Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Toranaga]

no it's not

[RadiantCowbells]

why not?

[ruru]

votecount

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

RadiantCowbells (2):	Malakittens (8),	the worst (67),
CheekyTeeky (1):	Toranaga (14),
Malakittens (1):	Elsa Jay (15),
Elsa Jay (1):	CheekyTeeky (41),
TPFKAP (1):	Flicker (63),
Not voting (11):	Thor665,	Toogeloo,	RadiantCowbells,	TPFKAP,	Chickadee,	NicoRobin,	BuJaber,	Skygazer,	Reasonably Rational,	randomidget,	northsidegal,

(expired on 2018-10-16 02:00:00) remain.

[Elsa Jay]

Why would I not beleive it unless North denied it?

I'm trying too get my leads here, RC. If a Mason feels like claiming, no reason to not believe yet.

[the worst]

where's rule #9?

[Toranaga]

why not?

first of all, you're not even allowed to think elsa is scummy because outside of buying into your mason claim, elsa has been projecting town very hard the entire time he is here.

buying into your mason claim is something that always comes from a place of ignorance. it could be scum doing it, it could be town doing it, but it's always coming from a place where he doesn't know you enough, or he didn't even play mafia enough, to understand he shouldn't be reading into your mason claim like that.

you scumreading elsa here is not a good look at all.

[Toranaga]

VOTE: radiant cowbells

[RadiantCowbells]

if i really were masons with NSG there's very little crumbing i would have to do outside of 'if you lynch NSG you are fucking gamethrowing idiots'

you scumreading elsa here is not a good look at all.

VOTE: Toranaga

sure feels TMI

[Toranaga]

which would make elsa town too

[RadiantCowbells]

it says a lot more about your alignment than it does elsa's.

[Toranaga]

if I have TMI on elsa that says I'm scum and elsa is town

[RadiantCowbells]

it says that you have access to information that I don't because I don't believe that you could credibly come in with these viewpoints at this stage in the game.
it does not say whether you're scumdefending your buddy or whether you're white knighting elsa for towncred.

[Elsa Jay]

Captain's Log: Entry 1

Occupant RadiantCowbells seems to have decided too throw any good will i had with their Mason claim by calling me scummy.

Occupant is also causing a ruckus with my assumed ally,Toranaga.

Cautionary measures may have to be taken. We may have to gag and tie then up.

[Skygazer]

VOTE: toranaga

baa

[Malakittens]

Why not be serious yet dramatic, Mala?

Gotta help town now so you all actually listen to my advice later, ya know.

Care to share your reads then so far?

Your reaction felt overlydramatic.

Sorry I don't listen to scumbutts.

LOL. Care to share your reads "p2"?

You may be scum - it looks like you're trying to hard which is coming off scummy af.

Now 2 people have decided to vote a Mason claim.

I appear to have been put into a ship of crazy people.

Must Update my Captain's log.

Would you like to be lynched now or later?

elsa jay believing my mason claim is scummy

I think Elsa to be is coming off scummy because he's trying too hard. That or he just hasn't played with you enough to know your play style.

[Malakittens]

UNVOTE: RC.

I actually like RC's posts atm.

[Toranaga]

VOTE: malakittens

there's no way you're both town

[RadiantCowbells]

I feel like fact that he believed my mason claim shows that he didn't do any critical thinking about the claim which leans towards but doesn't confirm scum.

[Toranaga]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

[Toranaga]

malakittens MQ thing is several sheeped opinions condensed in a scumpost

[Flicker]

welcome to larges Flicker!! \o/
do you find any content in the last 3 pages to be interesting or alignment indicative?

Thanks!

So far, not a lot seems AI to me. The only things I really feel right now are:

• - Elsa seems towny (in an "aggressively try to solve the game ASAP even though that feels silly to me" way).
  - Toogeloo's reveal of role PM info also seems towny.
  - Cheeky is towny? I don't know if this is a gut feeling, or if I just want it to be true because of her avatar or something. (The same could be said about you, too, tw.)

I also lol'ed at Toranaga's Yugioh reference, but I'm not sure if that's what you mean by interesting...

Pedit: Tora seems towny in defending Elsa, too.

Pedit2: FWIW, I'm probably not gonna try to sort RC this game unless I have to (at Mylo/Lylo). I've seen enough to know that I don't know anything when it comes to his play.

[Toranaga]

I made a yugioh reference? lmao

[RadiantCowbells]

like I think the tone deafness and lack of thinking about the manner of the claim heavily leans towards scum because it shows he didn't really think about it in a sorting me sense
is it, like, impossible that he's town who didn't? no. it's not a strong read. but to outright townread Elsa's play so far is, in my view, implausible. Elsa plays like this as scum too.
I think Town!Toranaga might have the view that the scumreads on him are bad but to outright townread him for something that even by his logic is at worst NAI is... eh.
seems like a think Scum!Toranaga would do to look like he's coming in the game with innovative reads though.

[RadiantCowbells]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

but why would you be almost sure of this? why would elsa jay -not- do this as scum? because i'm fairly sure even he would say this is p much exactly what his scum game would look like

[Elsa Jay]

Calling me new doesnt help the situation, Tora.

I kinda know them from my time as Jaydragonking/Bambietta, so I decided to be friendly since they helped and talked to me before.

I literally had no reason to disbelieve your claim, RC. Just thought you were getting any protective roles on either you or North real quick in a Multiball game.