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VOTE COUNT 1.8

DrDolittle (4)

- Nako, DVa, Gamma Emerald, Tchill13

BrightEyedFish (3)

- Radja, Joey_, PenguinPower

PenguinPower (1)

- Almost50

Sephiroth (1)

- Kokichi Oma,

OkapOka (1)

- Sephiroth

Nako (1)

- DrDolittle

Almost50 (1)

- BrightEyedFish

Kokichi Oma (1)

- OkaPoka

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-11-12 11:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Sephiroth is v/la until Tuesday

[Tchill13]

VOTE: kokichi

[Nako]

^UNLESS either is an alt, but I don't think they are.

Everyone is an alt.

Not me. I think alts are for people who can't evolve their game lol. I'd actually like to have the same name and avi on every mafia site.

I'll never have an alt though.

That sounds really boring.

[DVa]

Nako what do you think of A50 atm?

[Tchill13]

^UNLESS either is an alt, but I don't think they are.

Everyone is an alt.

Not me. I think alts are for people who can't evolve their game lol. I'd actually like to have the same name and avi on every mafia site.

I'll never have an alt though.

That sounds really boring.

I think alts for different personality is fun. I just don't have any reason to do that personally.

[Nako]

Nako what do you think of A50 atm?

I don't know if I can sort him this early, but I definitely want him alive.

[DVa]

I have some mixed feelings about BearAvi being lynched today, but I can't decide if there's a better wagon out of Cloud'sDaddy, PenguinGifs, Tyrion, and Neegan.

[Nako]

I have some mixed feelings about BearAvi being lynched today, but I can't decide if there's a better wagon out of Cloud'sDaddy, PenguinGifs, Tyrion, and Neegan.

Who is Cloud'sDaddy?

[DVa]

Sephiroth of course

Oh wait is that spoilers?

[Nako]

IDK where is that from.

VOTE: Radja

[Tchill13]

I'm fine with lynching kokichi or DDL today.

[DVa]

Not spoilers if you don't know the franchise I guess

VOTE: Neegan

[DVa]

I'm fine with lynching kokichi or DDL today.

are you townreading Neegan?

[Almost50]

@Almost50 who here have you played with?

All but Nako and Dolittle.

Hem. Who has seen you as town and in what games?

Come on, Gamma. You don't really want me to go through all my games to see who was in which!

Well, you were there when I was Town and PP got lynched as Town on D1 in Diffusion of Powers. Oka was with me in 2 games, but I only remember the one with the Cannibals flavour. Tchill in several games, including one as JJD. Hmm.. As A50 I think he was in the game where everyone was a Dayvig. Radja also in a couple of games.. I think he was in the Team Mafia one with me?? Seph has been with me in the last game I played as AP (and yes he knows it's me now). BEF also (same game as Seph). Joey has been with me in numerous games, including Civilization (which you were also in). Kokichi in 3-4 games, but I can recall the one with Wisdon & N_M where Alisae was scum with Jeanne, and one that immediately followed that where we were Neighbours, and Mastina, Chara, LLD and Toranaga were all in the game. Finally, DVa is an alt and doesn't wish to out.

[OkaPoka]

hi im sick here are some basic thoughts cuz im too tired to go deep:

@bes its not lack of scumreads its lack of will do to anything to develop scumreads or push existing one that is my problem with kokichi

almost50 is playing more like town ap than scum ap

i dont see how anyone can read kokichi as town rn

i also dont see how nako is so sure about townread gamma

i dont see why tchill is going after drdolittle if he is doing the ok with mislynch thing when kokichi and gamma exist

gamma thinking mutual townreads is a good idea shouldn't exist esp after we just played a double day unlimited game where mutual townreads ended up being very bad

people need to clarify their ideas more

There isn't much clarity in your post. Just statements. Show some evidence please.

1) Look at kokichi's iso. Only stance he has taken is joey = town. No reasoning. Mostly fluff.

2) Okay so sample size = 2 so take that for what you will, but having played one game with town!Ap and one game with scum!Ap (a50 alts), I can say that town AP is a lot more gamesolvey? In the Donner Party game (town A50), AP made a lot of posts about trying to crack the game and optimal plays and such. I scumread him for it but the intent to find out how to win was there. Meanwhile in PYP (scum AP) he was kinda just troll-y and didn't do much. He did hammer scum randomly and did some talking early, but then quickly devolved into fluffposting.

3) Kokichi is making fluff posts, nothing is coming from a townie mindset to try and win, thus I don't see how you can tr that playstyle.

4) Gamma posting can be done by scum, imo locking in town before flips is kinda sketch because saying things is a lot easier than actually doing things. Nako's iso on gamma has no posts in which only town makes that post and scum doesn't.

5) DrDolittle is a lot more vocal about how he sees the game from his iso than gamma or kokichi. Thus less of a liability to work with in town.

6) In DDU, me, katyusha, cheeky (i was scum, katy town, cheeky town) formed a semi town bloc. Cheeky kinda had doubts towards the end of d1, but then nk. Then basically me and katy kinda just decided the lynches for the entire game until lylo cuz we had strong townreads on each other and then by the time lylo came, we had basically me, katy, not_mafia, saudade, and kmd. Not_mafia is a lylo liability and was town so yeah. Mutual townreads made it so katy never reconsidered her townread until it was too late. Blocs are dangerous.

anything else need clarity?

[Gamma Emerald]

Sephiroth of course

Oh wait is that spoilers?

I thought it was just a joke like “he’s Cloud’s daddy “

[Gamma Emerald]

@Almost50 who here have you played with?

All but Nako and Dolittle.

Hem. Who has seen you as town and in what games?

Come on, Gamma. You don't really want me to go through all my games to see who was in which!

Well, you were there when I was Town and PP got lynched as Town on D1 in Diffusion of Powers. Oka was with me in 2 games, but I only remember the one with the Cannibals flavour. Tchill in several games, including one as JJD. Hmm.. As A50 I think he was in the game where everyone was a Dayvig. Radja also in a couple of games.. I think he was in the Team Mafia one with me?? Seph has been with me in the last game I played as AP (and yes he knows it's me now). BEF also (same game as Seph). Joey has been with me in numerous games, including Civilization (which you were also in). Kokichi in 3-4 games, but I can recall the one with Wisdon & N_M where Alisae was scum with Jeanne, and one that immediately followed that where we were Neighbours, and Mastina, Chara, LLD and Toranaga were all in the game. Finally, DVa is an alt and doesn't wish to out.

Well shit. Was thinking someone on the scumteam had knowledge of your Town game and was concerned about it, but that says nothing I guess

[DVa]

I thought it was just a joke like “he’s Cloud’s daddy “

yes, let's go with this

[OkaPoka]

@joey can you link me some kokichi town games where he does this fluffposting early ?

[OkaPoka]

Gamma why are you voting DDL and why aren't you voting kokichi?

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma why are you voting DDL and why aren't you voting kokichi?

DDL is a scumlean
Kokichi I don’t really have an opinion on

[OkaPoka]

why is ddl a scumlean?

if you had been in DDU the entire game, would you have lynched saudade or not_mafia earlier? Don't you think that town odds would have significantly increased had either of those two been lynched day 1?

[Gamma Emerald]

why is ddl a scumlean?

if you had been in DDU the entire game, would you have lynched saudade or not_mafia earlier? Don't you think that town odds would have significantly increased had either of those two been lynched day 1?

I feel like DDL’s current contributions feel lacking from what I know of them, plus I think their voting plus wagon environment combined with my reads implicated them a little

As for DDU I prolly would have lynched NM earlier, not sure on Saudade cos I was somewhat pocketed by him. As for impact there probably would have been a greater level of meaningful interaction in lylo had one of those been Lynched over the others.

[Almost50]

Well shit. Was thinking someone on the scumteam had knowledge of your Town game and was concerned about it, but that says nothing I guess

OIC. Radja, Tchill, DVa & Joey may or may not.

[Almost50]

Erm.. add Dolittle if you must, but don't ask for an explanation.