Mini 2032: TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited [over]

[skitter30]

i mean, rc's read is first and foremost (and probably takes precedence over everything else, honestly), but apart from that i guess i would call it more of a relative thing - that is, i feel like a lot of people are playing scummy this game, even people who i doubt are actually scum (like porkens and to a lesser extent shoshin)

by the way, you keep pointing out how passive i'm being as if it's something that you don't expect, which is strange to me, because that's basically been all my towngame has been recently (much to my chagrin as i've mentioned multiple times in dead threads of recent games).

i think your view of me might be being falsely shaped by your experience with that other, more aggressive player.

yeah so i guess that's why i'm a little stuck - my biggest townread atm is probs shoshin but we have major playstyle differences and it's throwing me off and then porkens and that's mainly on associatives and not really for anything he's done

and i don't really townread anyone else even though at least 2 of {you/gamma/kokichi/nos} are town

i guess on some level i want you to be town + scumhunting to help me sort through this

i really haven't played a towngame with you-you since february i'm pretty sure

i think the bolded is a fair point too

link me a recent towngame that you think is representative of this playstyle?

[northsidegal]

link me a recent towngame that you think is representative of this playstyle?

compare the first few posts of my iso here with the last few, and then realize that got cut short night one

and also look at my reads that game to see how amazing i am of course (you might need a reminder after my earlier play this game)

[skitter30]

hmmm ok

that makes me feel slightly better ( + the bolded above)

and i guess there's also a slight element of bop that's bothering me too - you were wrong on irrel and reck and mentioned gamma like twice (really the only place you talked about him was 994 wherein you wanted to lynch irrel and reck over him)

(also i think gammagooey's associatives are slightly partner-y - specifically 568)

why aren't you really considering scum!gammaemerald?

[northsidegal]

i am, but in some sense he's the "paranoia read" that i was talking about. i thought rc was towny and that's pretty much the only source of my townread on the slot. my current view is that kokichi and nos make the most sense, but if kokichi turns out to be town then gamma's scum equity goes up a lot (although in that case i think nos would still be a stronger scumread)

[Nosferatu]

@nosferatu, thoughts on kokichi needing to die before tomorrow?

why can't we kill him tomorrow

[Gamma Emerald]

@nosferatu, thoughts on kokichi needing to die before tomorrow?

why can't we kill him tomorrow

Why do you think he needs to die tomorrow? You’re scumreading me and nsg right?

[Gamma Emerald]

By tomorrow I mean at all

[Porkens]

why do people try to politic scumreads like this?

[Gamma Emerald]

why do people try to politic scumreads like this?

What is this about?

[Nosferatu]

Why do you think he needs to die tomorrow? You’re scumreading me and nsg right?

he's hated so he can't be in lylo

i infinitely want either one of you mroe than town kokichi

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you think he needs to die tomorrow? You’re scumreading me and nsg right?

he's hated so he can't be in lylo

i infinitely want either one of you mroe than town kokichi

But a mislynch today makes tomorrow lylo
I am just baffled over this seeming oversight, it feels like you’re scumslipping here

[xyzzy]

this is xyzzy, your moderator, your best friend, and your horse. have I already done horse? I feel like I've already done horse.

votecount 4.03

2 players voting for Gamma Emerald (Kokichi Oma, Nosferatu)
2 players voting for Nosferatu (northsidegal, Gamma Emerald)
2 player voting for Kokichi Oma (Shoshin, Porkens)
1 player voting for northsidegal (skitter30)

0 players not voting for lynch

with 7 votes, it takes 4 to lynch.

2 players voting for Shoshin for Fantasy Gachapon (Shoshin, Porkens)
1 player voting for skitter30 for Fantasy Gachapon (skitter30)

4 players not voting for Fantasy Gachapon (Nosferatu, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal, Kokichi Oma)

day 4 will end in (expired on 2018-10-27 08:15:00).

mod notes:

[Kokichi Oma]

Are we going to lynch mafia or no

[Shoshin]

Are we going to lynch mafia or no

What's your read on Nos? Skitter? Pork?

[Shoshin]

Nos, why are you so sure Koki is town?

[Shoshin]

Koki, why aren't you bothered by how strongly Nos townreads you?

[Kokichi Oma]

I've already outed who I think both scum are and who I think is scummy besides that. So no

[Shoshin]

xRECKONERx

skitter30

northsidegal

Kokichi Oma

Gamma Emerald
Porkens

Creature

Shoshin

i guess this is where i am now?

VOTE: gamma

Please explain how you went from townreading Gamma and scumreading Koki to scumreading Gamma and townreading Koki. What changed?

[Shoshin]

@Koki

You thought it was opportunistic of Gamma to change his mind about you. But why aren't you similarly concerned about the way Nos changed his reads in the span of 70 posts?

[Shoshin]

xRECKONERx

skitter30

northsidegal

Kokichi Oma

Gamma Emerald
Porkens

Creature

Shoshin

i guess this is where i am now?

Sorry for being gone, had company (actually, the dearly departed Gammagooey) at my house all weekend!

Looking back at the shit with RC D1 I feel like Gammagooey's interactions w/ RC could easily be Gamma trying to distance from RC's meltdown while also getting in my good graces by white knighting me to an extent

I've played a shitload of games with Gamma and I think he'd know that's the best way to get me sedated and off his trail?

Couple that with Varsoon's list which potentially was breadcrumbing RB targets and I think I wanna VOTE: Gamma Emerald today

VOTE: gamma

I don't understand how Nos chooses to follow Reck (a Nos scumread) onto Gamma (a Nos townread) instead of voting Kokichi (a Nos scumread)... what's the underlying thought process that leads to this?

[Shoshin]

gatchapon vote:

kokichi

And then decides that Kokichi is his strongest townread?

WTF?

[skitter30]

i really haven't played a towngame with you-you since february i'm pretty sure

i forgot about brass's pick your poison; that was the last game i'm pretty sure

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@nosferatu, thoughts on kokichi needing to die before tomorrow?

why can't we kill him tomorrow

... because the hated modifier doesn't fall off?

why would you want him in lylo?

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i'm feeling kinda better about nsg

i don't really think kokichi is scum tbh but i think he does need to be pl'd. although i guess it doesn't really matter. if we pl him today and he's town we need to lynch scum tomorrow or we lose. if we don't lynch him today we need to lynch scum today or we lose. basically i don't think the order matters so much i guess.

also i think kokichi's utter ambivalence about gammagooey getting lynched day1 is +town (he said something along the lines of 'let's lynch gamma over a no-lynch today')

i don't really particularly think he's flipping scum

kinda think nos is scum tbh

[Shoshin]

Why is Nos scum, Skitter?

[skitter30]

i think everyone else is more townie and i don't have any reason to townread nos

[Shoshin]

Who is his partner is Koki is town?