Mini 2032: TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited [over]

[skitter30]

no, i don't know this

you said you got switcheroo like day2 but are being incredibly vague as to whether or not you've used it

and there's really no way i can predict that you'd still have it and use it several nights in the future (ie they only get it after i die and idk when that'll happen and idk if yo'll have used it in the interim)

[Shoshin]

I was very clear yesterday that I had used it...

[Shoshin]

this is xyzzy, your moderator, your best friend, and your platonic life partner. we're just, like, friends and stuff!

votecount 1.21

7 players voting for Gammagooey (skitter30, SirCakez, Irrelephant11, Creature, Nosferatu, Porkens, Kokichi Oma)
2 players voting for Irrelephant11 (northsidegal, Varsoon)
2 players voting for Gamma Emerald (xRECKONERx, xRECKONERx)
1 player voting for Varsoon (Shoshin)
1 player voting for Porkens (Gammagooey)
1 player voting for xRECKONERx (Gamma Emerald)

0 players not voting for lynch

with 14 votes, it takes 8 to lynch.

4 players voting for Shoshin for Fantasy Gachapon (Irrelephant11, Gammagooey, skitter30, Gamma Emerald)
2 players voting for xRECKONERx for Fantasy Gachapon (Varsoon, xRECKONERx)
1 player voting for Kokichi Oma for Fantasy Gachapon (Kokichi Oma)
1 player voting for Gamma Emerald for Fantasy Gachapon (Shoshin)

5 players not voting for Fantasy Gachapon (northsidegal, Porkens, Nosferatu, Creature, SirCakez)

the current day will end in (expired on 2018-09-24 17:09:00)

mod notes:

UNVOTE:

kokichi did you think you were casting the hammer vote?

This feels like a pretty blatant attempt to derail a wagon on scum at L-1 onto town Kokichi. Please explain your thought process.

[skitter30]

no, i wasn't sure if you had used it or if you were talking in hypotheticals (if i had used it i could do ... )

i even asked you if you could clarify if you could die in the near future and you ignored me; i said it was kinda important/helpful for me to know that

and if you had used it you were nk'able in which case giving it to you could end up being a waste if we like die on the same night or something. or die the night after me

[skitter30]

although i hadn't thought to ask if the person would know they'd get the thing (it didn't occur to me to ask till nos said that with the gold)

in which case they should prob know; i have to ask the mod

[skitter30]

This feels like a pretty blatant attempt to derail a wagon on scum at L-1 onto town Kokichi. Please explain your thought process.

a) the wagon was moving fairly fast at the end of the day and when wagons move with little resistance i'm suspicious; a whole bunch of votes got piled on and i wasn't ready for the day to end yet

b) i wasn't sure if kokichi knew he was hammering or not (if yes that was an awful vote and i wanted to talk about it more)

[Gamma Emerald]

about ready to park my vote on gamma again

my role gives extra gold to a targeted person on the list,

ive only used it 2 times, on kokichi, and porkens, n3, n4

I don’t trust those selections at all tbh

[Shoshin]

It looks like you were trying to indirectly suggest that Gammagooey was town... by shifting attention to Kokichi...

What was your read of Gammagooey at the time?

[Shoshin]

Skitter, what's the harm in saying who you targeted last night? I really don't understand the issue there when you have another chance to use your role tonight...

[skitter30]

although i hadn't thought to ask if the person would know they'd get the thing (it didn't occur to me to ask till nos said that with the gold)

in which case they should prob know; i have to ask the mod

ok they'll find out if they got the thing if i die so i don't see much reason to state it in thread rn

[skitter30]

It looks like you were trying to indirectly suggest that Gammagooey was town... by shifting attention to Kokichi...

What was your read of Gammagooey at the time?

honestly i dont' remember; i'd have to go back and check my posts

i remember thinking the vig claim was slightly +town
i remember thinking the gamestate loosely pointed to town!gammagooey by how fast the back end of that wagon built

i don't remember what i thought of him at the time tbh

[Shoshin]

When did he claim vig?

[Shoshin]

I'm going to just go ahead and claim

I'm Jess the Beheader, and I've got a one-shot vig (ability name is Soulbound Axe). flavor is that I've got a magic axe and am a pro wrestler in the midworld wrestling foundation.

I was planning on shooting Porkens in the face tonight if he didn't get lynched, and I still think that Porkens+Cakez make the most sense as part of the scumteam given how they've played around each other and individually - assuming 3 scum I'd guess the last is somewhere in skitter/Irrelephant/GE. Gemerald I don't think is going to post enough by the end of today for me to have a solid read on him, but I'll be reading over Irrel/skitter again by the end of today (real-life day) to try to explain my feelings on them a little better.

This was after you unvoted, Skitter.

[skitter30]

Skitter, what's the harm in saying who you targeted last night? I really don't understand the issue there when you have another chance to use your role tonight...

cuz i'm apparently a very paranoid person

eh whatever i targeted you

you were the person i townread most yesterday and i got annoyed playing guessing games wrt whether or not you had used switcheroo yet given how vague you were being wrt gacha items and when you would die and i didn't townread anyone else enough really

if you do something dumb like try to lynch me today to get it i'll prob rescind my townread on you

[skitter30]

I'm going to just go ahead and claim

I'm Jess the Beheader, and I've got a one-shot vig (ability name is Soulbound Axe). flavor is that I've got a magic axe and am a pro wrestler in the midworld wrestling foundation.

I was planning on shooting Porkens in the face tonight if he didn't get lynched, and I still think that Porkens+Cakez make the most sense as part of the scumteam given how they've played around each other and individually - assuming 3 scum I'd guess the last is somewhere in skitter/Irrelephant/GE. Gemerald I don't think is going to post enough by the end of today for me to have a solid read on him, but I'll be reading over Irrel/skitter again by the end of today (real-life day) to try to explain my feelings on them a little better.

This was after you unvoted, Skitter.

i don't remember the ordering of the end fo day1 super well

i remember disliking the l1 vote
i remember thinking the fast wagon was town indicative
i rmember thinking he should have a night to prove the claim

i don't know the order those things happened in offhand

[skitter30]

does your action count as a targetable action?

I have to target them so I suppose yeah but I don't know for sure.

the setup of your role sounds kinda similar to mine (ie choose someone at night and the next night they may get things)

but the details are different which is a little surprisng to me

namely:

a) you don't know if you have a targetable action (my PM was pretty clear in saying i don't)
b) your target doesn't know if they recieve it

[Porkens]

I hate role spec and tile lies

[Shoshin]

Pork, what did you do last night?

[northsidegal]

haven't spent any gold, pretty sure i haven't had enough to actually buy anything. don't have any night actions to claim

my current poe is two in {gamma, nosferatu, shoshin}, with porkens and skitter as town

porkens is a player who despite being lynchbait-y i'm actually pretty sure that i can read now, having had a bit of time and experimentation so to speak (only vaguely sure as to how much i can talk about this so you get a vague answer for now). for the most part i would say that nosferatu's assessment was pretty accurate - porkens is probably one of the only players i know who i would actually say "openwolfs" as scum (i think a lot of people use that term pretty loosely but in this case i think it applies).

even beyond my own read on him, porkens neighborized me and creature night 2, and then creature died night 3. it seems somewhat unlikely to be that scum would spend gold like that only to end up killing a member of the neighborhood, so that solidifies my townread there.

for skitter it's mostly a matter of a townread and a comparison to the people who are left. on an individual level i think skitter has asked a lot of pretty good questions / had some pretty good thoughts this game that i think are more likely to come from town, but even further, when i start to consider skitter not being town i have to ask myself "well then who the hell is town?" because i really don't think nosferatu is town, my townread of RC is pretty outdated at this point, and shoshin keeps playing really weirdly in this way that makes me question if my expectations are off or if i really am seeing something different.

although to be fair i think gamma/nos is more likely than any combination involving shoshin.

{porkens, skitter}
{shoshin}
{gamma, nos}

[northsidegal]

shoshin, could you be a bit more clear about your reads / is there some reason you aren't?

[Gamma Emerald]

I only used gold last night to protect my target because I was salty after Creature died

[Porkens]

Pork, what did you do last night?

I did nothing

[Shoshin]

The scum are NSG & Skitter.

[skitter30]

The scum are NSG & Skitter.

Uh huh, do tell

I also think that you should claim

I also thinj nsg and porkens should claim

I also think everyone should flavor claim

[skitter30]

, and shoshin keeps playing really weirdly in this way that makes me question if my expectations are off or if i really am seeing something different.

Elaborate?