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Post Post #2500 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:46 pm

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In post 2498, skitter30 wrote:ok why were you most paranoid of him if you had an inno result on him? this is the part i'm not following
Because results alone are very weak evidence. How many times do I have to say this? In my first town game on this site, I was investigated guilty despite being town. I was mislynched.

I've seen countless games where investigative results were wrong. I don't trust them. Period.
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Post Post #2501 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:47 pm

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I do trust Varsoon saying he roleblocked NSG, no nightkill happening, and Gammagooey immediately killing him to prevent him from telling us who he roleblocked. That set of events is strongly indicative that NSG is scum.
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Post Post #2502 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:47 pm

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Like, that's night/day vs me getting an innocent result on someone that could be a godfather or lawyered or when I could have been redirected or bus drove whatever.
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Post Post #2503 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:49 pm

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In post 2498, skitter30 wrote:ok why were you most paranoid of him if you had an inno result on him? this is the part i'm not following
I was most paranoid of you & NSG, but I knew NSG wasn't committing the nightkill based on the roleblock, and I decided that clearing Gamma was more important that checking you because he was still under a lot of pressure to be lynched, especially after Koki's flip.
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Post Post #2504 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:49 pm

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i would never ever let a scumbuddy sacrifice themselves for me especially if it was something as not actually incriminating as a roleblock
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Post Post #2505 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:52 pm

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VOTE: no lynch

Gacha vote: myself
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Post Post #2506 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:53 pm

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In post 2500, Shoshin wrote:
In post 2498, skitter30 wrote:ok why were you most paranoid of him if you had an inno result on him? this is the part i'm not following
Because results alone are very weak evidence. How many times do I have to say this? In my first town game on this site, I was investigated guilty despite being town. I was mislynched.

I've seen countless games where investigative results were wrong. I don't trust them. Period.
In post 2501, Shoshin wrote:I do trust Varsoon saying he roleblocked NSG, no nightkill happening, and Gammagooey immediately killing him to prevent him from telling us who he roleblocked. That set of events is strongly indicative that NSG is scum.
In post 2502, Shoshin wrote:Like, that's night/day vs me getting an innocent result on someone that could be a godfather or lawyered or when I could have been redirected or bus drove whatever.
ok this is what i was looking for

i don't think shoshin is scum rn
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Post Post #2507 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:56 pm

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In post 2499, Shoshin wrote:
In post 2496, skitter30 wrote:i can believe that you strongly believed that
i don't understand why you tracked him the next night then
Gamma's alignment doesn't turn on why I tracked him. You need to read Gamma on his own terms. I'm giving you the exact reasons why Gamma is town. You seem unable to accept the strong probabilistic evidence. Why?
because i don't process teh game the same way you do

i think that giving creature the fruit the night he died is townie
i don't think it makes him 99% town and i def don't conftown him over it

i also think an inno is a very valuable piece of evidence
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Post Post #2508 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:49 pm

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Have we had a VT claim at all this game? Or was the neap a pure bust
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Post Post #2509 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:52 pm

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Beyond alignment, I can see why Shoshin think her argument is persuasive and why skitter doesn’t
Shoshin has two forms of info on me plus an action that doesn’t fit how scum would act
But since Skitter doesn’t know any of the innoes are true, the only thing there is the creature target, which I can understand someone being leery of.
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Post Post #2510 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:06 pm

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i kinda think gamma + shoshin + nsg are town and i'm a little lost rn
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Post Post #2511 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:28 pm

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Why is NSG town?
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Post Post #2512 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:37 pm

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nuance of thought in real-time (it's lke way different from her last few scumgames)

although as i typed htis i realize i need to check that altgame at some point
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Post Post #2513 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:38 pm

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In post 2512, skitter30 wrote:nuance of thought in real-time (it's lke way different from her last few scumgames)

although as i typed htis i realize i need to check that altgame at some point
What altgame
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Post Post #2514 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:39 pm

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i don't think she wants me to say
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Post Post #2515 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:39 pm

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Okay
Thought I might have something to say because it felt familiar
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Post Post #2516 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:49 pm

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oh i just remembered that both my games iwth scum!nsg were on that alt; i need to check both of them

(she was also scum in presidents but repped out fairly soon so)
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Post Post #2517 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:52 pm

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I could alt hunt you with that
Not in the mood though
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Post Post #2518 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:55 pm

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yeah idk how much i can talk about alt!nsg
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Post Post #2519 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:56 pm

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but the lack of nuance is kinda apparent in the isos she linked a few pages back
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Post Post #2520 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:58 pm

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Could you state what you specifically think is nuanced?
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Post Post #2521 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:07 pm

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In post 2347, northsidegal wrote:it's not like anything was really sacrificed from that sequence of events. a fruit vend is pretty useless and unless they were concerned about some remaining investigative or something then using what they have in a series of events designed such that the complicated nature of things makes it look like they're not partnered is just the smart thing to do.
In post 2353, northsidegal wrote:i mean i think this whole time we've also been assuming that shoshin has been telling the truth about having switcheroo but if shoshin and gamma are both scum that isn't even necessarily true, is it?
In post 2360, northsidegal wrote:also honestly i think shoshin's most recent play (maybe even her play ever since around day 2 / 3) makes sense in the context of having some kind of strategy where even if you're scummy you still win - if i had that strategy then i would probably not really put in all that much effort because you just wouldn't even really need to. it might even be better to
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In post 2395, northsidegal wrote:also looking back there's the fact that shoshin's vote was the one that allowed him to self hammer rather than letting everyone agree on who would vote and get the gold
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Post Post #2522 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:07 pm

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nsg why am i town?
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Post Post #2523 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:13 pm

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Idk what you mean by nuance then
None of those posts felt too good to me
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Post Post #2524 (ISO) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:14 pm

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ok why not?
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