A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[jjh927]

Mainly that you've waited until after Mastina used her gladiate to join or even comment on the people trying to lynch her when she's apparently been a consistent scumread for you

[jjh927]

If I'm making assumptions that you don't agree with then point them out. Otherwise my logic is fine and your outright "setup spec is never valid" logic falls TOTALLY flat when you recall that I have correctly used setup spec to assist in casing you in an RC game

[Skygazer]

VOTE: no lynch

[NicoRobin]

If I'm making assumptions that you don't agree with then point them out. Otherwise my logic is fine and your outright "setup spec is never valid" logic falls TOTALLY flat when you recall that I have correctly used setup spec to assist in casing you in an RC game

Go read Steven Universe 2 game mafia, hosted by Varsoon. Focus on Reasonably Rational. Right there is the fault in your assumptions. People read his role as towny and yet he ended up being scum. Hence, reading someone as town on their role alone is a bad idea. Even mastina herself would agree with me on this one.

[jjh927]

This rings a bell because you have made this exact argument to me while you were scum and I was correctly setup speccing someone as town

[jjh927]

VOTE: Vecna

Because scum role can have town utility and still be scum role and flavor is not indicative of alignment either. Go read SU2 mafia for details on how scum role can have town flavor and town utility and still be a scum role.

Just an example because you mentioned SU2 like all the time in that game




Okay NicoRobin is scum, I'm satisfied

[jjh927]

You're still relying on an example that doesn't and never will apply to me and my highly rigorous methodology for determining whether or not a role is town or scum by setup spec

Refute my logic, don't try to counterexample it unfittingly

[NicoRobin]

And you also used setup spec combined with my play to nail me in that game. Here, you are only using one and not the other.

I'll make it easy for you. Forgo setup spec for a moment and tell me how is mastina town by play.

[jjh927]

I did kinda want to get you going on a rant about how you are or aren't useless earlier because that would have made my job easier but it didn't happen

either way
mudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamuda

[jjh927]

Don't have to forgo setup spec when this has got a much higher accuracy rate in this circumstance than play could ever have

[Varsoon]

Go read Steven Universe 2 game mafia, hosted by Varsoon. Focus on Reasonably Rational. Right there is the fault in your assumptions. People read his role as towny and yet he ended up being scum. Hence, reading someone as town on their role alone is a bad idea. Even mastina herself would agree with me on this one.

I RAN THAT GAME and I still think Mastina is town
VOTE: No Lynch

[NicoRobin]

Don't have to forgo setup spec when this has got a much higher accuracy rate in this circumstance than play could ever have

Then your viewpoint is meaningless, considering that you used both to nail me and you refuse to do that here. I hate smartasses who think their analysis is the only valid one in the whole game and that everyone who disagrees is an idiot.

[jjh927]

In this case, the setup spec is much more concrete than it was there. There is a lower threshold when it comes to determining whether someone is very likely to be town than there is determining whether someone is very likely to be scum

[jjh927]

In this case, the setup spec is much more concrete than it was there. There is also a lower threshold when it comes to determining whether someone is very likely to be town than there is determining whether someone is very likely to be scum

ebwop

[NicoRobin]

Well, your 100 % certainty that mastina is scum bothers me.

[NicoRobin]

Well, your 100 % certainty that mastina is town here bothers me.

because the only way you can be that certain of it is if you are scum yourself, otherwise there would be some doubt in you, no matter how small.

[NicoRobin]

If there was no gladiate, I'd be voting you right now just for that.

[jjh927]

She's not 100% town because I'm accounting for maybe like 5% error on my account

that said she is town and I've explained most of the reasons why the setup spec works. I'm looking for other subtle shit too but I don't want to tell people how to fakeclaim past me when detecting fakeclaims is my jam

[jjh927]

Also ayyy you're going in on the 1V1 I like that you should NK me though because you'll lose it

[NicoRobin]

Then, if you are town, go ahead and lose.

[jjh927]

Seriously though your argument falls flat because you're saying confidence makes me scum when you've played with me before

[jjh927]

Goddamn I wish this could have happened before what is essentially twilight

[Chickadee]

Anyone wanting to keep Mastina around a long time, please tell me why scum doesn’t just fake claim that to coast all game and fuck town over on information. It’s pretty brilliant actually. Of course town doesn’t want to lynch what is essentially a public day cop they can keep using over and over.


VOTE: mastina
Not that I expect you all to actually lynch her.

[jjh927]

How much are you suggesting has been fakeclaimed?

[NicoRobin]

Also ayyy you're going in on the 1V1 I like that you should NK me though because you'll lose it

Let me show you something interesting.

Speaking of Nico, I forgot to mention she moved from one of my main scumspects to being among my strongest townreads. The thing I was looking for, she displayed to an extent which I don't think she's capable of faking as scum.

The person you are townreading with such certainty townreads me. What does that tell you?