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[OkaPoka]

I have him lean town but I certainly don't see how kokichi is readable at all.

[Kokichi Oma]

That's the point of the game, to be unreadable. That's how you become good as town and scum

[PenguinPower]

His main stance is that he has been volunteering to be the recipient of night actions

when does scum do that?

Seriously? I've seen it plenty depending on scum's role.

Here. While he didn't invite the investigation, he was able to use it to further his win.

That's not a good reason to put someone in "likely town."

[DrDolittle]

usually good unreadable means hes so good at scum that even when he is so town, we still have doubts he might be scum.

it is not hes so bad at town that even when he is so scum, we still have doubts he might be town

[DVa]

yeah but does his play in that game look even remotely like his play this game penguin? like here he is exclusively lynch/night action bait; in that game he looks a lot more proactive and more tonally enthusiastic

at a glance I'd say he likes playing scum more and he seems kinda bored here

[PenguinPower]

It's still early D1 so I'm not going to make a comparison at this point. I don't believe you read his entire play in that game either, so your comment is a bit premature.

@mod: V/LA until 12:00pm CST on 11/4

[OkaPoka]

Proactive? He's making pointless conversation and not delving deeper. Maybe he has one or two posts that do things but the others don't do anything. Why is drawing night actions a good thing?

[DVa]

Null without prior meta at best.

what did you mean with this btw? it seems like you have played together before

[Kokichi Oma]

usually good unreadable means hes so good at scum that even when he is so town, we still have doubts he might be scum.

it is not hes so bad at town that even when he is so scum, we still have doubts he might be town

Being bad at town is subjective. It's not my job to worry about being towny, it's my job to find scum.

[PenguinPower]

Null without prior meta at best.

what did you mean with this btw? it seems like you have played together before

Thanks for reading:

Kokichi is probably scum right now. It’s a good way for me to start my reads.

Starting out wrong is a good thing?

Have I ever played a game with you where you ended up being town?

[OkaPoka]

Have you found scum yet kokichi?

[DVa]

Proactive? He's making pointless conversation and not delving deeper. Maybe he has one or two posts that do things but the others don't do anything. Why is drawing night actions a good thing?

he spends the first 20ish posts of his iso commenting on whether people have contributed and directly responding to how he feels about people's posts while pushing a wagon... that is not similar to his play here. you can say he only has surface level play, but you would need to show him having non-surface level play as town to argue he is scum here, because his scum game *based on penguins example* looks different than his play in this game

[DVa]

@Penguin so you're saying you have no meta because you have only seen him play scum? So why not look at one of his games, refrain from looking at his flip before you read his iso, then see if you can guess correctly

[OkaPoka]

Proactive? He's making pointless conversation and not delving deeper. Maybe he has one or two posts that do things but the others don't do anything. Why is drawing night actions a good thing?

he spends the first 20ish posts of his iso commenting on whether people have contributed and directly responding to how he feels about people's posts while pushing a wagon... that is not similar to his play here. you can say he only has surface level play, but you would need to show him having non-surface level play as town to argue he is scum here, because his scum game *based on penguins example* looks different than his play in this game

link me some quotes

[PenguinPower]

My example was a game directly related to your comment on inviting the investigation...wow.

p-edit

I'm not sure what that would help? Help me understand your point.

[DVa]

You can't directly quote a locked game, but iso 2-5, 7-17, and 19-24 all looks like a lot more engagement than what we've seen here and is tonally night and day

[DVa]

like, tbh, this guy looks easy af to read. if he isn't trying he's town, if he's pushy and aggressive he's scum. prove me wrong

[PenguinPower]

You can't directly quote a locked game, but iso 2-5, 7-17, and 19-24 all looks like a lot more engagement than what we've seen here and is tonally night and day

You can't? I mean, before I actually do I want to make sure that no one else can. Because I can.

[OkaPoka]

that's a really shitty way to create a meta

and he's def going to get lynched at lylo

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=76496

trolly as scum + kokichi game

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anyways meta shouldn't be an excuse for bad play

[PenguinPower]

like, tbh, this guy looks easy af to read. if he isn't trying he's town, if he's pushy and aggressive he's scum. prove me wrong

I'm not going to prove you wrong because the guy has won games he should have lost as scum. And you picking and choosing quotes post game and saying "Oh, see, easy read" is dumb.

He's not a D1 lynch - which is why I've moved on - but your stance on him is asinine.

[Kokichi Oma]

I mean, I can show you games of me being passive as scum, and aggressive as town.

[DVa]

You can't? I mean, before I actually do I want to make sure that no one else can. Because I can.

I cannot click the quote button and copy/paste that; it redirects me to a message saying the thread is locked. I could copy paste the plaintext but it would lose all formatting.

[DVa]

I mean, I can show you games of me being passive as scum, and aggressive as town.

Please do

[Kokichi Oma]

and he's def going to get lynched at lylo

very doubtful

[Kokichi Oma]

I mean, I can show you games of me being passive as scum, and aggressive as town.

Please do

No, I want you to keep townreading me. It's easier to pocket you that way.