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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:34 pm

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Wiki says all revealed innocent children would be "immediately" dayvigged. Not on claim but on reveal.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:40 pm

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In post 46, Micc wrote:I wouldn't call compulsive child killer verifiable at all. And post 8 pretty antitown in mindset. I say we wagon shortaru.
Wait, do you really think he accidentally showed his true face for a moment?

It's possible that he's scum pretending to be town messing around, but I'm not feeling that either.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:44 pm

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In post 46, Micc wrote:I wouldn't call compulsive child killer verifiable at all. And post 8 pretty antitown in mindset. I say we wagon shortaru.

predit: you might want to read it again. that's not how compulsive child killer is meant to work afaik
What happens if an IC is revealed later on and they immediately get dayvigged by shortaru? Would that not be verification?
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:45 pm

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Hmm never mind I just looked at the role list and there's a one-shot mafia dayvig.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:01 pm

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It's unlikely an IC is in the game, but if you're worried about that: shortaru, can you post
kill: shortaru
in-thread?
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:02 pm

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In post 49, Micc wrote:does your role PM indicate how people fake revealing as IC are handled? 45 seems to indicate you would still day vig them.
It does not, but that's a strange assumption.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:03 pm

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In post 54, Bicephalous Bob wrote:It's unlikely an IC is in the game, but if you're worried about that: shortaru, can you post
kill: shortaru
in-thread?
kill: shortaru

And if self-vig is not allowed:

kill: Bicephelous Bob


Anymore questions?
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:05 pm

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In post 56, shortaru wrote:
In post 54, Bicephalous Bob wrote:It's unlikely an IC is in the game, but if you're worried about that: shortaru, can you post
kill: shortaru
in-thread?
kill: shortaru

And if self-vig is not allowed:

kill: Bicephelous Bob


Anymore questions?
Oops:

Kill: Bicephalous Bob


In case there's concern about misspell shenanigans.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:06 pm

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In post 51, Bicephalous Bob wrote:
In post 46, Micc wrote:I wouldn't call compulsive child killer verifiable at all. And post 8 pretty antitown in mindset. I say we wagon shortaru.
Wait, do you really think he accidentally showed his true face for a moment?

It's possible that he's scum pretending to be town messing around, but I'm not feeling that either.
idk maybe. I know my first thought would have been "I hope he's reaction testing" not "I hope he just got himself killed cause he deserves it". I think its more worthy of a wagon than anything else I've seen so far.
In post 52, Simeon wrote:
In post 46, Micc wrote:I wouldn't call compulsive child killer verifiable at all. And post 8 pretty antitown in mindset. I say we wagon shortaru.

predit: you might want to read it again. that's not how compulsive child killer is meant to work afaik
What happens if an IC is revealed later on and they immediately get dayvigged by shortaru? Would that not be verification?
That's the one way to verify the child killer that I can think of without killing them. I don't think it's a particularly good solution for obvious reasons. I also don't know what a mafia day vig has to do with anything.
In post 55, shortaru wrote:
In post 49, Micc wrote:does your role PM indicate how people fake revealing as IC are handled? 45 seems to indicate you would still day vig them.
It does not, but that's a strange assumption.
I mean, that's how I took your post 45 so I'm glad you see why I though it was strange.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:07 pm

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do those day vig shots mean you are retracting your earlier claim?
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:11 pm

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In post 59, Micc wrote:do those day vig shots mean you are retracting your earlier claim?
Nope. They mean I'm addressing concerns about my claim.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:14 pm

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In post 58, Micc wrote:I mean, that's how I took your post 45 so I'm glad you see why I though it was strange.
Considering I kill children compulsively, I doubt I even have to submit the command.

I think the mod will likely kill it upon reveal.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:19 pm

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In post 58, Micc wrote:I know my first thought would have been "I hope he's reaction testing" not "I hope he just got himself killed cause he deserves it".
Its true, though.

I get spiteful when people undermine what I'm trying to do.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:14 pm

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I guess that's the real question then. What are you trying to do?
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:17 pm

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In post 63, Micc wrote:I guess that's the real question then. What are you trying to do?
Avoid killing the IC.

Which, if that claim has been real, would have been resoundingly undermined.

Is this not basic?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:19 pm

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In post 46, Micc wrote:I wouldn't call compulsive child killer verifiable at all. And post 8 pretty antitown in mindset. I say we wagon shortaru.

predit: you might want to read it again. that's not how compulsive child killer is meant to work afaik
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:22 pm

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In post 54, Bicephalous Bob wrote:It's unlikely an IC is in the game, but if you're worried about that: shortaru, can you post
kill: shortaru
in-thread?
I don’t like this, see? Feels a bit twisted in motivation.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:24 pm

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In post 59, Micc wrote:do those day vig shots mean you are retracting your earlier claim?
VOTE: Micc

I mean, the post where I put in the requested kill order (and a backup in case there were questions) has the post that asked me to do that very thing quoted right in it.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:26 pm

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In post 66, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 54, Bicephalous Bob wrote:It's unlikely an IC is in the game, but if you're worried about that: shortaru, can you post
kill: shortaru
in-thread?
I don’t like this, see? Feels a bit twisted in motivation.
VOTE: Bicephalous Bob
Not as twisted as Micc's specious push.

Bob was preempting the possibility of me being a fake-claiming Mafia dayvig. I got why he wanted me to do that.

Micc acting like he didn't understand my kill order, however... that makes no sense at all.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:13 pm

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no I was just actually lost.

the purpose of bob's post 54 went completely over my head specifically because I know how childkiller works and the idea of a mafia day vig using it as a fake claim after they actively shoot an IC claim never crossed my mind. I didn't even realize the dayvig shots were by request and not of his own making.

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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:33 pm

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I guess that logic works. Don’t think I’m gonna let that go forever, though, see? I’ll keep it in mind.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:37 pm

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In post 69, Micc wrote:no I was just actually lost.

the purpose of bob's post 54 went completely over my head specifically because I know how childkiller works and the idea of a mafia day vig using it as a fake claim after they actively shoot an IC claim never crossed my mind. I didn't even realize the dayvig shots were by request and not of his own making.

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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:46 pm

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Didnt read the past 10 posts but mic is being opportunistic on page 2
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:53 pm

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Maybe you should read the past ten posts.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:07 pm

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In post 72, Maruchan wrote:Didnt read the past 10 posts but mic is being opportunistic on page 2
How do ya even skip 10 measly posts?
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