Mini 2032: TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited [over]

[skitter30]

yeah i was kinda like ???? because i'm like the least likely person to do that in this game

[Shoshin]

@Skitter

From your perspective, Gamma should be confirmed town. So I don't understand why you keep doubting his alignment. If you're going to keep pushign the idea that Gamma could be scum, then please explain why scum Gamma would ever give food to Creature on the same night that he kills Creature.

It doesn't make any sense because gamma was under substantial pressure from Kokichi, among others, to prove himself town. If scum, Gamma faced the risk of being mislynched the following day phase, and in that situation, why would he add paranoia about his role to the mix? Like, why would scum Gamma intentionally increase the likelihood that he'd be mislynched? It makes no sense at all.

[skitter30]

VOTE: shoshin

[skitter30]

that doesn't conftown him

i agree that it doesn't make sense for him to give food to creature the night that he died
that doesn't make him conftown either

[Shoshin]

actually wait do we all think gamma is scum

can we lynch him?

Why would scum Gamma give food to Creature on the same night that he kills Creature? It doesn't make sense. Why would he intentionally increase the likelihood that he'd be mislynched?

[skitter30]

@shoshin i'm going to vote you if you don't fullclaim (role + gacha results + gold usage) or give me a very good reason why not

it's mylo, as a reminder

ok i'm apparently policying you in mylo, cool

[Shoshin]

You're getting caught up in the meaning of the word "confirmed," Skitter. In theory, nothing is ever 100% confirmed in mafia. The chance that Gamma flips town is something like 1%. The likelihood is so low that it's effectively town confirmation.

[Shoshin]

Stop being emotional, Skitter.

[skitter30]

i'm a little sketched out that with a vote on you in mylo you're arguing whether or not i should be treating gamma as conftown

[Shoshin]

If you won't agree with me that Gamma's effectively confirmed town, I have no intent to cooperate with you on any level. I'm especially bothered by the way you've been keeping him open as a potential mislynch.

[Shoshin]

I can't control your vote, Skitter. That's on you.

[Shoshin]

I've been supporting a no lynch from the start of this day phase.

[skitter30]

i disagree that he's confotwn

i think that giving food to someone scum!him was planning on killing was suboptimal
i don't think that fact inherently makes him town

[skitter30]

Stop being emotional, Skitter.

oh i'm not being emotinal rn
i'm giving you an ultimatum

[Shoshin]

Skitter, the play wasn't just suboptimal, it's strongly, blatantly, and obviously anti-scum. The question is, why would scum Gamma ever intentionally act in such an obvoiusly anti-scum way? Like, use your brain. Scum don't do what Gamma did. They just don't.

[skitter30]

I can't control your vote, Skitter. That's on you.

ok

it's mylo. if i were town and someone voted me in mylo i'd be trying to get them to unvote me cuz like i don't want to lose the game or be lynched

you're trying to get me to conftown gamma

you're saying that you're unwilling to cooperate with me if i don't conftown him
but you're being incredibly anti-town by not cooperating by refusing to claim in mylo, and refusing to explain why you wont' claim in mylo
and if you're town not doing either of those things rn is anti-town because you have a vote on you in mylo

[skitter30]

Skitter, the play wasn't just suboptimal, it's strongly, blatantly, and obviously anti-scum. The question is, why would scum Gamma ever intentionally act in such an obvoiusly anti-scum way? Like, use your brain. Scum don't do what Gamma did. They just don't.

i disagree that it's as anti-scum as you describe

i think it's more anti-scum for scum to no-kill last night as you were suggesting

[Shoshin]

I don't know what my role PM says exactly and I'm too lazy to go check that stuff. I really don't think it matters. I don't know the character I am and I don't care to check. I'm a 1-shot cop with an innocent on Gamma from N2. I used initial gacha role on Varsoon. I used roleblocker on NSG on N3. I used tracker on Gamma on N4 because I doubted my innocent result and wanted to see if he'd be caught visiting the nightkill again (after the Creature thing).

That's all.

[skitter30]

is anyone else sketched out by this?

[skitter30]

UNVOTE:

[Shoshin]

No killing last night isn't anti-scum. It's one of the obvious moves that scum could pull.

But let's assume scum killed last night. If they did, as you seem to believe, then you must be 100% convinced that Gamma is town and that I'm town. Which begs the question, why are you voting me? And why are you so against confirming Gamma as town? Why are you so insistent on keeping us open as mislynch options?

[Shoshin]

My god, Skitter. You're scum. I'm not going to read your games. The way you're playing this is clearly scum motivated. You're ignoring the clear evidence that Gamma's town, and you're ignoring the clear evidence that I'm town. And instead, you want to keep us open as mislynch options. You can hang. I'm done wasting my time discussing this game with you.

@Nos

NSG & Skitter are the scum. What do I need to do to convince you? Please review the reasons I've provided as to why Gamma is town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Does anyone else find skitter and nsg’s collusion disturbing

[skitter30]

I don't know what my role PM says exactly and I'm too lazy to go check that stuff. I really don't think it matters. I don't know the character I am and I don't care to check. I'm a 1-shot cop with an innocent on Gamma from N2. I used initial gacha role on Varsoon. I used roleblocker on NSG on N3. I used tracker on Gamma on N4 because I doubted my innocent result and wanted to see if he'd be caught visiting the nightkill again (after the Creature thing).

That's all.

a) i don't think i particularly believe 1s cop (if you really are i'd guess you'd be merle but eh)
b) why would you doubt a cop result ... ?
c) if this is true nsg didn't nk n3 (this is the night creature died i think) (also you didn't have rb you had jk)

i still dont' get why i had to like force this out of you

it would explain why you were tr'ing gamma that hard tho (but if you were tr'ing him that hard why would you use a tracker on him ...?)

[Shoshin]

What's disturbing is Skitter's attempts to keep you open as a mislynch when the evidence so strongly shows that you're town.