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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:26 pm

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If scum Irrel thought you'd scumread him for saying something, he wouldn't say it...
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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:27 pm

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Why coasting scum instead of disengaged town?
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:28 pm

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the lack of opinions or attempts at solving
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:31 pm

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Hmm, maybe. Why not Varsoon?
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:32 pm

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Why are you voting town Irrel?
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:34 pm

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In post 1047, Shoshin wrote:Irrel's 886 is a massive town tell btw
Maybe explain how?



@Gooey: What I've mentioned before; Don't like how eager he is to go with anything that's popular. Lots of posting and words that don't inform much of anything.
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:35 pm

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In post 1055, Varsoon wrote:Maybe explain how?
See 1050.
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:35 pm

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In post 1053, Shoshin wrote:Hmm, maybe. Why not Varsoon?
no reason in specific just scumread others more
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:35 pm

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I could do Reck too
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:35 pm

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tbh I feel like I could do anyone
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:36 pm

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I don't think you understand how a towntell works.
1050 can be wifom'd. It's not irrefutable proof. Scum can do anything.
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:37 pm

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In post 1059, Creature wrote:tbh I feel like I could do anyone
Keep the creature in your pants.
Why are you eager for blood?
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:42 pm

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In post 1060, Varsoon wrote:I don't think you understand how a towntell works.
1050 can be wifom'd. It's not irrefutable proof. Scum can do anything.
I don't think you understand how it works ...

Town tells are probabilistic...

WIFOM is just a fancy way of saying the improbable is possible.

886 is a strong indication that Irrel's town. I say this knowing Irrel and how he thinks/plays as town vs scum.
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:42 pm

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lets lynch reck first then
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:43 pm

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the flip should help sort my scumreads out anyways because of things like these
In post 998, Irrelephant11 wrote:Reading his ISO...

VOTE: Reckoner

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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:45 pm

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Could Irrel WIFOM 886 as scum? Yes. Is he likely to do so? No.
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:46 pm

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I'd rather lynch Varsoon. Just look at the way he's shading Irrel. It's super scummy.
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:47 pm

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In post 1060, Varsoon wrote:I don't think you understand how a towntell works.
1050 can be wifom'd. It's not irrefutable proof. Scum can do anything.
Like, look at this. Very scummy logic from Varsoon.
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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:49 pm

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this is xyzzy, your moderator, your best friend, and, for the last time of the day, your musical calendar. I am pleading with you: verify whether or not whether you remember. also be sure to check out these messages from my previous votecounts from today, because they're really important.

votecount 1.254 players voting for Gammagooey (SirCakez, Nosferatu, Porkens, Kokichi Oma)
3 players voting for Irrelephant11 (Varsoon, Creature, northsidegal)
2 players voting for xRECKONERx (Gamma Emerald, Irrelephant11)
2 players voting for Gamma Emerald (xRECKONERx, xRECKONERx)
1 player voting for Varsoon (Shoshin)
1 player voting for SirCakez (Gammagooey)

1 player not voting for lynch (skitter30)

with 14 votes, it takes 8 to lynch.

4 players voting for Shoshin for Fantasy Gachapon (Irrelephant11, Gammagooey, skitter30, Gamma Emerald)
2 players voting for xRECKONERx for Fantasy Gachapon (Varsoon, xRECKONERx)
1 player voting for Kokichi Oma for Fantasy Gachapon (Kokichi Oma)
1 player voting for Gamma Emerald for Fantasy Gachapon (Shoshin)

5 players not voting for Fantasy Gachapon (northsidegal, Porkens, Nosferatu, Creature, SirCakez)

the current day will end in (expired on 2018-09-24 17:09:00)

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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:50 pm

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In post 1065, Shoshin wrote:Could Irrel WIFOM 886 as scum? Yes. Is he likely to do so? No.
The fact you'd lean on logic like this to heavily inform a read means scum will dupe you time and time again. Stop that shit.

Furthermore, why the fuck you calling out 'WIFOM' when you're over here using 'shading' completely fucking wrong.
You just declare shit and never explain
How the fuck is 1067 'scummy logic' even?
That's what fucking shading is
You don't explain shit
you just say "LOOK AT THIS IT IS SCUMMY"
Like seriously holy shit
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:52 pm

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In post 565, xyzzy wrote:this is xyzzy, your moderator, your best friend, and your Pokemon trainer. go, Reuniclus, kick everybody's ass!
...I also really like Reuniclus.
If this is some secret mod messenger header ability, hi.
If not, I have appreciated the mod messages.
And I remember.
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:55 pm

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When you just point at any given thing and go "I DON'T LIKE IT" or call it scummy, I have no means of
1. Really engaging with your post at all besides trying to get you to be more thorough
2. Read your slot because there's not transparent logic behind posts

Like do you understand how this is frustrating?
Please explain things when you write them.
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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:57 pm

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Like when you say that one post is a towntell and the dude is town
That's a worthless post to me
All it tells me is "Shoshin sure does declare this"
And not why you'd write that or why it may even be a true thing
You're not engaging in a game of argument or presenting evidence, you're just making a thesis over and over and it doesn't do anything for the game, for making your slot easier to read, for anything.
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:58 pm

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To mislynch a townie, scum must knowingly argue that towny behaviors"could" come from scum. Town, on the other hand, evaluate probability by weighing of it's more likely than not that a behavior is town or scum.

For example, I looked at 886 and evaluated probability - it's likely town. Varsoon, in contrast, looked at 886, looked at my explanation that it's town, and countered by saying it COULD be scum, even though the relevant inquiry for a townie isn't whether it could be scum, it's whether it's likely scum or likely town. Varsoon doesn't care about probability, and instead is reframing probability as possibility (i.e. reframing as WIFOM), and that's a very scummy way to think about the game.
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:00 pm

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As someone that you scumread, it makes it very very difficult to engage with you
I can't understand where at all you're coming from
I just get frustrated when you declare things and seemingly use common terminology in incorrect ways
And you get so defensive when I push you for more
And then you just keep making these straight declarations
Again further driving my frustration with your play
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