Mini 2032: TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited [over]

[Creature]

Also yeah, Emerald replaced RC so he's probably town.

[Creature]

How is Emerald solidifying a townread at all with that sparse posting and line towning?

I'm not crazy about the wagon makeup on GammaGoo. Obviously, given I'm voting Irrel.

Hehe I find Irrel towny.

[Creature]

Also we won't pressure anyone being scattered all around.

[Irrelephant11]

Would flip Varsoon as info lynch at this point too

Wtf No, never do an info lynch, this is terrible. Man, Irrel, you're making me doubt you're town, ugh.

Sorry? multiple people are scumreading me for what I'd guess is just a game theory thing? I've recently seen info lynches promoted elsewhere on site, but I guess it's not a part of site meta overall.

huh gamma emerald is actually being scummier than i thought rc was

What about GE is scummy? I was lightly townreading his play

Gamma Emerald is solidifying my town read on the slot.

Yeah agree (though I was more null on RC, I did also think RC's reads made sense)

@skitter I do sheep shoshin a lot D1. I've never correctly identified & pushed scum on my own D1 (unlike shoshin), and have only hit scum by sheeping town who's better than me at playing this phase. I'm trying to learn the weak points in my play, and that's one. Imo sheeping is pro-town if you can find a towny slot, and if you're also hard townreading shoshin I don't know what you're concerned about... Like town!Shoshin will figure me out regardless of my alignment and if I'm scum will get me lynched, and I won't be able to do anything about it because I've said she's obvtown. I don't think I could pocket Shoshin, honestly. I'm townreading you a fair amount, but re:paranoia I was mostly saying that I'm just not feeling paranoid yet this game, not that you've moved up in my reads.
I would love to see anyone voting me make a case, because if you're sheeping RC's case, it basically wasn't one. This is the one thing that makes it so hard for me to townread RC's slot with any certainty - I can now talk about the fact that I just lost to RC in Friemds mafia - I was town PR, he was scum. I feel like I'm playing town similarly to how I was there, and think he should know that I have somewhat weak play as town, and feel he would only think to push me here as scum. But that's also too personal probably, and I am townreading GE, and part of what I've learned from last game is I can't read RC, so idk.
Also Shoshin knows me better as a player than most players on this site with the possible exception of Nauci, and I encourage y'all to sheep her on me.
All of that said, @creature why do you townread me? That doesn't seem to match your play regarding me so far

[xyzzy]

this is xyzzy, your moderator, your best friend, and your basketball coach. just, like, run back and forth across the court for a bit.

votecount 1.20

5 players voting for Gammagooey (skitter30, SirCakez, Irrelephant11, Creature, Nosferatu)
3 players voting for Irrelephant11 (northsidegal, Varsoon, Porkens)
2 players voting for Gamma Emerald (xRECKONERx, xRECKONERx)
2 players voting for Varsoon (Shoshin, Kokichi Oma)
1 player voting for Porkens (Gammagooey)
1 player voting for xRECKONERx (Gamma Emerald)

0 players not voting for lynch

with 14 votes, it takes 8 to lynch.

4 players voting for Shoshin for Fantasy Gachapon (Irrelephant11, Gammagooey, skitter30, Gamma Emerald)
2 players voting for xRECKONERx for Fantasy Gachapon (Varsoon, xRECKONERx)
1 player voting for Kokichi Oma for Fantasy Gachapon (Kokichi Oma)
1 player voting for Gamma Emerald for Fantasy Gachapon (Shoshin)

5 players not voting for Fantasy Gachapon (northsidegal, Porkens, Nosferatu, Creature, SirCakez)

the current day will end in (expired on 2018-09-24 17:00:00).

mod notes:

[skitter30]

No firm eta but I have a goal of getting caught up before eod1 so hopefully the next few days
Also wdym gut town

again

? Only game I remember with you that’s completed is presidents mafia and I don’t recall you thinking of me that way

Subject: Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia (Game Over)

i'm kinda gut-townreading gamma atm but i have literally no justification for it besides gut

Subject: Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia (Game Over)

i'm kinda gut town on gamma; and gamestate supports town gamma, even though he himself is not exactly a beacon of towniness

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Gammagooey wagon is garbar

Gammagooey disappeared pretty quickly though.

yeah he hasn't like reacted to it at all

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Hehe I find Irrel towny.

since when is this a thing?

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@skitter I do sheep shoshin a lot D1. I've never correctly identified & pushed scum on my own D1 (unlike shoshin), and have only hit scum by sheeping town who's better than me at playing this phase. I'm trying to learn the weak points in my play, and that's one. Imo sheeping is pro-town if you can find a towny slot, and if you're also hard townreading shoshin I don't know what you're concerned about... Like town!Shoshin will figure me out regardless of my alignment and if I'm scum will get me lynched, and I won't be able to do anything about it because I've said she's obvtown. I don't think I could pocket Shoshin, honestly. I'm townreading you a fair amount, but re:paranoia I was mostly saying that I'm just not feeling paranoid yet this game, not that you've moved up in my reads.

yeah ok; i think that's a fair way to play

i'm less confident in my read on you now but i don't think it's something i want to pursue today; i think shoshin can read you a lot better and more confidently than i can (i think the only reason i didn't try to lynch you in american presidents mafia is cuz you got cleared) and she won't be here till next week;

[Kokichi Oma]

So sad that varsoon wont be lynched.

[Kokichi Oma]

Creature might be scum. Damn

[Porkens]

VOTE: gammagooey

Full circle man, full circle.

[SirCakez]

How is Emerald solidifying a townread at all with that sparse posting and line towning?

I'm not crazy about the wagon makeup on GammaGoo. Obviously, given I'm voting Irrel.

It feels like a good entrance tonewise. Like he's not hesitant to get into it or waiting assess the field.

VOTE: gammagooey

Full circle man, full circle.

what is ever going on with you

[SirCakez]

even* not ever

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: gammagoey idc anymore

[xyzzy]

this is xyzzy, your moderator, your best friend, and your platonic life partner. we're just, like, friends and stuff!

votecount 1.21

7 players voting for Gammagooey (skitter30, SirCakez, Irrelephant11, Creature, Nosferatu, Porkens, Kokichi Oma)
2 players voting for Irrelephant11 (northsidegal, Varsoon)
2 players voting for Gamma Emerald (xRECKONERx, xRECKONERx)
1 player voting for Varsoon (Shoshin)
1 player voting for Porkens (Gammagooey)
1 player voting for xRECKONERx (Gamma Emerald)

0 players not voting for lynch

with 14 votes, it takes 8 to lynch.

4 players voting for Shoshin for Fantasy Gachapon (Irrelephant11, Gammagooey, skitter30, Gamma Emerald)
2 players voting for xRECKONERx for Fantasy Gachapon (Varsoon, xRECKONERx)
1 player voting for Kokichi Oma for Fantasy Gachapon (Kokichi Oma)
1 player voting for Gamma Emerald for Fantasy Gachapon (Shoshin)

5 players not voting for Fantasy Gachapon (northsidegal, Porkens, Nosferatu, Creature, SirCakez)

the current day will end in (expired on 2018-09-24 17:09:00)

mod notes:

[xyzzy]

I briefly forgot that the lynch threshold is 8, not 7. carry on, with an extra 9 minutes added to the deadline.

[skitter30]

UNVOTE:

kokichi did you think you were casting the hammer vote?

[northsidegal]

not sure why this lynch is happening specifically

[Gammagooey]

Gamma Emerald is solidifying my town read on the slot.

for future reference since it looks like I might be dying today Gemerald's done basically nothing except state a town read Cakez and make two tiny comments on earlygame posts

there's nothing there to reasonably townread

VOTE: SirCakez

[skitter30]

gamma g i still want to vote you but i'm having reservations in that the back end of your wagon is quite ugly and i'm not ready to end the day yet

i kinda feel like a lot of the people you're voting or scumreading is like ... easy or safe if that makes sense

i don't know why you're voting sircakez here; i don't really scumread anything they've done. i don't explicitly townread them either but i don't think they're scummy

like i just said i guttownread gamma e but you're not taking exception to me doing that like you are with sircakez?

[Irrelephant11]

not sure why this lynch is happening specifically

You should look into that

Gamma Emerald is solidifying my town read on the slot.

for future reference since it looks like I might be dying today Gemerald's done basically nothing except state a town read Cakez and make two tiny comments on earlygame posts

there's nothing there to reasonably townread

VOTE: SirCakez

If there is nothing to reasonably townread on the RC/GE slot, why is your vote on SirCakez?

[Gammagooey]

@skitter & irrelephant

826 reads quite fake. Like a big content dump to try to stave off the forming wagon.

It is a big content dump and I'm aware that there are a few people voting me

I can't really point out anything new Porkens has been doing as my strongest scumread because he's done literally nothing that suggests he's even trying to scumhunt, I haven't been around for the most part since friday, and I don't think most people in the game had a decent understanding of where my reads were at prior to basically now, what do you think I'd be doing instead here?

Like from your iso it looks like the entire reason you changed from Porkens to me was because I didn't show up and town it up while I was V/LA which seems a little silly

@Varsoon - what's your strongest scumread aside from RC atm?

GE's done nothing to deserve the stronger townread from cakez, I think RC's ego covers a lot of things that he did that would be scummy for other players but I think it's at least reasonable for the posts to be coming from RC-town

like i just said i guttownread gamma e but you're not taking exception to me doing that like you are with sircakez?

I wouldn't be that surprised if you were scum, but Cakez pinging off a townread on GE for what feels like just townreading him IS also way worse than your mention of guttownreading him while poking at him by asking when he'll actually catch up with the game

[Gammagooey]

wait i think i quoted the wrong thing with that first quote

actual thing:

Cakez for me is more of a scum read based on his posts just feeling bad to me with the little side bonus that I think his vote progression has been weird and involved jumping on and off of Porkens despite what seemed like scumreading him fairly strongly for a bit from his iso. I think the closest I can get to describing how his play's felt to me is that most of his read reasoning's felt kinda fluffy and really surface-level so far, and that his progression from Porkens to me being 'Porkens needs death' to agreeing with RC's case on me to saying I haven't done anything to change his mind when I had posted twice that I wouldn't be around for the weekend feels more like an excuse to get off of Porkens than him really coming to the conclusion that I'm the best vote atm.

[Nosferatu]

yall really tried to just end his career lmao

[Gammagooey]

Like read over cakez iso in regards to me in particular because it's just him latching onto RC's case and saying my posts are bad to justify my lynch while momentum to lynch me is there.

does porkens town play like this? His gamma vote is so bad too.

VOTE: porkens
this needs death

@Creature, Cakez, NSG, Nosferatu

Can we really not lynch Porkens?

He needs death at some point for sure. He's being fucking useless and there's a decent chance he's scum. I could hold off though, he will be an easy lynch later like noted.
I don't want to lynch Irrelephant. Could do Gamma. I feel like he's been a non-presence and can't remember any of his posts, which is usually a good scum tell. Plus the case on him was good.
Also have basically no opinion on Nos or Reck so IDGAF if we lynch them.

he's done enough reading to have better thoughts than this, he just doesn't because he's scum and hiding behind his doublevoter townread lets him get away with that.
also: the doublevoter wouldn't have been nerfed if it was a town doublevoter. it's nerfed for the specific balance reason of allowing town to force him to burn it later in the game.

Reck is kinda scummy but I don't think this bit holds up. Mod could just as easily given that restriction to a town DV so that they don't become conf-town in late game.

Regardless sad to see you go Reck, you are fun to play with.

VOTE: Gamma
This can go now, haven't seen anything to change my mind.

Misunderstanding? No. Varsoon is scum who got caught early and now is trying to make up for it with lots of meanignless activity that hasn't actually got us any closer to finding scum and none of which actually contains anything towny. His ISO is empty of meaningful scumhunting.

So what should a townie you've decided is scum do?
Roll over and go, "Fuck this game"?
I'm not RC.

Varsoon is right on this. I've been in this situation before and being scumread even more for trying to keep playing by people tunneled on me as town is incredibly frustrating and p much Varsoon's posts are expressing that.

826 reads quite fake. Like a big content dump to try to stave off the forming wagon.

It is a big content dump and I'm aware that there are a few people voting me

I can't really point out anything new Porkens has been doing as my strongest scumread because he's done literally nothing that suggests he's even trying to scumhunt, I haven't been around for the most part since friday, and I don't think most people in the game had a decent understanding of where my reads were at prior to basically now, what do you think I'd be doing instead here?

Like from your iso it looks like the entire reason you changed from Porkens to me was because I didn't show up and town it up while I was V/LA which seems a little silly

@Varsoon - what's your strongest scumread aside from RC atm?

There was more reasoning than that. Look at the case RC made on you.

ummm varsoon, porkens, reck, and your slot have had most of the attention in terms of votes

Gammagooey is up there too.

an enormous quotechain and cakez responding to it

826 reads quite fake. Like a big content dump to try to stave off the forming wagon.

[Creature]

not sure why this lynch is happening specifically

He's like my only scumread this game rn.

[Creature]

VOTE: skitter