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shortaru · Post Post #125 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:11 pm

In post 121, ThoseInCharge wrote:I'm also trying to evaluate FFT's intentions here.

I think they think they're pushing me.

*shrug*

ThoseInCharge · Post Post #126 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:15 pm

In post 116, shortaru wrote:
In post 95, ThoseInCharge wrote:Hey Wisdom, tell me more about your Gamma townread?
Do you really expect that to happen?

Oh by the way, Wisdom is not someone who easily explains their reads, but it's always worth asking.

shortaru · Post Post #127 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:17 pm

In post 126, ThoseInCharge wrote:
In post 116, shortaru wrote:
In post 95, ThoseInCharge wrote:Hey Wisdom, tell me more about your Gamma townread?
Do you really expect that to happen?
Oh by the way, Wisdom is not someone who easily explains their reads, but it's always worth asking.

But how can you possibly think Gamma is scum?

He is transparently town. Painfully town. If I was a Doctor, I'd buy the house next door to save gas money.

Thor665 · Post Post #128 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:23 pm

In post 99, shortaru wrote:
In post 98, Thor665 wrote:I disagree with how you think sheeping works.
I disagree with your disagreement.

If you are sheeping TiC, you are acquiescing to their judgment. By asking others to sheep you when you are relying on TiC's judgment, you are asking others to also trust the judgment of TiC.

In effect, you are asking others to sheep TiC under the guise of sheeping you.

That's a bit convoluted for my taste.

I was going to ask about it, but then you explained it (and your lack of explaining your townread) later.
So your theory is that my post, as presented, asking others to sheep "me" which you then suggest is sheeping Ari, which I then *disagree* with is me secretly setting up my ability to argue what you're arguing later if Gamma flips town.

So why did I disagree with you immediately and *after* I disagreed and suggested the sheep of me would be sheeping me did you vote?
Wouldn't I have, by definition, already destroyed my chance to do what you're arguing is my scum plan there?

In post 100, Gamma Emerald wrote:I also feel like his Wisdom push is kinda scummy after digging into his thinking

What's scummy with that?
I thought it was fine.

In post 109, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:
In post 84, Thor665 wrote:People should sheep me.
I disagree with you, but am interested in hearing more about your scumread here.

As described in thread before you posted this - I find his activity levels more to an expected Gamma scum than a Gamma town.
That paired with a town read voting a slot I'm fine lynching made for an optimal sheep.
Make sense?

shortaru · Post Post #129 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:26 pm

In post 128, Thor665 wrote:So why did I disagree with you immediately and *after* I disagreed and suggested the sheep of me would be sheeping me did you vote?
Wouldn't I have, by definition, already destroyed my chance to do what you're arguing is my scum plan there?

Please rephrase, I don't speak scumese.

Thor665 · Post Post #130 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:27 pm

How was my scum plan to pass the buck to ari considering I openly declared that I considered sheeping me to not be sheeping Ari before you voted me and claimed that was my scum plan?

Thor665 · Post Post #131 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:28 pm

Like, if I had done what you're claiming, you literally could quote me saying I don't believe that's how sheeping works - thus if that's my plan I'm either a raging moron, or am convinced all town players in this game are.

shortaru · Post Post #132 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:30 pm

In post 128, Thor665 wrote:As described in thread before you posted this - I find his activity levels more to an expected Gamma scum than a Gamma town.

As said earlier, specifically,

In post 98, Thor665 wrote:I will generally agree I find you a bit more involved already than I would expect from you being town, but that might also be early game excitement.

Why can his involvement rate no longer be attributed to early game excitement?

shortaru · Post Post #133 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:32 pm

In post 131, Thor665 wrote:Like, if I had done what you're claiming, you literally could quote me saying I don't believe that's how sheeping works

In post 98, Thor665 wrote:I disagree with how you think sheeping works.

shortaru · Post Post #134 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:34 pm

In post 130, Thor665 wrote:How was my scum plan to pass the buck to ari considering I openly declared that I considered sheeping me to not be sheeping Ari before you voted me and claimed that was my scum plan?

I pointed out your plan with the express intent of stopping it.

Gamma isn't getting lynched on weak excuses.

shortaru · Post Post #135 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:49 pm

In post 129, shortaru wrote:
In post 128, Thor665 wrote:So why did I disagree with you immediately and *after* I disagreed and suggested the sheep of me would be sheeping me did you vote?
Wouldn't I have, by definition, already destroyed my chance to do what you're arguing is my scum plan there?
Please rephrase, I don't speak scumese.

In post 130, Thor665 wrote:How was my scum plan to pass the buck to ari considering I openly declared that I considered sheeping me to not be sheeping Ari before you voted me and claimed that was my scum plan?

In post 131, Thor665 wrote:Like, if I had done what you're claiming, you literally could quote me saying I don't believe that's how sheeping works - thus if that's my plan I'm either a raging moron, or am convinced all town players in this game are.

Let the record reflect I asked Thor to rephrase because I don't speak SCUMese - and he did.

LOL! I'm JK.

ThoseInCharge · Post Post #136 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:57 pm

Shotaru I'm more than willing to hear a towncase on Gamma. Just don't expect me to follow you if you just keep screaming it over and over with no explanation.

shortaru · Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:01 am

In post 136, ThoseInCharge wrote:Shotaru I'm more than willing to hear a towncase on Gamma. Just don't expect me to follow you if you just keep screaming it over and over with no explanation.

You want to talk cases?

In post 36, ThoseInCharge wrote:
In post 19, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: TGP
Stop voting my mason buddy
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Second RVS vote feels unnatural

-BNL

pedit: Oh lol ninja'd

That's not a case.

shortaru · Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:06 am

TiC, does it not concern you at all that Thor was willing to sheep that weaksauce, basically RVS vote on Gamma and try to build a wagon using a reason that he admitted could be attributed to early game excitement which he later tried to leave out of his previous explanation that I just caught him out on a few posts ago?

ThoseInCharge · Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:07 am

Thor btw it's been BNL here and not Ari.

I guess that's fair. But are you going to at least give some examples of why Gamma's town?

Pedit: It does actually. But I want to think a bit further.

shortaru · Post Post #140 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:19 am

In post 139, ThoseInCharge wrote:But are you going to at least give some examples of why Gamma's town?

Maybe not the example you are looking for, but I can point out a couple towny posts.

19 - I feel he would have been too self-conscious to make that mistake as scum. With access to the scum PT, he'd have known who he was replacing and I don't think he'd have voted his own slot knowingly.

96 - towny push, because he showed a thought process of what he believed a towny would have said in that scenario that he was scumreading me for (looking at the situation from both angles)

Carcalilly · Post Post #141 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:45 am

In post 75, shortaru wrote:
In post 74, Carcalilly wrote:there aren't any protective roles?
Really? Where is that stated?

It was my first thought hearing that the mafia has to kill every night, but that's probably a rule against the mafia faction choosing nokill ://

Carcalilly · Post Post #142 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:47 am

In post 86, shortaru wrote:
In post 83, ThoseInCharge wrote:Let's not have any unnecessary claims, please.
FWIW, I was fake-claiming in 49, anyway...

... or was I?

stop

Carcalilly · Post Post #143 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:48 am

In post 103, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:
In post 49, shortaru wrote:
In post 46, Carcalilly wrote:If it helps, Gamma, I'm vanilla. :3
I counterclaim.
Why did you feel the need to counterclaim?

Man, did the joke really fly that far over your head...?

Carcalilly · Post Post #144 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:50 am

Thor is town.
Haven't seen Gamma get this much attention in a while; but both wagons are equally as juicy and I need a votecount.

shortaru · Post Post #145 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:58 am

In post 144, Carcalilly wrote:Thor is town.
Haven't seen Gamma get this much attention in a while; but both wagons are equally as juicy and I need a votecount.

I think I'm L-2, if that piques your interest.

Carcalilly · Post Post #146 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:01 am

Are you actually vanilla tho

shortaru · Post Post #147 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:11 am

In post 146, Carcalilly wrote:Are you actually vanilla tho

Does it matter?

Carcalilly · Post Post #148 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:15 am

yeah I don't want to lynch you're if you're town bulletproof loyal doctor

shortaru · Post Post #149 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:16 am

In post 148, Carcalilly wrote:yeah I don't want to lynch you're if you're town bulletproof loyal doctor

Doesn't really matter what you want, you're already on my wagon.