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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:40 am

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In post 470, RadiantCowbells wrote:wanna sheep me sheeping you or w/e you want to call it?
meh

i know that everyone currently in my poe can't be scum, so i think i want to give myself a bit more time just to figure out which among them is actually the best vote (i.e. most likely to flip scum), as well as for people to just get more content in

right now that best vote for me is dragon but it might change
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:02 am

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if y'all get fucked over by scum!rc I will laugh at all of you post-game
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:03 am

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idrc if you think I'm scum,

Wh4t is problem town
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Rc probscum

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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:03 am

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oh yeah scadd is scum
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:04 am

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rc I'm young and tired but give me a reason to fight you even more than I already want to
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:08 am

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hi young and tired
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:12 am

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some catchup stuff

Spoiler:
In post 312, Performer wrote:
In post 205, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 203, Skygazer wrote:1. my success rate through smart-sheeping is better than my success rate when figuring out my own reads so actually i think ill actually just sheep from here on out
ur not voting with me :cry:
In post 206, Skygazer wrote:hm why is era town?

VOTE: performer
Just saw this during the catchup.

sky might not be town either
agreed
In post 314, Performer wrote:Never played with schad before but he seems to be sorting folks like sky, dunn; interacting with others like sky & rc to get reads. He doesn't seem to be scumreading rc and I.
Going to say schad is town here.

This could be rc's town game due to the way he's been reaction testing and how his reads list has been going. The thing I've noticed when I played with him in many past games , is it gets somewhat easier for me to ascertain his alignment in later phase after d1. Haven't seen enough to make me get an AI read on rc though, so null.
why do you TR schadd for sorting the more contentious people but ignoring RC, the most influential player this game?
In post 317, northsidegal wrote:VOTE: eragon
why do you think im scum?
In post 318, Carcalilly wrote:that tunneling rc tho
I envy u eragoo

I have my opinions and I am allowed to have them
b ut schadd is scummy cuz they're like not doing anything and I really don't like how their sentences are formulated in this game
Like thy feel so bland?

also I have no idea about the performer opinion but he's being quite informative so I have no plans to Lynch him

Also I like assuming everyone's town. At first. :3c
why do you envy me . >: i dont even envy myself

goes on to SR schadd for sentencing ?!?
In post 319, Carcalilly wrote:north you maybe town but your votes kinda suck
:igmeou:
In post 327, Wh4t wrote:
In post 305, RadiantCowbells wrote:@wh4t, where's Skygazer on your readslist and why did you vote Eragon who I'm not voting?
I thought sky was next to shadd. Ive played with both sky and Era before. I think Era is awkward - almost too try hard for what I remember. Sky could easily drop down but his longer posts with good insight give me pause.

Can you explain the high odds you have for sky?
what do you mean by im awkward?
and Sky's long posts give you a slight town lean on her but My long posts dont?
i dont really see where that comes from...
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In post 319, Carcalilly wrote:north you maybe town but your votes kinda suck
is that so

so if you understand the reasons why i said that you're suspicious you couldn't be saying that my vote on you sucks, so you must be saying that my vote on eragon sucks

so why don't you enlighten me as to why eragon's content is ""
why dont you enlighten us as to why im scum?
In post 335, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 330, northsidegal wrote:
In post 319, Carcalilly wrote:north you maybe town but your votes kinda suck
is that so

so if you understand the reasons why i said that you're suspicious you couldn't be saying that my vote on you sucks, so you must be saying that my vote on eragon sucks

so why don't you enlighten me as to why eragon's content is ""
Scum does not simply tunnel rc.

To be serious, they just have good opinionated content and the conversations their holding are meaningful. (besides the 30% shitposts)
wait i tunnel'd RC?
i like shitposts, they fun.
but i also like winning, it fun.
YAY!
In post 338, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 37, Performer wrote:
In post 22, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 21, Performer wrote:Dunn you didn't mention me (though I'm town, yess) in your c, d, e.
Because you're F?
Hold on, you mentioned 3 people and I had the 2nd highest % to be scum . None of those 3 were me or the bottom 2 iirc.
Plus we've played 22 games together where I've never seen you come out of the gate voting someone like this.

Only reason I haven't put you on L-1 is that I'm not sure if we have any quick hammer types in here, I've never played a game without any prs like this , and so...that dual combination scares me on pg 2. If we had prs, I'd feel much safer with a safety net but damn. I've also seen your town game in case you are actually town so putting you at L-1 in case someone quick hammers, is too risky so early.

I want to see what more people say.
The 3 people I mentioned were people with low chances of bbeing scum with me - my thinking may have been flawed but you constantly pointing to yourself is weird
In post 304, Eragon wrote:VOTE: Dunnstral

read scum and fairly good equity on top of that
This is weird
whats weird about it???
In post 340, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm reporting you

NSG if I vote eragon will you powerlynch skygazer not before endgame but tomorrow?
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In post 352, RadiantCowbells wrote:unfortunately I can't take the risk on an eragon vote right now.

but weren't you like, hard SR'ing me?
In post 353, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't even want to case Skygazer because I don't want to give away the reasons for my vote there.

:cry:
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In post 369, RadiantCowbells wrote:ahem

nsg r scums
why do you think NSG is scum?
im not seeing it...
In post 377, Wh4t wrote:On a scale from "probs scum" to "doubt = zero" where are you on that read RC?

Pedit ew Carcalilly lol.
interesting reaction to a set vote.
instead of asking or like actually reacting, Wh4t just goes, "Ew"
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:29 am

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Spoiler:
In post 379, RadiantCowbells wrote:no you should be lynched because you're scum

you being a potentially dangerous scum player isn't teh reason ur scum
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In post 381, schadd_ wrote:still interested in flipping dunnie personally...
same
*five high*
In post 382, schadd_ wrote:like im thinking if its dunn and skygazer then rc and i high five and then retire from mafia forever knowing we did a good job as a team
what about me ;_;
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In post 373, Wh4t wrote:I think it would be unusual for scum to things like "why are you surface reading x's post when the intent is clear"
i think perhaps you might be missing the full context of that interaction

skygazer expressed intention to quickhammer dunnstral if he reached L-1 despite already being on the wagon. that was what she was referencing when she said "taking that point at face value"
In post 121, Eragon wrote:wolfy.
why the hell would you want to quick hammer this early?
claiming that you will just gives you the space to not get lynched tommorow if you do and Dunn flips town.
Why are you taking that post at face value when I was already voting for Dunn?


although maybe you were fully aware of that and were still making that point, which i would find strange
ya i agreed that i missed the vote
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In post 219, Skygazer wrote:why do you feel the need to explain why your reads are typically all over the place early on?
it's interesting to me that after i asked this question RC went from hard scumreading performer to townreading them and in fact clearing them and others in a way that would point towards me being most likely scum

im interested to see if it's because RC is scum and wanted to go after me after questioning him or if he thinks im so likely to be scum that he's clearing performer on associations

and RC went ahead and just answered that second one for me so

RC, why are you townreading performer?
p.much a wish-washy read that ends up having no meaning
"if its RC scum, then this, or maybe he thinks this, which means this, but oh he just said this,"
In post 390, RadiantCowbells wrote:and you have to call me scum at this point because you lose in every other world besides lynching me today.
:wink:
In post 392, Skygazer wrote:I've seen town-RC be willing to keep his reads close to the chest but like not to this extreme

all these changing reads seem super convenient and honestly it feels like he's setting up a mislynch on me and then the rest of his PoE pool feels like potential lynchbait that's super easy to push

like look at how he goes from TRing to SRing to TRing to SRing era

and then he goes and starts to waiver on his nsg read

he clears performer because ???

and like from what i've seen from Wh4t so far I have no idea why he's not looking into that slot rn

I've seen RC do a lot of these reaction-testy pushes but honestly the way this is super extended and still unreasoned is giving me rlly bad vibes

VOTE: RC
yep that filthy omgus, just as RC predicted
also, on the topic of lynchbait, you've called at least 3-4 people lynchbait, which is almost half the playerlist...
so i would think its weird if he didnt have any "lynchbait" in his reads.
then it didnt seem like a wavered, maybe for a single post, then came back like "nah"
the 180's on me are weird but understandable
reaction-testy is towny AF
In post 395, Wh4t wrote:VOTE: RC :(

I just don't believe you my bro. Your overconfidence does seem agenda driven.
>right after a sky vote
In post 397, RadiantCowbells wrote:i've caught both scum, if you don't lynch them when I'm gone you're outright gamethrowing.
hopefully you'll live to see one scum get lynched :3
In post 398, RadiantCowbells wrote:that's enough actually playing the game for me
let's discuss how I can have 155 posts of trying to solve the game and working through reads and I can still be scumread at this point in the game (by wh4t, I know Skygazer is scum) literally no one else ever gets scumread here. LLD doesn't get scumread here. FA doesn't get scumread here. No MU player, not their best as scum get scumread here. But when I do it? nah I'm still scum.

I have strong reads I believe in? scum with an agenda. I don't have strong reads? scum lurking. I have reads that are right? scum bussing. reads wrong? scum pushing mislynches.

but in the end it doesn't matter what I do at least one person is going to scumread me and if I get reads good enough to threaten scum, it doesn't matter because a bunch of stupid fucks who would never correctly scumread me a day in their lives will mislynch me with them and blame me because they clearly have something broken upstairs.
yea RC is obv. town
In post 401, Wh4t wrote:Hmm. Your frustration does feel genuine, but I just can't shake that you do feel different. It reminds me a lot of your behaviour in TM early on. You feel distant :/
didnt you TR RC earlier?
what changed, and whats "different"?
In post 403, Skygazer wrote:UNVOTE:

town reaction?

RC, help me out here. Why are you scumreading me? Seeing a tunnel on me when I'm town is always extremely frustrating and even more so when it's you and you're not explaining it.
...
In post 405, Skygazer wrote:that's not true

i hate confrontation as scum
LOL THE SELF-THOUGHTS.
In post 410, RadiantCowbells wrote:note that i said skygazer/eragon mostly because, well, everyone else wasn't scum
and i think eragon is more likely to be town than wh4t right now.

they pulled this shit because they wanted to piss me off and discredit my read on skygazer in doing so.
i could see this
In post 412, Skygazer wrote:fine, lynch me, i flip town, you (if you're town) or nsg gets nightkilled

is that what you want?
this seems to come from someone with extra info
In post 413, Skygazer wrote:VOTE: skygazer
:?:
In post 417, Skygazer wrote:you know i have good reason to scum read you here
uhh not really
In post 418, RadiantCowbells wrote:you being scum and it being your best play is a good reason, yes
^
In post 438, RadiantCowbells wrote:i should just not play mafia if even carefully curated playerlists aren't playable.
whats so bad about this?
In post 442, Skygazer wrote:RC is town

i have a daycop
?!!?!
wow your so confident in a TR on someone you tried to lynch and push about a page before this is amazing!
In post 451, RadiantCowbells wrote:not sure if my flash of eragon town was legit or just tilt from being voted, will verify that after I get some distance
:cool:
In post 453, Skygazer wrote:I'm of the belief that this game won't really be able to move forward until I'm lynched and out of the way

VOTE: Sky
whats with all this self-votes jeez
In post 457, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 405, Skygazer wrote:that's not true

i hate confrontation as scum
star

UNVOTE:

even if signs point to scum you're too towny to kill day 1
why does sky "Self-metaing" strike you as towny in any way?
In post 459, RadiantCowbells wrote:can't lose to scum carca here, she's too obvscum even if i know she's lynchbaity.
i dont see the obv. scum.

I nedz help plz
In post 461, RadiantCowbells wrote:town vibes on era are real
town vibes on performer are real
rc town nsg town

kinda thinking about schadd/carcalilly right now
wh4t/skygazer still possible i guess

dunn could be scum with anyone I guess?
i dont think schadd is scum, carca is kinda ~~~ for me but i could be swayed
In post 468, Carcalilly wrote:goddammit

VOTE: radiantcowbells

Omgus + I will not allowed myself to loose to a scum!rc
why does it seem everyone vote by RC either OMGUS's or self-votes ?
In post 469, northsidegal wrote:
In post 461, RadiantCowbells wrote:town vibes on era are real
town era? i still feel like he's playing to a scum meta here.
In post 462, RadiantCowbells wrote:do you still scumread carca, NSG?
nothing's changed there.
what scum meta do you have?
In post 473, Wh4t wrote:VOTE: Carcalilly
why do you SR carca?
other than blind sheeping RC
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:30 am

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i mean i'm still down to lynch sky I guess because i have 0 town feelings about it but I'd feel bad if it flipped town
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:32 am

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VOTE: Skygazer

/shrug
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:34 am

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carca has to be lynched before lylo.
sky has to be lynched before lylo.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:34 am

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so fmpov it's just a question of choosing the order.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:38 am

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oh and look
skygazer has 59% scum equity
good enough for me
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:40 am

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really tragic that skygazer's 1s are myself and NSG
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:50 am

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this game is pissing me off slightly but that's not abnormal

If RC isn't nightkilled and sky flips town he's lockscum for me
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:51 am

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that's a pretty shitty way to play the game.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:52 am

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In post 478, Carcalilly wrote:oh yeah scadd is scum
you've yet to actually vote him
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:54 am

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In post 491, northsidegal wrote:
In post 478, Carcalilly wrote:oh yeah scadd is scum
you've yet to actually vote him
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:22 am

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VOTE: Carcalilly

needed to go anyways and they're 1st priority PL for recent comments.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:26 am

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In post 489, Carcalilly wrote:If RC isn't nightkilled and sky flips town he's lockscum for me
Hard disagree

I can see many reasons for town-RC to scumread me here
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:05 pm

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I really don't like his powergaming. I didn't expect this.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:06 pm

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I'm not stupid, my reasons for my suspicions are valid.
If you see some kind of fault or contradiction elsewhere please let me know because I don't know how to get the point across to y'all
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:10 pm

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what reasons for your suspicion?
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:11 pm

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In post 468, Carcalilly wrote:goddammit

VOTE: radiantcowbells

Omgus + I will not allowed myself to loose to a scum!rc
"I will not allow myself to lose to the best scum player on ms" but you can't correctly identify me as scum so your solution is to policy lynch me every game?
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:12 pm

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Caught up to pg 16.
In post 318, Carcalilly wrote:
also I have no idea about the performer opinion but he's being quite informative so I have no plans to Lynch him
posts like this from you carca..... "plans to lynch" me .... :shifty:
it seems rc has more experience with you than I do. I wonder if carca open wolfs like this if she is scum.

In post 374, Wh4t wrote:
In post 372, schadd_ wrote:wh4t (?) said something like "schadd has done reaction testing but hasnt taken stances" but i contend that i have done like no actual reaction tests and have taken several stances
You have two stances.

1. Dunnstral 5 posted so is scum
2. You like saying hi to NSG

Did I miss anything out? :P

You seem flip floppy on sky, what's your read there?
This post gives me a town feel from wh4t, he's keeping up and putting pressure.
In post 381, schadd_ wrote:still interested in flipping dunnie personally...
same. Don't want him to be in lylo based on what I've seen. still don't think he's town.
In post 386, Skygazer wrote:@RC: does me flipping town change your performer read at all?
Why would you ask him about me specifically ... what in the??
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