Witches' Halloween Ball [Game Over]

[Karmeleon]

I'm reading men better than women. Maybe that's just the opposite gender thing.

[Gamma Emerald]

On one hand I'm happy that I have townreads
on the other I'm annoyed it's all ladies because the guys can't town tell to save there god dam life.

Hmm

[Gamma Emerald]

What's your read on Gamma Emerald?

Before I answer why did you ask me about gamma out of everyone.

I think I like this question

[Malakittens]

@maria I obv town really quickly once I start posting actual solid serious content so

[Brian Skies]

by definition it'll create some TvT pairings but I think more importantly, it allows for us to put high trust targets with low trust targets. I also considered doing like 3 bad with bads for them to agree to die, but basically we need to have pairings where we can read them while also relying that there is a solid town person able to leave the dance if necessary.

Is it too early to volunteer as tribute?

[shortaru]

@maria I obv town really quickly once I start posting actual solid serious content so

... says the "Most Cunning Manipulator".

[Dunnstral]

Moment
Lady Lambdadelta
DVa
Firebringer
Karmeleon

I think this group is all town at this point

Also leaning town on shortaru at this point

Here is where I'm leaning scum:
Sakura Hana
Brian Skies

[Brian Skies]

That discredit!

To be fair, I'm just jealous because I was hoping to use that against Mala later.

[Gamma Emerald]

That discredit!

To be fair, I'm just jealous because I was hoping to use that against Mala later.

...
I’m not a fan of Brian up to this point.

[shortaru]

On one hand I'm happy that I have townreads
on the other I'm annoyed it's all ladies because the guys can't town tell to save there god dam life.

Hmm

Why hmm?

[Dunnstral]

Moment
Lady Lambdadelta
DVa
Firebringer
Karmeleon

Moment engaging with the discussion and having a lot to say is very typical of town him, I'm going to treat him as easy to read because from my experience when he's scum you can pretty much tell and he doesn't get as involved, where town looks like this
Lady Lambdadelta has been engaged in a towny way, maybe I'm underestimating her scum game here? She looks like town to me right now
DVa had a really towny tone when I read her, I might need to see more here actually to draw a solid conclusion, still leaning town here anyway
Firebringer plays like this as town all the time, whereas I think he plays differently when he's scum, less brazen and annoying
Karmeleon said some things that other people started talking about, I think the way he reacted to that felt genuine in a way where it was coming from town, just a little awkward

[MariaR]

Dunn's list isn't bad. I mostly agree minus fire/bri

[MariaR]

@maria I obv town really quickly once I start posting actual solid serious content so

Convenient

[Dunnstral]

@maria I obv town really quickly once I start posting actual solid serious content so

What type of content are you posting right now?

[Sakura Hana]

I love how people keep helping me prove my point that i was making to RC.

[Sakura Hana]

Also as far as I remember troll FB is town FB so FB is town.

[Dunnstral]

I love how people keep helping me prove my point that i was making to RC.

You weren't trying to make a point, you were trying to justify your early proposal to kokichi to him

[Sakura Hana]

I love how people keep helping me prove my point that i was making to RC.

You weren't trying to make a point, you were trying to justify your early proposal to kokichi to him

100% sure that's not exactly how that conversation went, i justified my early vote to kokichi with my point which RC argued against and now you're helping me prove said point.

[Sakura Hana]

*early dance

[Dunnstral]

Why did you pick Kokichi?

[Sakura Hana]

Why did you pick Kokichi?

I had decided that i'd do that since he in'd for this because he's a cool person i like playing with.

[Brian Skies]

Implicit in your argument is presumption that your reads will be wrong and that a player that you consider strongly town will be scum, and thus you should play to that expectation. To that I would say that I don't think it makes sense to begin from the idea that your reads are wrong - it makes more sense to begin with lynching your scumreads. Should that fail, then there may be cause for concern and at that point it would be time to begin looking in the pairs previously more townread.

Beginning with trying to lynch both the "scummy scum" and the "towny scum" by pairing them together seems destined to simply sacrifice a townier player for every scummier player we lynch.

Of course, this is quite abstract and a level removed from the actual people pairing together and playing the game, but on a theory level I don't think it's correct.

The only thing I agree with you on is the bolded part.

I also feel like you're nitpicking on one questionable aspect because you're missing the greater context of what she's proposing.

[shortaru]

RadiantCowbells - duh
Gamma Emerald - I think town?
Dunnstral - scummy
Karmeleon - scummy

MariaR - towny, would dance
DVa - scummy, doesn't feel like genuine posting
Moment - towny, would dance
Sakura Hana - towny would dance (but alas, she has her sights elsewhere)
Firebringer - I can't get a read on this... everything in me screams scum, but wtf would scum be so blatant for?
Lady Lambdadelta - scummy

[Dunnstral]

I don't explain town reads, it's anti town.

Wait is this true or theory?

theory

[Sakura Hana]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p8126782
Might have influenced it.