A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[Chickadee]

There was never a world where I lynch Vecna D1 this game anyway.

[jjh927]

I feel a bit lost rn so give me a bit to recollect and we can do a different wagon

[mastina]

I feel a bit lost rn so give me a bit to recollect and we can do a different wagon

As a reminder: if you are approaching this from the mindset of, "we have less than two days until deadline, we need to flashwagon someone to the point of a lynch", you're approaching it wrong.

Unless someone raised a valid counterargument, we're no-lynching today …AFTER I use my ability successfully. Unless of course I hit scum, in which case sure we lynch them, but I would work under the assumption which is statistically the more probable outcome.

For instance, it seems Porkens is the most popular Vecna countetwagon, and Porkens is town, so. If I used my ability there, would be surprised if I was targeting scum.

Still. You can't forget about my power. I'm not using it yet because I still don't want to dictate the (no-)lynch yet, but I SHOULD, and therefore, WILL, be using it before the end of the day phase.

Still need to read the interim content in full, a bit limited at the moment since I'm phoneposting.

[mastina]

BTW my lynch list is:
Maid Café
NicoRobin
Chickadee
Titus
Kuroi
Lady Angel

Names on this list aren't necessarily scumreads, so much as, "everyone not on this list, I townread to some extent". (I can give a proper reads list once home.)

Would prefer to gladiate from this list, and if you have a strong townread in it, please explain in detail.
As soon as possible, I will reciprocate with why they aren't for me.

[Lady Angel]

UNVOTE:
If Vecna's claiming D2 IC, then I'm willing to give it a shot. I guess either Porkens or no lynch today? I'd almost prefer NL and a chance to reread and reset reads going into day 2, since I'm not feeling particularly confident in my own reads right now.

[NicoRobin]

Why no lynch? It only helps scum control the game.

You could help me lynch my scumread while you're at it. I will reciprocate in the following day.

[NicoRobin]

I think it's obvious that those advocating for no lynch today - like the two above me - should be lynched today.

[NicoRobin]

It's the only move to make.

[Ginngie]

Why no lynch? It only helps scum control the game.

stop with the blanket statements on how alignments play

you're gonna see town do something you saw on the "how to catch scum" wiki and be like BUT ITS WHAT SCUM DOES

do something better with your time like

explain why pushing a no lynch given the circumstances is scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:

[jjh927]

I agree, Mastina, but I guess I was thinking we flashwagon someone and then it's accepted that they are the target for your ability

I like your list but think you should take Maid off it and put Gamma Emerald on it

[Randomnamechange]

Sorry should have gone V/LA until tomorrow

[NicoRobin]

Why no lynch? It only helps scum control the game.

stop with the blanket statements on how alignments play

you're gonna see town do something you saw on the "how to catch scum" wiki and be like BUT ITS WHAT SCUM DOES

do something better with your time like

explain why pushing a no lynch given the circumstances is scummy

Because most people in the games I've played so far said that no lynch is scummy because it denies town information?

[Skygazer]

flashwagon nos?
VOTE: nos

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Kuroi
I think this has enough implicit support that it could be viable

[Ginngie]

Because most people in the games I've played so far said that no lynch is scummy because it denies town information?

About to hit you with those Big Fax

Old Guard no lynch was a common thing discussed

wasn't viewed as scummy.

If your reads are sheeping the crowd mentality, you'll be easily manipulated fam.


What do you think Lady Angel's motive for no lynching is?

Remember, if you lynch town, that's closer to scum's wincoin of having half the town dead.

So why would Lady Angel, as scum, want to deny the chance to kill a townie and instead prolong the game?

[Ginngie]

I swear to god I can't wait to put my suit back on

[Porkens]

I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO I NEED TP FOR MY BUNGHOLE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING INVIS?

[Invisibility]

ur mom

[Porkens]

VOTE: nolynch

[Ginngie]

okay now I'm happy

[mastina]

I agree, Mastina, but I guess I was thinking we flashwagon someone and then it's accepted that they are the target for your ability

I like your list but think you should take Maid off it and put Gamma Emerald on it

I can explain why Gamma is off (well, mostly recap it, since my reason hasn't changed much), can you highlight why Maid's off for you?

And, yes, I do intend to gladiate the lead Lynch candidate.

[NicoRobin]

Because most people in the games I've played so far said that no lynch is scummy because it denies town information?

About to hit you with those Big Fax

Old Guard no lynch was a common thing discussed

wasn't viewed as scummy.

If your reads are sheeping the crowd mentality, you'll be easily manipulated fam.

What do you think Lady Angel's motive for no lynching is?

Remember, if you lynch town, that's closer to scum's wincoin of having half the town dead.

So why would Lady Angel, as scum, want to deny the chance to kill a townie and instead prolong the game?

To allow the scum to control the game?

Besides, if she lead a lynch on townie, it would be a death sentence for her as scum. It's easier for scum to organize a no lynch every day and then have free kills each night.

[jjh927]

It's probably gone under the radar to everyone but myself but maid switched from a decent looking RVS push on me to TRing me when that hydra is probably the only slot in the game which I can reliably say would recognise my town meta without metadiving me

I don't see why they'd switch out that read if they were being lurky scum

[Ginngie]

To allow the scum to control the game?

Besides, if she lead a lynch on townie, it would be a death sentence for her as scum. It's easier for scum to organize a no lynch every day and then have free kills each night.

thats a blanket statement

Look at it from this angle

She would want to push a no lynch as scum to get heat off of a teammate.

So who is Lady Angel trying to protect from being run up by promoting a no lynch?

That's the motivation type stuff I want to see you try and figure out.

Also realize your statement is contradictory.

If you have the notion that it's scummy to push a no lynch and everyone views it to be scummy, then by definition, it would be hard for scum to push a no lynch since "everyone knows its a scum move," therefore it would never go through.

Thats the issue with blanket statements, I can argue circular logic forever.

The motivation thing tho, that changes every game and isn't circular.

So who is Lady Angel trying to protect from being run up by promoting a no lynch?