A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[jjh927]

If mastina had gone "No, I don't want you to look at my role that I have already claimed publicly" then it would be a scumclaim

[jjh927]

But yeah, Vecna. Honestly, I'm convinced I was the NK because I was going into night actually expecting a no-kill because of the combination of how hard I'd baited NR, how much I scumread her, and the kind of person she is

[Varsoon]

@JJH: Is it possible any other configuration of scum in this setup would've noticed that and tried to kill you in order to implicate Nico?

[Vecna]

I really cannot think of a scumteam in this setup that would actually let NR dictate the NK here lol.

Also, they really have to deal with Mastina and the clears she's generating. Unless ofcourse.....yeah.

[jjh927]

@JJH: Is it possible any other configuration of scum in this setup would've noticed that and tried to kill you in order to implicate Nico?

No, because they wouldn't have known I was deathproof and if they wanted to implicate NicoRobin, the best way to do that is to leave the guy deathtunneling her alive

[Vecna]

So Nico is lying, and Porkens can back me up here.

I was told, "Nico is demanding your role; you have 48 hours to comply, or she becomes a triple voter for you."

She CAN'T have a result yet. I've allowed it, so she will get one, but she doesn't have one RIGHT NOW.

I'm not voting her though, because I am 100% positive she's just town fakeclaiming. This is PRECISELY the kind of stunt she'd pull.

Also, pizza is delicious.

So youre not a role-cop, but Mastina got a demand to show her your role?

These claims are getting wilder and wilder

[Varsoon]

Wouldn't it look worse if the guy who was deathtunneling her died?
/shrugs
Regardless
I don't think it's a good look for Nico any way you come at it, but
What now?

[jjh927]

I mean, I want to run NicoRobin up and force mastina to do the thing even though she thinks NR is town for some reason

[Vecna]

Scum day chat in combination with how shit went down would really explain a lot here.

Or maybe its just good ole Vecna being a human, and seeing conspiracy where its a good old case of coincidence.

Legion kicks ass fyi

[jjh927]

Wouldn't it look worse if the guy who was deathtunneling her died?

Also, I don't think it would? Most people don't pay that much attention to the dead and the arguments normally get shrugged off by calling wifom

[Varsoon]

^ That's why I'm asking if there's a configuration of scum that would actually rely on that.

[Vecna]

Guys, my previous musing wasnt just random fyi. Dont get too stuck in deep.

[NicoRobin]

Porkens rejected the thing and so NR got the triple vote

Well, now that the cat is out of the bag, that's why I scumread him. Given the consequences of rejection, town have no reason to reject. The only reason to reject is if the pros outweighed the cons ie. that giving up his role would get him lynched for sure.

[Varsoon]

If I was a strong town role and I got a random thing asking me to reveal my role to someone I don't know, I'd say no.

[Varsoon]

Though Mastina claimed it does say it's from you, so eh?
I still would say no if I didn't trust you.

[Vecna]

Porkens rejected the thing and so NR got the triple vote

Well, now that the cat is out of the bag, that's why I scumread him. Given the consequences of rejection, town have no reason to reject. The only reason to reject is if the pros outweighed the cons ie. that giving up his role would get him lynched for sure.

So what is it, tracking or role cop?

[Vecna]

And did you get the same message on Mastina as you received from Porkens?

We need details, accurate ones. Stop being dodgy or youre getting lynched.

[jjh927]

I think she's a rolecop but she's trying as much nonsense as possible so that people go "She wouldn't do this as scum"

[NicoRobin]

Porkens rejected the thing and so NR got the triple vote

Well, now that the cat is out of the bag, that's why I scumread him. Given the consequences of rejection, town have no reason to reject. The only reason to reject is if the pros outweighed the cons ie. that giving up his role would get him lynched for sure.

So what is it, tracking or role cop?

That's it?

No reaction towards my reason for scumreading him?

[Vecna]

Ive scumread Porkens the entire game, that is not what were discussing here.

Answers

[Varsoon]

Yeah I literally came into the game with a vote on Porkens and have been doubtcasting him since then.
Porkens doesn't play the game as scum. Heck, he hardly plays the game as town.

[jjh927]

Oh hey it's just occurred to me that Nico submits her action at night and Mastina got the thing which means she can't have been blocked in any way

[Varsoon]

Porkens not giving you a yes on your role is more indicative that Porkens was not even around to pick up the PM for 48 hours instead of Porkens actually declining it for alignment-related reasons, imo.

[Varsoon]

Oh hey it's just occurred to me that Nico submits her action at night and Mastina got the thing which means she can't have been blocked in any way

ayyyyy

[NicoRobin]

I'm a tracker.