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[BBmolla]

Why do you think Thor is scum?

Read the game. I haven't been shy about it.

I ignore your posts sum it up for me

[BBmolla]

It looks like you guys are in a dumb distracting logic fight which is Thor as either alignment

[RadiantCowbells]

if only there was a glorious wagon on scum TIC that you could instead jump on

[shortaru]

Why do you think Thor is scum?

Read the game. I haven't been shy about it.

I ignore your posts sum it up for me

Well if you ignore my posts, summing it up would simply be a waste of time anyway.

[shortaru]

It looks like you guys are in a dumb distracting logic fight which is Thor as either alignment

Wrong.

I've already linked to 138 which shows a decent amount of scum equity for Thor. Not going to bother recapping it again

[Thor665]

I don’t know any specific examples but I think I vaguely remember ver some instance of the passing the buck thing

So...not really any example of why you think this is a thing then?
I again submit - it doesn't happen.
I can get Shortaru thinking it's a thing, because a few seconds looking at his play, yeah. Why do you think it's a thing?

re: meta Scumread, I’d say your meta was right if you had played with me recently, but our last game together was Newbie 1836, which was before my meta shift, so your evidence is wrong despite having a valid thought process. I don’t recall rolling scum in a game with you in it even.

So my meta is correct but only if I'm up to date on you and because you can't recall any games we've played recently (and apparently have decided I never read other games) then you're going to question my call on this correct meta and even back Sortaru on his really clumsy and (as far as I can tell) misreading what I'm saying attack on the meta as though he had a valid point.
I don't follow this from a town perspective - walk me through it?

@Thor: Why is ThoseInCharge your #1 town read?

He isn't. Shortaru is.
However, Shortaru is not worth sheeping I feel.

Gamma Emerald

People should sheep me.

Is it serious?

If a case is serious, unless you're a bad player, you should admit it's serious.
If a case isn't serious, unless you're a bad player, you should admit it's serious.
I'm serious

That all said - look at my comments to Gamma in this post and just ask yourself what he's up to exactly.
Also, note all of Gamma's really soft wagon encouragement without actually advancing anything.

I think Wis, Creature, BB, Gamma, and Shortaru are town.

Why Gamma?

yeah I'd like to see rc vs thor tbh

I'm not sure either of us should claim functional ability to read the other.
Are you just hoping we do, or do you just want to watch the walls?
Why aren't you trying to engage either of us if you want to see a dustup for analysis?

Why do you think Thor is scum?

Read the game. I haven't been shy about it.

Actually you have.
I openly agreed I did what you're saying I did and asked why it was scummy and you haven't responded.
If your case has meat you should be able to describe it and not duck it twice.

[shortaru]

Actually you have.
I openly agreed I did what you're saying I did and asked why it was scummy and you haven't responded.
If your case has meat you should be able to describe it and not duck it twice.

I've read your advice to scum.

I don't need to engage you. You aren't the one I need to convince.

[Wisdom]

I think youre both hard to read and you fighting each other would be easier than me bothering

[Thor665]

Agreed - aren't you trying to convince BBmolla?
Also, why is it so scary to simply explain why what you're pushing is scummy?
I suggest there's a reason people didn't sheep you - it's because your case is more empty than you think. The only person who really got excited about it was Gamma, and in a room of otherwise experienced scumhunters why was that the only one who got interested? Think about that for a minute.

[shortaru]

I didn't mean anything untoward by that, btw. Sorry if it came across as hostile.

[Thor665]

I think youre both hard to read and you fighting each other would be easier than me bothering

Both RC and I can get emotional and wall (and bog down) threads as either alignment.
This doesn't sound inherently pro-town to encourage.
Do you have a good ability to read either/both of us when we logic wall?
Why not read my Shortaru logic wall?
Why does it need to be us two specifically?

[Thor665]

I didn't mean anything untoward by that, btw. Sorry if it came across as hostile.

Pretty much as long as you're not calling me names I'm not offended.

[RadiantCowbells]

be quiet fork

[Thor665]

In your face, spoon.

[shortaru]

Agreed - aren't you trying to convince BBmolla?

Not especially, no.

He's made it clear that he's not interested in anything I have to say.

[shortaru]

TiC also ghosted my 123.

More reason to want Thor dead when/if TiC flips red.

[Fuwa Fuwa Time]

Why Gamma?

I feel he would have been too self-conscious to make that mistake as scum. With access to the scum PT, he'd have known who he was replacing and I don't think he'd have voted his own slot knowingly.

This is basically the gist of why I disagreed with the Gamma wagon.

I also generally like his posting after like, page 3.

That all said - look at my comments to Gamma in this post and just ask yourself what he's up to exactly.
Also, note all of Gamma's really soft wagon encouragement without actually advancing anything.

No idea, what do you think he's up to?

What soft encouragement are you referring to exactly? If it's his posting starting with 150 (which would be Thor and Ari wagons?), I generally get the feeling that he doesn't feel that great about his Shortaru vote anymore and he's looking for a new one. Maybe you'd just prefer him to take a hard stance somewhere and vote, but I don't really think him not doing so is particularly scummy at this point in time. His rebuttal to you about his activity isn't amazing, but I don't think it's scummy. Your argument is literally predicated on him being

too

active, which is something I find a little bizarre (unless you thought he was inflating his postcount or something, which I don't really feel like is the case here).

[Carcalilly]

leave carca alone

she's under MY protection

im gonna fuck you all up if you even think about it motherfuckers

<33

[Carcalilly]

Can we let Gamma respond to all this lol

[Carcalilly]

RC you're actually scaring me about how well you can read me ._.

[Flubbernugget]

Ari of TiC was supposed to have solid reads on like page 5 and we still haven't seen them

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m behind but shorteru seems like a solid fucking policy lynch

Naahh. Unfortunately BBMolla just seems to have a habit of making shit pushes as town

[Gamma Emerald]

carca's vaguely town to me

Sheep this

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t know any specific examples but I think I vaguely remember ver some instance of the passing the buck thing

So...not really any example of why you think this is a thing then?
I again submit - it doesn't happen.
I can get Shortaru thinking it's a thing, because a few seconds looking at his play, yeah. Why do you think it's a thing?

re: meta Scumread, I’d say your meta was right if you had played with me recently, but our last game together was Newbie 1836, which was before my meta shift, so your evidence is wrong despite having a valid thought process. I don’t recall rolling scum in a game with you in it even.

So my meta is correct but only if I'm up to date on you and because you can't recall any games we've played recently (and apparently have decided I never read other games) then you're going to question my call on this correct meta and even back Sortaru on his really clumsy and (as far as I can tell) misreading what I'm saying attack on the meta as though he had a valid point.
I don't follow this from a town perspective - walk me through it?

I felt like it could be a thing because it made sense as a possible intent.

If you were currrent with me, I wouldn’t question your meta on me since it is right. But since you’re not, I perceive that you are making a faulty argument. I don’t trust you using outdated yet incorrect meta to form a scumread on me, even if it is correct meta nowadays.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can we let Gamma respond to all this lol

Boi this is nothing