A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[Chickadee]

How much are you suggesting has been fakeclaimed?

The loyal modifier

[jjh927]

Fakeclaiming loyal in a public way in a role madness game in day 1 would not be in Mastina's playbook as it would be a deeply foolish and risky decision, as there are many ways that the claim could be tested and result in what was basically a guilty. Furthermore, as flavour strongly supports the gladiate being only usable on town, I am overall extremely strongly inclined to believe it is not a fakeclaim

[Lady Angel]

VOTE: No Lynch

I'd like to see one of Jingle/Vecna gladiated tomorrow, I don't think that was a town vs town argument.

[jjh927]

Also ayyy you're going in on the 1V1 I like that you should NK me though because you'll lose it

Let me show you something interesting.

Speaking of Nico, I forgot to mention she moved from one of my main scumspects to being among my strongest townreads. The thing I was looking for, she displayed to an extent which I don't think she's capable of faking as scum.

The person you are townreading with such certainty townreads me. What does that tell you?

Fuck all

Town don't automatically have good reads

[NicoRobin]

Also ayyy you're going in on the 1V1 I like that you should NK me though because you'll lose it

Let me show you something interesting.

Speaking of Nico, I forgot to mention she moved from one of my main scumspects to being among my strongest townreads. The thing I was looking for, she displayed to an extent which I don't think she's capable of faking as scum.

The person you are townreading with such certainty townreads me. What does that tell you?

Fuck all

Town don't automatically have good reads

That means that you, if town, don't have good reads either.

[jjh927]

No it doesn't

Town don't automatically have bad reads


The argument you're making rn is what the kids call flailing

[NicoRobin]

So which is it?

Town doesn't automatically have good reads, or town doesn't automatically have bad reads? Cos you've said both.

You are the one flailing, not me.

[NicoRobin]

jjh and mastina are scum together. That's why he townreads her so strongly, she is the endgame player for his team.

[jjh927]

Both of those statements are completely compatible

[jjh927]

Town don't even automatically have reads at all

[NicoRobin]

Whatever. Since you townread mastina by role alone, I'll have some concrete info proving beyond a shadow of doubt that mastina is scum by the next day, and then you'll lynch her.

[NicoRobin]

@Porkens Still want me to tell 'em?

[Creature]

This thread keeps disappearing from my ego

[Jingle]

Jingle, care to inform us how much of the game you have actually read?

You seem way pretty darn confident in all your stances for someone that just replaced in, and really aware of all the shit going on.

I read a good chunk of D1 some weeks ago for reasons I can't go into right now.

I read up until your post restriction showed up when Rylai and Shino (the hydra that is now Meme Men) was being replaced, decided fuck post restrictions and didn't replace in.

I have read the following ISOs: jjh, rm, Vecna, mastina, NR, Porkens (Not in order, and not all since replacing in). I've read everything since I replaced in, or will have soon.

I have read the full ISO of the mod.

I have read 2-3 pages at a time around big events. Particularly, I read most of the super early game two or three times to make sure I caught everything and the section around jjh's wall stuck out to me.

[Jingle]

she is the endgame player for his team.

This is never accurate, btw.

[Jingle]

VOTE: No Lynch

I'd like to see one of Jingle/Vecna gladiated tomorrow, I don't think that was a town vs town argument.

Down. 10000% Down.

[Jingle]

VOTE: No Lynch

[Jingle]

please tell me why scum doesn’t just fake claim that to coast all game and fuck town over on information.

Let me give you a list of roles that would screw with that plan.

Cop.
Gunsmith.
Rolecop.
Desperado.
Vig.
SK.

So... Pretty much every powerful investigation role that exists. One of which was already used in this game. All of which were reasonably likely to be included, because ROLE MADNESS.

[Jingle]

Mastina already noted herself that the mod had no flavor for a no lynch. She even stated the mod had given her a troll role. Hints at the setup not being designated to resolve around a day-cop that relies on a lot of trust being given.

Explain how this, in any way, is an argument for mastina being scum.

[Vecna]

VOTE: Vecna

Because scum role can have town utility and still be scum role and flavor is not indicative of alignment either. Go read SU2 mafia for details on how scum role can have town flavor and town utility and still be a scum role.

Just an example because you mentioned SU2 like all the time in that game




Okay NicoRobin is scum, I'm satisfied

Yeah, I was already having similair feelings about that stuff, i just couldnt quite place it where from.

[THE MEME MEN]

Well for that matter i hope my pinball machine survives , been trying to fix it all night yesterday

Dude LH you have a real pinball machine? That's dope man! I hope you get it working soon.



It's almost like this is an incredibly obvious crumb that I don't want people to miss because

I want someone to fix our pinball machine mechanically in this game tonight

. Maybe your ability isn't "fix pinball machine". Maybe it's just "fix gadget" or something. That's fine. Come on over!

It's almost like I'm explicitly saying our role has a broken pinball machine because there's so much noise in this game I'm worried whoever can fix our pinball machine might have just replaced in/read less than half the thread.

/subtlecrumbing

Oh yeah this is going on too huh VOTE: no lynch - Shiro

-RH

[Jingle]

Large 214, read it

Would like to point out, having just read this, that the difference between the disloyal scum claiming loyal and mastina claiming loyal as disloyal would be that disloyal fruit vendor could potentially fake an innocent on a partner. Disloyal gladiator could not. Therefore, this comparison is inherently flawed.

Like, mastina claiming loyal as a disloyal scum gladiator would be borderline game throwing because not only would she not be able to survive to endgame, but she would in fact STILL NECESSARILY be clearing townies.

[Jingle]

VOTE: mastina

Retracting townread or policy lynch?

[Firebringer]

VOTE: mastina

Retracting townread or policy lynch?

Policy

[Jingle]

S'what I thought.

I can't say I expected more, but dammit man you let grudges get in the way too often.

Also, if you give me a gun and don't lynch mastina I'll shoot NR for you.