Witches' Halloween Ball [Game Over]

[Firebringer]

We absolutely can control people's pairings. If you pair out of order, you die via lynch. Prerogative of the town. It takes two to tango, which means if you pair out of order, then two people agreed to do awful thing and that icnreases the odds at least one of you is scum.

So yeah, death for anyone who pairs early or pairs outside plan.

Good luck with that

[Firebringer]

oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?

Alt

[Lady Lambdadelta]

oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?

Alt

Then Karmeleon is probably scum.

[Firebringer]

SaHa tentatively town for derping so much.

Firebringer is ??? and remains there.

Shortaru... join date+posting is very much inline. Will likely be easy to read as things go.

You can put me as scum.
I am putting you as scum too!

Let’s be scum buddies LLD

[Karmeleon]

oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?

Pretty sure hydras are not allowed

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We absolutely can control people's pairings. If you pair out of order, you die via lynch. Prerogative of the town. It takes two to tango, which means if you pair out of order, then two people agreed to do awful thing and that icnreases the odds at least one of you is scum.

So yeah, death for anyone who pairs early or pairs outside plan.

Good luck with that

It really will not be hard.

I promise if you pair out of order or early to spite us we will lynch you because it's anti-town. I don't care if you decide to do it as town as some kind of "message that yuo can't control people"

The fact is you don't need to flip mafia to be working for the scum.

[Karmeleon]

oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?

Alt

Then Karmeleon is probably scum.

Not all alts rand scum

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SaHa tentatively town for derping so much.

Firebringer is ??? and remains there.

Shortaru... join date+posting is very much inline. Will likely be easy to read as things go.

You can put me as scum.
I am putting you as scum too!

Let’s be scum buddies LLD

Understood.

[Firebringer]

It really will not be hard.

I promise if you pair out of order or early to spite us we will lynch you because it's anti-town. I don't care if you decide to do it as town as some kind of "message that yuo can't control people"

The fact is you don't need to flip mafia to be working for the scum.

Ur not controlling me

Ur not controlling anyone.

I ain’t ur sub

I don’t particularly care about being anti town and you know that so why we having this discussion, do you really think YOU can intimidate me?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?

Pretty sure hydras are not allowed

That... completely dodges the point in a weird way that doesn't feel town but I am uncertain is alignment indicative?

oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?

Alt

Then Karmeleon is probably scum.

Not all alts rand scum

This one on the other hand is scummy as a reaction, so we're starting to get preponderance of evidence.

[Moment]

I've been looking over some of the old dances since my /in, and wow, this game is different. Cool, though!

Is that so? From what I remember it seems relatively similar. What's different?

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But im most likely never gonna be obvtown nor in a "unequestionably TvT" pairing so I figured why not.

I just survived to endgame as scum, that doesnt happen to someone "easy to read"

Asking someone to dance who hasn't even posted yet is a questionable decision regardless of whether or not you meet the criteria for some optimal pairing. What about thinking you won't be widely townread leads to the conclusion of immediately asking someone to dance? Even further, I wouldn't take that last game as a real example of anything - from memory, you were pretty widely townread in Minuet's Trio and Forgotten Hourglass.

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I'm leaning Gamma Emerald and Sakura scum for now. It's slightly bothering me that people aren't seeming to take this seriously - even if you don't care about winning, you don't have to sabotage everyone else's chances of winning.

[shortaru]

Can someone ever be excited about randing scum?

It's situational.

In person, randing Mafia is fun. Here, I'd be terrified because I'm not acclimated to the format yet.

Why do you dislike being mafia?

[Firebringer]

I actually agree with LLD that Karmeleon is scum but she is prolly bussing

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It really will not be hard.

I promise if you pair out of order or early to spite us we will lynch you because it's anti-town. I don't care if you decide to do it as town as some kind of "message that yuo can't control people"

The fact is you don't need to flip mafia to be working for the scum.

Ur not controlling me

Ur not controlling anyone.

I ain’t ur sub

I don’t particularly care about being anti town and you know that so why we having this discussion, do you really think YOU can intimidate me?

Two things

1) I'm telling you what will happen when you decide to do this. Your actions are your own, just know they'll have consequences.

2) I might not be in control, but I've got a feeling enough people will agree with not just me, but the confirmed town who seems to be on the same wavelength as I do.

So....

[Firebringer]

I already told you good luck with it LLD, everything else you try saying is just you trying to assert some makeshift power you hold.

Pretty sure ur scum too rn

[Karmeleon]

Can someone ever be excited about randing scum?

It's situational.

In person, randing Mafia is fun. Here, I'd be terrified because I'm not acclimated to the format yet.

Why do you dislike being mafia?

It's not that I dislike being mafia, but I don't see someone being more excited to play as scum than as town. Someone new, for example, can overestimate town scumhunting skills.

[Karmeleon]

It's slightly bothering me that people aren't seeming to take this seriously - even if you don't care about winning, you don't have to sabotage everyone else's chances of winning.

Who's trying to sabotage here?

[shortaru]

I've been looking over some of the old dances since my /in, and wow, this game is different. Cool, though!

Is that so? From what I remember it seems relatively similar. What's different?

Several lynches per day, only 1 night kill, roster of all lovers, lynches not resetting deadline, etc.

These rules are nothing like the way I'm used to playing.

[Gamma Emerald]

oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?

Alt

Then Karmeleon is probably scum.

Not all alts rand scum

This doesn’t feel right to me. He seems to be trying to subvert the argument.

[Firebringer]

Does this game have four or three scum, I forgot

[Moment]

Then we pair the remaining groups wiht the following values in mind:

Most townie remaining Lady -> Least Townie remaining Gent

by definition it'll create some TvT pairings but I think more importantly, it allows for us to put high trust targets with low trust targets. I also considered doing like 3 bad with bads for them to agree to die, but basically we need to have pairings where we can read them while also relying that there is a solid town person able to leave the dance if necessary.

I don't entirely understand this. What is the benefit of having it such that people can leave the dance? Wouldn't it be better to simply have the least townread people pair together and lynch them to kill two birds with one stone, so to speak? Killing a townread player along with a scummier player seems plainly suboptimal compared to the alternative.

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People, be less boring

This post, plus other earlier posts reads like someone who drew scum and is really fucking excited about it. Anyone know if this player hates to be scum or anything that would preclude this tone read?

Why drew scum and is excited over simply being excited in general?

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DVa is town

Why? I don't find anything particularly towny about the throwing out of all of those early reads.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I already told you good luck with it LLD, everything else you try saying is just you trying to assert some makeshift power you hold.

Pretty sure ur scum too rn

Yeah you keep saying that.

It's interesting you keep saying it... to me.

If you really thought or cared I was scum I presume you'd be trying to convince others who might town read me.

Instead of wasting your breath on me.

I wonder if I just found two scum and this game is that easy.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm probably not. You're a pretty big VI.

But it is a weird motivational thing....

[Firebringer]

It’s 3

So scum team is LLD, Karmelon and [placeholder]

[Karmeleon]

I wonder if I just found two scum and this game is that easy.

I don't think you found any

[shortaru]

oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?

Pretty sure hydras are not allowed

That... completely dodges the point in a weird way that doesn't feel town but I am uncertain is alignment indicative?

oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?

Alt

Then Karmeleon is probably scum.

Not all alts rand scum

This one on the other hand is scummy as a reaction, so we're starting to get preponderance of evidence.

I agree with this post.

Karma was looking kinda dodgy, there.