is giving him a pass for not doing shit now.

page 7-8 is what I'm talking about in particular for people calling him scum but not voting him. It was early game when votes were scattered pretty much everywhere and I don't think people had particularly solid reads (generally most people seemed to be on either NSG or skitter or on 1/2 vote wagons at the time), and 4 people mentioned him as a gut scumread (RC, Shoshin, you, and Irrelephant). I did misread Irrelephant's post about him the first time I went through it (saying that Porkens was gut scummy but he liked his post asking why I wasn't lynched yet for him to be a weak townread, instead of what I thought was him saying Porkens was gut scum and I was his weakest townread) RC's posts in particular feel bad mentioning that Porkens felt scummy twice but then not doing anything about it, but I don't really get why either you or him didn't bother voting Porkens when the three people thinking he was scummy (and me a few pages later if I remember correctly) could have made it into an actually threatening wagon that might have forced Porkens to do something if he's scum.
In post 872, skitter30 wrote:In post 826, Gammagooey wrote:
if RC flips town I think he's borderline locktown.


this is pinging me and i'm putting this here so i remember to look at this later after we get some flips (partners?)

also i'm a little confused because you say varsoon is prob only scum with rc but you don't want to read the game that way since it's day1 but you say sircakez is 'Cakez is my next biggest scumread after Porkens, but it's mostly gut and how he's played around Porkens' which looks to me at least partially like an svs associative based read too? can you elaborate on cakez please? and you're also calling kokichi town for interactions with porkens?
Varsoon I don't want to push today when I think he's likely ONLY scum if RC is also scum. It's something I think is worth considering later but lynching Varsoon solely because of my read on RC when I think Varsoon is very very likely town in the situation that RC isn't scum is awful, and in general I think basing a day's lynch off of reads on other unflipped players is really stupid given how often reads are wrong in general, ESPECIALLY day 1.

Cakez for me is more of a scum read based on his posts just feeling bad to me with the little side bonus that I think his vote progression has been weird and involved jumping on and off of Porkens despite what seemed like scumreading him fairly strongly for a bit from his iso. I think the closest I can get to describing how his play's felt to me is that most of his read reasoning's felt kinda fluffy and really surface-level so far, and that his progression from Porkens to me being 'Porkens needs death' to agreeing with RC's case on me to saying I haven't done anything to change his mind when I had posted twice that I wouldn't be around for the weekend feels more like an excuse to get off of Porkens than him really coming to the conclusion that I'm the best vote atm.
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:49 pm

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hi sorry been kind of busy

from what little i've seen of the votecount i'm not sure why the irrel wagon died / is only me
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:53 pm

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nsg probably still town
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:53 pm

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In post 870, xyzzy wrote:4 players voting for Gamma Emerald (xRECKONERx, xRECKONERx, Varsoon, Porkens)
3 players voting for Varsoon (Shoshin, Kokichi Oma, Nosferatu)
3 players voting for Gammagooey (skitter30, SirCakez, Irrelephant11)
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1 player voting for xRECKONERx (Gamma Emerald)
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:39 pm

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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:08 pm

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In post 900, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 872, skitter30 wrote:gamma g, still has that like hollow feel to it.

i don't really understand why you're scumreading porkens; he had like one post that i scumread but the rest of it is kinda wtf-y but i see no scum agenda or motivation for it; like i'm not sure why being completely out of the game is more likely to come from scum than town. the i glanced at his iso in hte transformers game and he at least had some cursory scumreads and was following along (he was scum there)

also he was the biggest wagon with five votes a few hundred posts back so i'm not sure where you're getting the 'people are fine calling him scum but not voting him' bit from; he really feels like lynchbait to me tbh
I think the scum motivation is just him not wanting to justify his RC read he mentioned earlier b/c it was completely made up and feeling like he'll get a lot more heavily scumread if he actually tries to play the game and give people reads when most of the game is giving him a pass for not doing shit now.

page 7-8 is what I'm talking about in particular for people calling him scum but not voting him. It was early game when votes were scattered pretty much everywhere and I don't think people had particularly solid reads (generally most people seemed to be on either NSG or skitter or on 1/2 vote wagons at the time), and 4 people mentioned him as a gut scumread (RC, Shoshin, you, and Irrelephant). I did misread Irrelephant's post about him the first time I went through it (saying that Porkens was gut scummy but he liked his post asking why I wasn't lynched yet for him to be a weak townread, instead of what I thought was him saying Porkens was gut scum and I was his weakest townread) RC's posts in particular feel bad mentioning that Porkens felt scummy twice but then not doing anything about it, but I don't really get why either you or him didn't bother voting Porkens when the three people thinking he was scummy (and me a few pages later if I remember correctly) could have made it into an actually threatening wagon that might have forced Porkens to do something if he's scum.
In post 872, skitter30 wrote:In post 826, Gammagooey wrote:
if RC flips town I think he's borderline locktown.


this is pinging me and i'm putting this here so i remember to look at this later after we get some flips (partners?)

also i'm a little confused because you say varsoon is prob only scum with rc but you don't want to read the game that way since it's day1 but you say sircakez is 'Cakez is my next biggest scumread after Porkens, but it's mostly gut and how he's played around Porkens' which looks to me at least partially like an svs associative based read too? can you elaborate on cakez please? and you're also calling kokichi town for interactions with porkens?
Varsoon I don't want to push today when I think he's likely ONLY scum if RC is also scum. It's something I think is worth considering later but lynching Varsoon solely because of my read on RC when I think Varsoon is very very likely town in the situation that RC isn't scum is awful, and in general I think basing a day's lynch off of reads on other unflipped players is really stupid given how often reads are wrong in general, ESPECIALLY day 1.

Cakez for me is more of a scum read based on his posts just feeling bad to me with the little side bonus that I think his vote progression has been weird and involved jumping on and off of Porkens despite what seemed like scumreading him fairly strongly for a bit from his iso. I think the closest I can get to describing how his play's felt to me is that most of his read reasoning's felt kinda fluffy and really surface-level so far, and that his progression from Porkens to me being 'Porkens needs death' to agreeing with RC's case on me to saying I haven't done anything to change his mind when I had posted twice that I wouldn't be around for the weekend feels more like an excuse to get off of Porkens than him really coming to the conclusion that I'm the best vote atm.
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:42 am

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VOTE: Gammagooey
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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:42 am

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I think I got an idea rn.
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:44 am

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Cam na Emerald is a big contos for me.

Yeah, he feels more likely to flip scum with the PoE we have, but we're looking for someone individually scummy.
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:45 am

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Oh Nice forgot tô diz autocorrect.

It's Gamma is a cointoss.
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:45 am

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The Emerald one
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:46 am

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Varsoon is gonna be sortable somewhat soon I think.
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:47 am

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Gooey's play today looks more oriented into pocketing.
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:14 am

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In post 95, skitter30 wrote:
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i have regular v/la on fridays and saturdays

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In post 6, xyzzy wrote:searching for a brassherald replacement.
pretty sure brass siteflaked like two weeks ago so i don't think is ai

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In post 22, Shoshin wrote:Radiant, Irrelephant, and Creature are town.
ok, why?

i haven't really seen anything ai from either of them at this stage

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In post 33, Kokichi Oma wrote:In terms of the gacha vote, we should always have a tie of the top 2 or 3 townreads so scum dont know which is getting the item
@xyzzy
what happens if there's a tie for the gacha vote at the end of the day?

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In post 52, northsidegal wrote:VOTE: xreckoner

i'm leaning towards nos as town so far.
rvs vote on reck, or are you scumreading him in some way?

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In post 65, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Skitter

Hi do something please
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i was v/la

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In post 80, Irrelephant11 wrote:he has two posts so far:
-ignoring RVS
-voting RC

He's here, but hasn't done anything towny. Seems like more than half the playerlist is eager to spew their town alignment, and he is not, and so I'm voting him. Also another thing that may or may not be a thing later
i don't understand

are you voting him for lack of content (in which case why aren't you, say, voting me?)

or is that you find these two posts scummy? (in which case, why is ignoring rvs and voting rc scummy things at this stage?)

like i can point to other people who have posted who haven't done anything towny (say, varsoon) so i don't get why you're voting reck in particular

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maybe town nsg? not super confident in that, idk
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:27 am

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votecount 1.194 players voting for Gammagooey (skitter30, SirCakez, Irrelephant11, Creature)
3 players voting for Gamma Emerald (xRECKONERx, xRECKONERx, Porkens)
3 players voting for Varsoon (Shoshin, Kokichi Oma, Nosferatu)
1 player voting for Porkens (Gammagooey)
1 player voting for Irrelephant11 (northsidegal)
1 player voting for xRECKONERx (Gamma Emerald)
1 player voting for Creature (Varsoon)

0 players not voting for lynch

with 14 votes, it takes 8 to lynch.

4 players voting for Shoshin for Fantasy Gachapon (Irrelephant11, Gammagooey, skitter30, Gamma Emerald)
2 players voting for xRECKONERx for Fantasy Gachapon (Varsoon, xRECKONERx)
1 player voting for Kokichi Oma for Fantasy Gachapon (Kokichi Oma)
1 player voting for Gamma Emerald for Fantasy Gachapon (Shoshin)

5 players not voting for Fantasy Gachapon (northsidegal, Porkens, Nosferatu, Creature, SirCakez)

the current day will end in (expired on 2018-09-24 17:00:00).

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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:48 am

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by the way y'all check this out

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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:51 am

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How’d you get those welts?
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:53 am

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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:11 am

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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:22 am

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Let's flip Gammagoo
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:59 am

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VOTE: gamma
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:59 am

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In post 920, Nosferatu wrote:VOTE: gamma
o theres two
UNVOTE:
VOTE: gammagoo
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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:13 am

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In post 97, Varsoon wrote:
In post 90, Porkens wrote:
In post 81, Varsoon wrote:Those good good boys got into Trolls 2.
Speaking of Trolls
Hey, Porkens, are you town?
as if you don't know
I really don't!
You throwing shade instead of being upfront, well, I dunno how to take that.
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:24 am

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Would flip Varsoon as info lynch at this point too
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:31 am

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Then vote him
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