Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Flicker]

Did we confirm that slot is definitely porkens

Did we confirm that slot is definitely porkens

I can 100% confirm this, as this was confirmed in Labrynth.

~Nancy

i can also confirm TPFKAP is Porkens, unless Maplewood was lying to me. did not realize it was in doubt, really.

I can also confirm it’s porkens. It stands for The Player Formerly Known As Porkens

Something about this group of posts strikes me as a little off. Did we really need three people to confirm this info? Arguably NDS gets a pass for being the first one to answer, and Chick elaborating on what the initialism stands for is also helpful, but Chara's second-hand info (that they're not even totally confident in) helps how?

Then, going through their ISO, I found this:

hi all. rereading now, sorry for the wait.
want to say Rational's town just by skimming recent posts since i've replaced.

You can't

re

read unless you've already read. Is this a slip, revealing more information/awareness of the game than they're letting on? That strikes me as scummy.

VOTE: Chara

[CheekyTeeky]

Jingle am I wrong in assuming your confident scumread is on Thor?

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

And fuck you if you think I'd do this as scum cheeky

Would scum!RC really make this kind of post? I somehow doubt it.

~N

[CheekyTeeky]

If he did I'd be heartbroken.

[ruru]

votecount

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

NicoRobin (3):	Malakittens (1191),	Reasonably Rational (1200),	TPFKAP (1274),
TPFKAP (3):	BuJaber (1258),	Elsa Jay (1266),	Thor665 (1275),
Thor665 (3):	Jingle (1295),	CheekyTeeky (1328),	Nancy Drew Shogunate (1329),
Flicker (2):	northsidegal (153),	Chickadee (1241),
Reasonably Rational (1):	NicoRobin (473),
Elsa Jay (1):	Toogeloo (729),
BuJaber (1):	Skygazer (881),
Chara (1):	Flicker (1425),
Not voting (2):	Gamma Emerald,	Chara (1402),

(expired on 2018-10-16 02:00:00) remain.

[Chara]

Well I tried.

Anyway, voting up a dude who claimed to be in a Masonry?

Now admittedly, because this is (probably) Multiball he COULD theoretically be scum. But voting him?

VOTE: Malakittens

Obviously you COULD be joking, but this seems like a decent start.

this is probably a dumb question, but RC claimed masons with nsg, then Elsa talking about voting the mason claim and votes Mala, and then there is some conversation about my slot/Mala as mason buddies.
what happened here? am i dumb?

[Chara]

Now 2 people have decided to vote a Mason claim.

I appear to have been put into a ship of crazy people.

Must Update my Captain's log.

never mind. i just got it.

in my defense i'm very tired.

[Chara]

don't like how 140 both assumes Cheeky is town and preemptively defends that the players scumreading him can't read him. if he's scum here i'd guess Tor is following his town meta on purpose.
follow up posts might forgive if he's often misread by RC, so it might be nothing.would like to know why he seemed confident in Cheeky town early on.
i like Elsa on reading too, but the mere fact of being 3p who can easily be genuinely hunting while still having an anti-town wincon means i can't do anything with this townread.

don't like 191 either.

this kind of sucks. normally i don't like sheeping RC but i know he's town so it feels more viable. and our reads are very similar.
i like Cheeky too.

every time Toranaga explains his thought process more i stop scumreading him for earlier posts. like i like 319.

Cerb: i'm a little surprised at 324. normally i would expect you to cover all of your bases, not just two. ;>

i like 359 for the insight on Tora.
end of page 15.

[BuJaber]

I think I can read RC fairly well.
I can probably read RC better.
I don't think their argument was TvT. I think your slot is scum and Tora's is town.

I dunno, ISOing RC/Tora interactions makes me think it’s just too hostile not to be. Tell me why you disagree?

~Nancy

Because there are other reasons to scumread RC. Such as the scum claim.

Because they didn't start fighting from the beginning like they usually do. Only when Tora started getting active and defending Elsa hard did RC start shit up with him. Ignoring the emotional aspect of the argument, because RC is in better control of his emotions and better at explaining himself, if you look at what they're saying Tora is the one in the right here. Town!RC is smart enough to see that. Tora did have a point regarding Elsa, and more importantly their play really doesn't make sense if they were partners. Tora would know how TMI it would look. So RC doubling down on his scumread of Tora like that is pretty suspicous.

In BlazBlu crosstag game that just finished town!RC got into it with town!Tora. Town tora replaced. RC didn't feel the need to replace in his stead.

This time they were a little hesistant to engage each other and then they did and it just feels so different and RC's conclusions on Tora and Elsa don't make sense to me.

[Chara]

Flicker: mentioned what i knew of Porkens because i glanced at the thread and Chick's post is what i saw on the most recent page.
voting me for saying "reread" as a Freudian slip is rather funny, though. what benefit would there be to pretending i wasn't caught up?

[Chara]

BuJaber: your analysis in the last post ignores RC's ego.

[Reasonably Rational]

@Chara: I didn't really see other reasonable possibilities behind what RC said, and my answer was mostly tongue-in-cheek.

-Cerb

[BuJaber]

BuJaber: your analysis in the last post ignores RC's ego.

So you think he would continue a losing battle?

Imo Tora was eventually going to win that fight. Particularly with how rep-outs seem to be townread on this site.

[Chara]

Here's my issue with RR and why I'm having difficult reading him/them directly: the tone and demeanor just feels townie.. but there's like actually very little in the way of reads except that thing about how I'm not suspicious atm but I might be later which is not actually a read.

Like I'm getting strong townie vibes but everytime I read the actual posts I think 'well he's just stating things that are pretty much neutral or that he believes as facts.' Those are the types of arguments that both town and scum alike can have while being completely genuine.

have you played with Rational? this is pretty standard for them, especially day 1. they rarely give reads on the first day.

[Chara]

BuJaber: i don't know about the fight. by his ego i meant doubling down on his scumread instead of listening to Tora's thoughts on Elsa. RC's replaced out as scum before i believe, but doing so like this is something he's done many a time as town, and much more. you can ask somebody besides me on that as well. ;>

Cerb: fair enough. i did bring it up for a reason but i'm mostly satisfied with your play, so it's probably fine. haven't read the second half of the game yet.

[Chara]

oh, and checking the VC:
why the Robin vote, Cerb? (checked your ISO briefly and didn't see. also, missed you too. <3)

[BuJaber]

Here's my issue with RR and why I'm having difficult reading him/them directly: the tone and demeanor just feels townie.. but there's like actually very little in the way of reads except that thing about how I'm not suspicious atm but I might be later which is not actually a read.

Like I'm getting strong townie vibes but everytime I read the actual posts I think 'well he's just stating things that are pretty much neutral or that he believes as facts.' Those are the types of arguments that both town and scum alike can have while being completely genuine.

have you played with Rational? this is pretty standard for them, especially day 1. they rarely give reads on the first day.

I have not, good to know.

I've moved to a a fairly confident townread since. You'll read it when you're not.

[Chickadee]

Oh man I had to go back and double check I was voting Flicker. That last Flicker post was bad.

[Reasonably Rational]

BuJaber: i don't know about the fight. by his ego i meant doubling down on his scumread instead of listening to Tora's thoughts on Elsa. RC's replaced out as scum before i believe, but doing so like this is something he's done many a time as town, and much more. you can ask somebody besides me on that as well. ;>

Cerb: fair enough. i did bring it up for a reason but i'm mostly satisfied with your play, so it's probably fine. haven't read the second half of the game yet.

I'd love to hear the reason. I imagine there's something else you saw as an option that I neglected.

With regards to Nico: Drixx and I are doing something different, and actually voting. The majority of our votes so far have been purely to apply more pressure to a forming wagon. The vote on Nico was much the same, but the fact that their only content has been to express a vendetta against Drixx and myself did ping us.

-Cerb

[Jingle]

Jingle am I wrong in assuming your confident scumread is on Thor?

If I wanted to answer this question, I would have answered it before you asked it. Read into that what you will.

[Chara]

I'd love to hear the reason. I imagine there's something else you saw as an option that I neglected.

With regards to Nico: Drixx and I are doing something different, and actually voting. The majority of our votes so far have been purely to apply more pressure to a forming wagon. The vote on Nico was much the same, but the fact that their only content has been to express a vendetta against Drixx and myself did ping us.

-Cerb

i'll give you a hint: it's not me being mafia, and it's not RC being wrong.
well. technically.
thanks for the answer on Robin, that makes sense.

[Reasonably Rational]

Whoever is out there engage with me and direct my attention where you desire. I'm also going to be poking Drixx to see if I can get a short version of his thoughts on the game state, since he told me he had caught up with the game.

Hmm. I don't have a list of people I'd like you to poke, but I do have a list of people I'm planning on poking/don't care about at the moment. If you can make the NotPorkens or the NR make more wordnoises, it would be appreciated. If you're not a witch and limited to reasonable requests, I'd enjoy attempts to sort/draw content from/elaborations about anyone not on the following list:


Toogaloogaloog
Elsa
GEmerald
Thor
Cheeky
Toraganate
Skygazer
TPFKAP
NR
Chara
Chick

If you could pick two of the not them players, and then talk about them I'd be

Feel free to talk about me. I love hearing about me.

Two from this(much shorter than the list you made) list then, excluding myself?

Jingle the worst
Flicker
BuJaber
Malakittens
northsidegal

-Cerb

[Jingle]

Aye, that appears to be correct.

[Jingle]

You can talk about yourself if you want. I won't be offended.

[Reasonably Rational]

I'd love to hear the reason. I imagine there's something else you saw as an option that I neglected.

With regards to Nico: Drixx and I are doing something different, and actually voting. The majority of our votes so far have been purely to apply more pressure to a forming wagon. The vote on Nico was much the same, but the fact that their only content has been to express a vendetta against Drixx and myself did ping us.

-Cerb

i'll give you a hint: it's not me being mafia, and it's not RC being wrong.
well. technically.
thanks for the answer on Robin, that makes sense.

Eh, town killing roles are a thing, but I knew RC wouldn't shoot me if he was town!

...And there's also other options, yes, but I don't see the benefit to talking about them. ^^

-Cerb